--- Log opened Sun Oct 29 20:40:47 2006
20:43 < kry> ciao
20:43 < Tubia87> ciao kry
20:44 <@Tubia87> ma è un channel nato or ora?
20:44 <@Tubia87> kry potevi aprire anche un altra finestra in xchat
20:44 <@Tubia87> :p
20:46 < luna_> hola
20:47 < luna_> salvador guerrilla hymn
20:52 <@kry> the audio from the radio is not so good
20:52 <@lupa_> university rector is talking
20:52 <@kry> ok
20:53 <@luna_> sorry had a call
20:53 <@luna_> !back
20:53 <@luna_> we salute your compromise with peace, democracy and the state of eaxaca
20:53 <@yuri> !i couldn't hear what he said.
20:53 <@luna_> he has just gven a statement on his position 
20:54 <@luna_> if and when the police move in
20:54 <@luna_> there is one person injured
20:54 <@luna_> please
20:54 <@luna_> they are in hacienda blanca
20:54 <@lupa_> injured by 50 polices
20:54 <@luna_> pfp enrtering via san jacinto
20:55 <@luna_> there are agent provocateurs
20:55 <@luna_> they ask for the barricades to let them thru
20:55 <@luna_> the beat him
20:55 <@luna_> kicked him
20:55 <@luna_> and used batond
20:55 <@luna_> batons
20:56 <@luna_> saying that the man was walking and people threw stones
20:56 <@luna_> which provocked the cops beating him
20:56 <@luna_> pfp who where advancing thu river
20:56 <@luna_> where stopped by lorries overturned
20:57 <@luna_> and are now throwing stones at people
20:57 <@luna_> because they can get thru
20:57 <@luna_> violence and water, gas
20:57 <@luna_> somewhere
20:57 <@luna_> fortaleza
20:57 <@yuri> !the pfp is throwing stones at people?
20:58 <@luna_> ferrocarril going to banamiel
20:58 <@luna_> asking people if water canon is just water or has acid
20:58 < mexicatl_> !the pfp did the same thing to us in cancun
20:58 <@luna_> just water
20:58 <@luna_> !yes police are throwing stones
20:58 <@luna_> police are advancing by the river side
20:58 <@luna_> in some points cops have broken off in smaller groups 
20:59 <@luna_> advancing towards zocalo
20:59 <@lupa_> (rivera del altoyas A6 (in the last map) ) 
20:59 <@luna_> thet are asking people to be careful, resist and peaceful
20:59 <@luna_> if police get thru
20:59 <@luna_> thay must be sorrounded
20:59 <@luna_> and prevented from moving
20:59 <@luna_> do this peacefully
21:00 < leo> what is the email of the radio?
21:00 < leo> what is the email of the radio?
21:00 <@luna_> they might invade our city but never our hearts
21:00 <@Tubia87> leo do not spam here ask in #indymedia
21:00 <@luna_> the demos is moving towards the university
21:01 <@luna_> if police take posession of zocalo
21:01 <@luna_> encircle them there
21:01 <@luna_> caller:
21:01 <@luna_> reamain calmed
21:01 <@luna_> people are angry that compa got beaten
21:01 <@luna_> and started to throw stones at cops
21:01 <@luna_> dont take rocks or sticks
21:02 <@luna_> or hell will break thru
21:02 <@luna_> break loose
21:02 <@luna_> stay calmed
21:02 <@luna_> !!! they are sure they are resisting effectivly with peacefull tacktics
21:02 <@luna_> talking to the demo
21:03 <@luna_> listening
21:03 <@yuri> ! that's true. spirit of gandhi!
21:03 <@luna_> you need to come to building that hosts the radio 
21:03 <@luna_> the strategy is to encircle the police
21:03 <@luna_> and then go to the university
21:03 <@lupa_> ("El llano" D3 in the map)
21:03 <@luna_> that is what the demo is going to do
21:04 <@luna_> encircle cops in zocalo
21:04 <@luna_> then keep people there and the rest move to university
21:05 <@yuri> !what's demo?!
21:05 <@luna_> people in barricades that look like are not useful anymore, leave them 
21:05 <@luna_> demonstration
21:05 <@luna_> manifestation
21:05 <@luna_> dem/mani
21:06 <@luna_> !there is a large demonstration going on in the city at the same time as the police is moving in / or is already in control of some areas /or is trying to break in thru other places
21:07 <@luna_> ! the mass demo is "dropping" people in strategic places
21:07 <@luna_> !! as they go
21:07 <@luna_> march is in el llano
21:07 <@luna_> soon will get to zocalo
21:07 <@luna_> the to university
21:07 <@luna_> there are 3 hellicopters
21:07 <@luna_> over the city
21:07 <@luna_> one of them has snipers
21:08 <@luna_> and is the one that is flying really low
21:08 <@luna_> police will balackavas
21:08 <@luna_> armed are breaking into houses
21:08 <@luna_> 3 detain in simbolos patrios
21:08 <@luna_> calling the lawyers to get on the case
21:09 <@luna_> ok
21:09 <@luna_> ! that was repots that cops in balaclavas are breaking into houses and registering
21:09 <@luna_> "registering"
21:09 <@steev> registering?
21:09 <@luna_> dressed in grey in the aleman neighbourhood
21:09 <@luna_> alert
21:09 <@luna_> !going thru everything
21:10 <@luna_> four arrested
21:10 <@luna_> mario pineda de jesus
21:10 <@luna_> !! this para cerezo
21:10 <@luna_> 1st of december
21:10 <@luna_> we are not going to allow this
21:10 <@luna_> we call for popular insurrection
21:11 <@luna_> peacefull popular insurrection nation wide
21:11 <@luna_> we know that the elections where rigged
21:11 <@luna_> so we are not going to allow the country to fall in the hands of calderon
21:12 <@luna_> fox/calderon police is in our city, arrenting our people and errupting in our houses
21:12 <@luna_> dressed in grey covering their faces with hoods
21:12 <@luna_> call for people not to go to the demo drunk
21:13 <@luna_> 2 navi panther hellicopters are flying over the city
21:13 <@luna_> we'd like to ask the army
21:13 <@luna_> who are you supposed to protect?
21:13 <@luna_> your people
21:13 <@luna_> !your people
21:13 <@luna_> everyone go to zocalo
21:13 <@luna_> everyone to zocalo
21:14 <@luna_> this is where we will have the biggest resistance confrontation
21:14 <@luna_> then come to university comples
21:14 <@luna_> complex
21:14 <@luna_> compa?eros
21:14 <@luna_> this is nothing new
21:14 <@luna_> we knew that at the end they'd use the army
21:15 <@luna_> cuz they know thay are wrong
21:15 <@luna_> we will resist till the end
21:15 <@luna_> power is trying to break the oices that demand freedom and want to break all yokes
21:15 <@luna_> we must use intelligence
21:16 <@luna_> and go zoc and uni
21:16 <@luna_> we knwo they will not hold it for long
21:16 <@luna_> we will resist and recover our zocalo
21:16 <@luna_> we will resist the attack of ulises r and calderon
21:16 <@luna_> love park
21:16 <@luna_> gas
21:16 <@luna_> thrown
21:17 <@luna_> and are tryng to advance from there too
21:17 <@luna_> two main points 
21:17 <@luna_> part of the demo must go surround, peacefully the police in zocalo
21:17 <@luna_> the other must come to the university
21:17 <@luna_> everyone, once the police is in zocalo
21:18 <@luna_> people holding barricades in the ourskirts
21:18 <@luna_> please consider whether you ought to leave it and move to zoca and univ
21:18 <@luna_> think about it
21:18 <@luna_> to everyone
21:18 <@luna_> we just heard
21:18 <@luna_>  that the gruas
21:19 <@luna_> we must break those machine
21:19 <@luna_> machiens
21:19 <@luna_> machines
21:19 <@luna_>  those machines have a lid to one side
21:19 <@luna_> if you dare
21:19 <@luna_> open that lid 
21:20 <@luna_> and throw some sand or sugar inside it
21:20 <@luna_> we must resist
21:20 <@luna_> these are the machines that are being used to remove our barricades
21:20 <@luna_> a call out to international press
21:20 <@luna_> the pfp came in thru 20 of november stret
21:21 <@luna_> NOT busatamante
21:21 <@luna_> !! he might be talkingt to you lupa
21:21 <@luna_> house by house
21:21 <@luna_> have vineger and watert at hand
21:22 <@luna_> mustard gass wil burn your skin
21:22 <@luna_> cover your skin
21:22 <@luna_> have vinegar, milk, flour and.... a brand name from hell
21:22 <@luna_> my husband was arested
21:23 <@luna_> and i want to know what is ging to happen to him
21:23 <@changsing> !! coke (ops)
21:23 <@luna_> how was he arrested
21:23 <@luna_> !bastard!
21:23 <@luna_> we have no esperience about defending ourselves
21:23 <@luna_> and got in an alley and someone started to shout
21:23 <@luna_> then the police took us...
21:24 <@luna_> !!! that was a shit trans
21:25 <@luna_> can someone take over?
21:25 <@luna_> !!can someone take over?
21:25 <@luna_> !!can someone take over?
21:25 <@luna_> !!can someone take over?
21:25 <@luna_> !!!!this
21:26 <@yuri> the translation?
21:26 < faradAW> Hi! Anyone have logged the transcript posted in #radioappo?
21:29 <@sub> they simply insist on being non violent
21:30 <@sub> they talk about the coming in the street in nostro signore
21:30 <@sub> of suspect people
21:30 <@sub> that nobody saw on the barricades
21:30 <@sub> they ask to identify and avoid those guys
21:31 <@sub> damn
21:31 <@sub> my stream is skipping
21:32 <@yuri> its back.
21:32 <@gus> back
21:32 <@sub> do non provoke the police
21:33 <@lupa_> (possible demostration way: http://lupa.homelinux.com/marcha_aprox.gif )
21:33 <@sub> when they will be inside
21:33 <@sub> the people will surround them
21:35 <@sub> they insist on saying that there are people on the name of the ppopular assembly
21:35 <@sub> that could provoke the police to allow the police to react violently
21:36 <@luna_> cerezo	la marcha lleg al zocalo
21:36 <@luna_> 	cerezo	la pfp se retiro a la plaza de la danza
21:36 <@luna_> the march reached zocalo
21:36 <@luna_> police leave to plaza de la danza
21:37 <@luna_>  http://lupa.homelinux.com/marcha_aprox.gif 
21:37 < Paique> hola
21:37 <@sub> invite to all the people next to the police
21:37 <@sub> to give updates
21:37 < Paique> yo soy de indymedia brasil
21:37 <@yuri> paíque, aqui é só tradução
21:37 <@sub> 2 civilian that were demonstrating
21:37 <@sub> were taken
21:40 <@sub> i can't understand
21:40 <@lupa_> there is someone talking from de mani
21:40 <@luna_> demo moves to the university?
21:40 <@luna_> radio askes
21:40 <@lupa_> its difficult to hear
21:40 <@sub> there are people next to the radio
21:41 <@luna_> are you coming here?
21:41 <@sub> that are coming from the march
21:41 <@luna_> we are many
21:41 <@luna_> we look everywhere
21:41 <@luna_> people are wired up
21:41 <@luna_> in zocalo
21:41 <@luna_> there are people everywhere
21:41 <@luna_> we are going you way
21:41 <@luna_> this is the answer of th epople 
21:41 <@luna_> against the state
21:42 <@luna_> well done to old the grannies and gran parents
21:42 <@sub> ....retoric.....
21:42 <@sub> ups
21:42 <@luna_> for talking the streets with their placards
21:42 <@luna_> in peace
21:42 <@luna_> and joining
21:42 <@luna_> police shooting gas
21:42 <@luna_> in parque de amor
21:42 <@sub> tear gas in park de lo amor
21:43 <@luna_> police are breaking in the houses
21:43 <@sub> ok luna i switch to another channel
21:43 <@luna_> no doubt leaving weapons inside
21:43 <@luna_> wo accuse...
21:43 <@luna_> we have a call from the square
21:43 <@luna_> !can undersn
21:43 <@luna_> gas
21:43 <@luna_> tear gas
21:43 <@luna_> the police 
21:43 <@luna_> violence
21:43 <@luna_> ! it is the same caller than before
21:44 <@luna_> coughing
21:44 <@luna_> !! she was so high a minute ago. killers
21:44 <@luna_> radio
21:44 <@luna_> retrieve
21:44 <@luna_> that is the tacktic
21:44 <@luna_> lets not have phisical contact
21:44 <@luna_> andkeep a wider circle around them
21:45 <@luna_> keep encircled
21:45 <@luna_> mustard gas
21:45 <@luna_> come to the university and there are other places to go and avoid agression is
21:45 <@luna_> another building in the universty
21:45 <@luna_> also use churches
21:46 <@luna_> their doors are being openened
21:46 <@sub> the building in the university is the faculty of law
21:46 <@luna_> ! most people 've never one this before
21:46 <@luna_> avoid contact with the violent police
21:47 <@luna_> remember 
21:47 <@luna_> they are an occupation force in our city
21:47 <@luna_> buut can occupy our heads
21:47 <@luna_> we wont allow the tyrant ulises ruiz or anyoner tyrant
21:47 <@luna_> to do this to us again
21:48 <@luna_> they are beating our people in zocalo and other places
21:48 <@sub> the aggression is in course 
21:48 <@luna_> now people are coming to our buildig radio universidad
21:48 < mahtin> they are calling for it to be a convergence point
21:49 <@luna_> !they are strong in niversity grounds
21:49 <@luna_> !!special laws apply
21:49 <@luna_> ! and there are many people there too
21:49 <@luna_> !already
21:49 <@luna_> !!this is one poit
21:49 <@luna_> radio
21:49 <@luna_> from the march
21:49 <@luna_> live
21:49 <@luna_> we do a call for calm
21:50 <@luna_> lets movilise but keep calm
21:50 <@luna_> dont answer to provocation
21:50 <@luna_> show we are a peacefull movement
21:50 <@luna_> police has made arrest
21:50 <@luna_> and beaten people
21:50 <@luna_> this is a call to advance peacefully
21:51 <@luna_> house searches continue
21:51 <@luna_> we ask people to ring in with info
21:51 <@luna_> what houses, who is arrested
21:52 <@luna_> one of my  relatives has been arrested... thank you
21:52 <@luna_> this is the situation in oaxaca 
21:52 <@luna_> we call for all of the people to concentrate massively in the univ
21:53 <@luna_> @stream is down
21:53 < mahtin> yep
21:54 < fierman> not down, problems with buffering to relay streams
21:54 <@acracia> down
21:54 <@sub> do they stream also somewhere else?
21:55 <@gus> BACK!
21:55 < fierman> enable 'repeat' option in your media player to pick up broken streams again
21:55 <@gus> ITS BACK
21:55 <@sub> the zocalo is taken
21:55 <@sub> so converge to the radio
21:56 <@luna_> an explosion
21:56 <@luna_> probably from the paramilitaries
21:56 <@sub> they cut the light to th epeople in calle del rosario
21:57 <@luna_> people in the demo are being gassed and beaten from the front 
21:57 <@luna_> but can move cuz people at the back dont undersnad what is happening
21:58 <@luna_> call to open the back of the march and go to the university building
21:58 <@sub> yes
21:58 <@sub> also to allow those in the front to retire
22:01 <@thibautcho> french press agency told that 12 cops from pfp are taken in hostage
22:02 <@Anna> url?
22:02 <@thibautcho> Mexique-violence-Oaxaca
22:02 <@thibautcho> OAXACA (Mexique), 29 oct 2006 (AFP) - 20:02
22:02 <@thibautcho> Douze militaires retenus par des manifestants à Oaxaca
22:02 <@thibautcho> http://www.afp.fr/francais/news/?pid=ticker
22:03 < difusion> hola compañeros  
22:03 < difusion> nuestra solidaridad y apoyo ala appo y alos maestros de la seccion 22
22:03 <@luna_> call to leave the streets and go to university
22:04 <@luna_> !hola
22:04 <@luna_> a bus with the logo of the university
22:04 <@luna_> full off paramilitaries
22:04 < mahtin> 1 bus 
22:04 <@luna_> is going around the city
22:04 <@luna_> one coach
22:04 <@luna_> university coach
22:05 <@luna_> this is how sometimes the paramilitaries operate
22:05 <@luna_> probably they highjacked it
22:05 <@luna_> but perhaps someone in power inside the university 
22:05 <@luna_> gave permission for this
22:06 <@luna_> as some people are not supporters of appo
22:06 <@luna_> two helicopters
22:06 <@luna_> trying to see the area
22:06 <@luna_> in order to break into the university 
22:07 <@yuri> dois helicópteros da PFP está sobrevoando a área da universidade para que possam invadi-la
22:07 <@luna_> recognising the ground in order to direct cops towards the police
22:07 <@luna_> towards the uni
22:07 <@luna_> call for people at the back of the demo
22:07 <@luna_> to open up
22:07 <@luna_> as people in the front cant avoid being gassed and beaten, 
22:08 <@luna_> as they cant move out of the way fat enough
22:08 <@luna_> fast
22:08 <@luna_> puente technologico
22:08 <@luna_> 4 tanks
22:08 <@luna_> one turned around
22:08 <@luna_> hellicopter checking how they are going to go in the city from that side
22:09 <@luna_> crossing the river
22:09 <@luna_> two important points
22:09 <@luna_> zocalo
22:09 <@luna_> and the radio
22:09 <@luna_> !and the fucking bridges?
22:09 <@luna_> appo
22:09 <@luna_> informs
22:10 <@luna_> people are staying in zocalo for a while, have a quick meeting
22:10 <@luna_> and then move towards the university
22:10 <@thibautcho> how much people are on oaxaca ?
22:10 <@luna_> political heart in zocalo
22:10 <@luna_> resisting the police
22:11 <@luna_> then it is important to reinforce people in zocalo
22:11 < sharpie> Nancy Davies reports only 200 ppl in the zocalo
22:11 <@luna_> so that the meeting can take place
22:11 <@luna_> !!which is tricky with the police beating the front of the demo in zocalo
22:12 <@luna_> radio there are loads of people in zocalo
22:12 <@luna_> lets have te meeting
22:12 <@luna_> resist
22:12 < sharpie> 200 is a lot in my mind :)
22:12 <@luna_> this is a historical day
22:12 <@luna_> for oaxaca, mexico and the world
22:12 <@luna_> show the streght of the people
22:13 <@luna_> never have we seen such police movilistation agaisnt a mass popular movement 
22:13 <@luna_> like ours
22:13 <@luna_> it is too difficult to hold a meeting in zocalo
22:13 <@luna_> companyeros move over to guerrero street
22:13 <@luna_> bridge
22:13 <@luna_> reprt from brige
22:13 <@luna_> tanks
22:14 <@luna_> 50m away from bridge
22:14 <@luna_> people are stopping them
22:14 <@luna_> the cant go in that way
22:14 < ski> tanks??? are you sure of this translation???
22:14 <@luna_> the state against the people
22:15 <@luna_> tanquetas
22:15 <@thibautcho> water trucks ?
22:15 <@luna_> armoured vehicles
22:15 <@ttx> blindé léger
22:15 <@luna_> some where !!throwing 
22:15 <@luna_> water
22:15 < ski> armoured vehicles sounds more likely
22:15 <@sub> details
22:16 <@lupa_> http://images.google.com.uy/images?q=tank&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:es-AR:unofficial&sa=N&tab=wi
22:16 <@sub> is water cannon vehicles
22:16 <@sub> with protectins
22:16 < ski> gracias por la clarificacion@ todos
22:17 <@luna_> we are in zocalo
22:17 <@luna_> police are beating our compas
22:17 <@luna_> although we are unarmed 
22:17 <@luna_> they are in the corner of the restaurant
22:17 <@luna_> they ahvent taken the square yet
22:18 <@luna_> but we need more ppl
22:18 <@luna_> they are coming in
22:18 <@luna_> national and international press are here
22:18 <@luna_> zocalo
22:18 <@luna_> hangs up
22:20 <@sub> they point to two concentracion points
22:20 <@sub> calle de guerrero and the university
22:20 <@yuri> part of the demo is in the guerrero street and other is in university?
22:21 <@sub> no
22:21 <@sub> they point to two concentracion points
22:21 <@thibautcho> down ?
22:21 < mahtin> they are identifying 3 infiltrators
22:21 <@yuri> oh cierto;
22:22 < mahtin> one has a black baseball cap i think and a white chivas t-shirt
22:22 <@sub> and one a black pullover
22:23 <@sub> with a journalist badge
22:23 < mahtin> guest-en type /nick yourname
22:24 <@yuri> no more translations?
22:24 <@gus> the radio is back
22:24 < guest-en> did it go off the air my stream is gone
22:24 <@Anna> please everyone realize that this channel is being published AS IT IS right away, so please only radio transcripts
22:24 < mahtin> he gave out the url of radio.indymedia.org
22:24 <@thibautcho> http://icecast.freeteam.nl:8000/appo.mp3.m3u
22:24 <@Anna> radio tech talk in #radio
22:25 < mahtin> it sounds like someone attacked a water truck and they are calling again for peaceful protest
22:25 <@luna_> radio gives out imc url 
22:25 <@luna_> for people to find out whats happening in oaxaca
22:26 < mahtin> i got disconn again
22:26 <@luna_> one compa has pierced the wheels 
22:26 <@luna_> of one of the small tanks
22:26 <@sub> fuck the radio falls always on interesting details
22:26 <@luna_> and they shot at him
22:26 <@yuri> they shot with real bullets?!
22:26 <@luna_> shot bullets
22:28 <@luna_> he threw himself to the side road
22:28 <@luna_> asking for support for him
22:28 <@luna_> !there is a delay in the stream
22:28 <@luna_> from mexico city, radio chapingo
22:28 <@luna_> connection
22:29 <@thibautcho> wtf and we 'are fucking waiting on our chair just "looking" at what happens ...
22:29 <@luna_> we will keep listening in
22:29 < mahtin> another caller
22:29 <@luna_> agent provocateurs
22:30 <@luna_> permanently provocking the police hoping to star a bloodbath
22:30 <@luna_> start
22:30 <@luna_> caut 
22:30 <@luna_> ??too confusing can aso hear studio talk
22:31 <@yuri> yes. too confusing.
22:31 <@luna_> they need materials
22:31 <@luna_> take buses and keep them near the barricades
22:31 <@luna_> people in the centre: join the march
22:32 <@luna_> then we can carry on
22:32 <@luna_> dont do anything without a decition from the appo and the barricade coordinators
22:33 <@luna_> security compas, please call in every 15minutes
22:33 <@luna_> with instructions of what to do
22:33 <@luna_> one of the leaders of the provocateurs
22:33 <@luna_> is a teacher
22:33 <@luna_> xi know him since university days
22:34 <@luna_> he is wearing black and orange
22:34 <@luna_> and he studied law
22:34 <@luna_> from san francico, sacramento, california
22:34 <@luna_> 3000 in a demo 
22:34 <@luna_> against the mexican gov
22:34 <@luna_> and this system
22:35 <@luna_> that has given us only misery
22:35 <@luna_> we will mee with HHRR orgs
22:35 <@luna_> to demand, ask, etc
22:35 <@luna_> that the constitution is respected
22:35 <@luna_> that humanrughts are respected
22:35 <@luna_> and to the police:
22:35 <@luna_> today we need brave people
22:36 <@luna_> you swore to protect your country
22:36 <@luna_> dont injure your people
22:36 <@luna_> you will be tried in court
22:36 <@luna_> that is what we ask from the whole world
22:36 <@luna_> dont forget about us
22:36 <@luna_> -
22:36 <@luna_> lorries are being removed
22:36 <@luna_> in puente tecnoogico
22:37 <@luna_> the police is removing the barricades and clearing the access to the city
22:37 <@luna_> !!tere whre 60 lorries full of army waiting there
22:37 <@yuri> de sacramento, san francisco e california - 3 mil numa manifestação contra o governo mexicano. e que este sistema só deu misério ao povo. irão se encontrar com HHRR orgs para as exigir as demandas: que a constituição seja respeitada, que os direitos humanos também seja. e para a polícia: hoje precisamos pessoas corajosas, vocês prometeram proteger o seu país, não machuquem as...
22:37 <@yuri> ...pessoas. vocês estarão no tribunal. não esqueçam de nós.
22:37 <@yuri> ops. sorry!
22:37 <@luna_> indiscriminate use of gas
22:38 <@luna_> !he cant breathe
22:38 <@luna_> it is a really critical situation here ( in the bridge)
22:38 <@luna_> they are trying to stop the police
22:38 <@luna_> our compa is chocking
22:38 <@luna_> we need water in the barricades
22:39 <@luna_> we call for people to do wat the security comission s saying
22:39 <@luna_> the hellicopter is throwing gassess
22:39 <@luna_> there is another helicopter gassing
22:39 <@luna_> live to...
22:40 <@luna_> ! a load of noise
22:40 <@luna_> the police is 
22:40 <@luna_> the tanks are throwing gass to the people resisting in the bridge
22:40 <@luna_> the resistance is making the cops to go bask
22:40 <@luna_> compas have managed to resist
22:40 <@luna_> even with gas bombs
22:41 <@luna_> in the bridge
22:41 <@luna_> we are divided in two
22:41 <@luna_> one part in the brodge itself
22:41 <@luna_> another in the avenue
22:41 <@luna_> they are trying to stop the water tanks
22:41 <@luna_> one tank thows water 
22:41 <@luna_> the other gas
22:42 <@luna_> it is important that people go to the bridge
22:42 <@luna_> we ar edefending our people 
22:42 <@luna_> we need vinegar
22:42 <@luna_> they are managing to contend the police
22:42 <@luna_> vinegar, 
22:42 <@luna_> need forst aid stuff
22:42 <@luna_> first
22:42 <@luna_> loads of van full of cops
22:43 <@luna_> in rosario bridge
22:43 <@luna_> going towards cinco se?ores
22:43 <@luna_> we call for people to come to university
22:43 <@luna_> and proctect it
22:43 <@yuri> !luna, where's the brigde, please?
22:44 <@luna_> puente tecnologico
22:44 <@luna_> east of the city
22:44 <@luna_> over the river?
22:44 <@yuri> ok. thank so much.
22:44 <@luna_> ther is a strong confrontation ther
22:44 <@luna_> there
22:44 <@luna_> between people and the tanks
22:44 <@thibautcho> do we know something about people injured ?
22:44 <@luna_> and the have the hellicopters too
22:44 <@luna_> throwing gass
22:45 <@luna_> ! no mention (audible) of injured
22:45 <@luna_> patrols are crossing the bridge that heads to rosario
22:45 <@luna_> connection with mixoacan
22:45 <@luna_> from mixoacan
22:45 <@luna_> really bad line, loads of people in a support demo
22:46 <@luna_> with oaxaca
22:46 <@luna_> zocalo and university, strategic points
22:46 <@luna_> many people from nearby villages have arrived to the university
22:47 <@luna_> urgent to tak food and water to the barricades
22:47 <@luna_> theyve been there al day
22:47 <@luna_> must avoid violebt resistance
22:47 <@luna_> violent
22:47 <@luna_> we have to move forward with our demands
22:47 <@luna_> out with ulises ruiz and the other demands
22:48 <@luna_> ther are demos in mexico, and other places in the country and from villages around oaxaca
22:49 <@luna_> thanks everyone for their suppport
22:49 <@luna_> your support
22:49 <@luna_> a hellicopter
22:49 <@luna_> in amor park
22:49 <@luna_> there are 50 companyeros 
22:50 <@luna_> that are being taken  inside the copter
22:50 <@luna_> they are using copter to move people arrested
22:52 <@luna_> there are police hidding behind the dog building
22:52 <@luna_> perrera
22:53 <@luna_> puente del tecnologico
22:53 <@luna_> the tanks failed to remove the barricades
22:53 <@luna_> there are thousands of people behind the barricades
22:53 <@luna_> resisting copters throwing gass
22:54 <@luna_> and the tanks cannot get thru
22:54 <@luna_> heroical peacefull resistance form the people
22:55 <@luna_> in amor park they arrested gerardo aldez valdez
22:55 <@luna_> valdez
22:55 <@luna_> they can be hitting us with their mighty violence but they will not take our hearts
22:55 <@luna_> like we have resisted thu history
22:55 <@luna_> and we resist with dignity
22:56 <@luna_> and proud
22:56 <@luna_> in tecnologico people need blankets
22:56 <@luna_> cuz they are bombing them
22:56 < kat> bombing them?
22:57 <@luna_> struggle against tanks continue
22:57 <@luna_> now body to body struggle
22:57 <@luna_> that is what she said
22:57 <@luna_> bombardeando
22:57 <@luna_> the tanks have not managed to pass
22:57 <@luna_> no pasaran
22:58 <@luna_> they need blankets, water
22:58 <@luna_> another report
22:58 <@luna_> there is a caravan
22:58 <@sub> i think they are getting bombed with teargas
22:58 <@yuri> !i think its gas bombs, you know?
22:58 <@luna_> coming from brenamiel
22:58 <@sub> there is acid in the water
22:58 <@luna_> of water tanks throwing water with pepper 
22:58 <@luna_> this is perhaps the movement that our lords have chose to kill us
22:59 <@luna_> calling for an ambulance
22:59 <@luna_> a compa has been shot
22:59 <@luna_> shot
22:59 <@luna_> dont take him to the red cross
22:59 <@luna_> take him to he church los principes of university
22:59 <@luna_> church or university
22:59 <@luna_> a compa has fallen shot
23:00 <@luna_> we are the majority
23:00 <@luna_> xoxo y san janito
23:00 <@luna_> go reinforce valerio trujano barricade
23:00 <@luna_> who are resisnting right not there
23:00 <@luna_> the PFP is trying to take channel9
23:00 <@luna_> and paramiliraties are somewhere
23:00 <@luna_> we are ready to give ourlives
23:01 <@luna_> as they said before
23:01 <@luna_> better die standing
23:01 <@sub> than on your knees
23:01 <@luna_> that die on our knees
23:01 <@luna_> or in front of a computer
23:01 <@luna_> !!
23:01 <@yuri> !!!
23:01 <@luna_> we rae not afraid 
23:01 <@luna_> we know who those dogs are
23:02 <@luna_> we have identified the paramilitaries
23:02 <@luna_> we know them and we are not afraid of them
23:02 <@luna_> the students say
23:02 <@luna_> we will not turn away
23:02 <@luna_> we wil defend our university
23:02 <@luna_> we are going to wait for you
23:02 <@luna_> the paramilitaries
23:02 <@luna_> the police
23:03 <@luna_> the pfp we will stay in the radio building till the lastm moment
23:03 <@luna_> the hellicoper with 40 of our people has landed in the airport
23:03 <@luna_> everyone in thh discotel area
23:03 <@luna_> please erect a barricade
23:03 <@luna_> not to resist
23:03 <@luna_> but to climb it and see who exactlyhas been arested
23:04 <@luna_> in bustamante 
23:04 <@luna_> pur people has built a human wall
23:04 <@luna_> to prevent the police from going in
23:04 <@luna_> also around the university there are a lot of ppl
23:04 <@luna_> please informus immediatly so that we are able to help you
23:05 <@luna_> well done to te ppl building the wall with their own bodies
23:05 <@luna_> the army will realise how they have made a
23:05 <@luna_> huge mistake 
23:05 <@luna_> using violece against a peacefull resistance
23:05 <@luna_> it is important that we come to universidad
23:06 <@luna_> also in guerrero street
23:06 <@luna_> we have to keep orderly with intellligence
23:06 <@luna_> bienaventurados 
23:06 <@luna_> our children 
23:06 <@luna_> men and women
23:06 <@luna_> god bless us comrades
23:06 <@luna_> if we have to die today
23:06 <@luna_> they tell us 
23:07 <@luna_> ppl arrested in amor park
23:07 <@luna_> the copters have landed in the army airport
23:07 < mahtinata> (we will die like the sun dies)
23:07 <@luna_> we tell you that so you can see that oaxaca is looking
23:07 <@luna_> in thei movement
23:07 <@luna_> avemida technologico
23:07 <@luna_> police are pushing in
23:07 <@luna_> people are pushing back
23:07 <@luna_> its amazing how poeple are pushing them back
23:08 <@luna_> coming to reinfore the resistance
23:08 <@luna_> defending this square 
23:08 <@luna_> for more that 30 minutes, 
23:08 <@luna_> rsisting gas, bombs
23:08 <@luna_> puente tecnologico
23:08 <@luna_> police are dispersing
23:09 <@luna_> !replegandose
23:09 <@luna_> we call for people to come to the radio building to keep us on air
23:09 <@luna_> in ths heroic, peacefull and popular resistance
23:09 <@luna_> we also call for water, food, blankets
23:10 <@luna_> so they can keep their resistance
23:10 <@luna_> the confrontation in tecnologico carries on
23:10 <@luna_> police against people
23:10 <@luna_> front to front
23:10 <@luna_> police is trying to break into channel 9
23:10 <@luna_> in amilpas
23:10 <@luna_> oeple resisting too
23:10 <@luna_> manage to stop th pfp
23:11 <@luna_> channel 9 is a friendly channel
23:11 <@luna_> we cal to people all over the world to keep an eye on the HHRR situation
23:11 <@luna_> we want ulises ruis out
23:11 <@luna_> people are raising all over mexico
23:11 <@luna_> "we are all oaxaca"
23:12 <@luna_> we are all a people against those in power
23:12 <@luna_> doing this and that
23:12 <@luna_> we are making history
23:12 <@luna_> "we are all oaxaca" that is the call
23:15 <@luna_> resist
23:15 <@luna_> in a peacefull way
23:15 <@luna_> keep the phone line going
23:15 <@luna_> and the information coming in
23:15 <@luna_> we are also calling to come and resist fisically here in the univ building
23:16 <@luna_> as is a coordination tool
23:16 <@luna_> 95111364757
23:16 <@luna_> we continue to monitor what is going on 
23:16 <@luna_> we are all oaxaca
23:16 <@luna_> www.indymedia,org
23:17 <@luna_> people continue to resist, and needing support please support the different locations 
23:17 <@luna_> lets not give up our city
23:18 <@luna_> they might have the streght to impose their will
23:18 <@luna_> but we will never give them our consent
23:18 <@luna_> >music>
23:18 <@luna_> it is not bell of death 
23:18 <@luna_> it is bells of live
23:18 <@luna_> thousands of brothers
23:19 <@luna_> it is workers, campesinos, miners, citizens, hundreds of thousand who resist
23:19 <@luna_> ...etc
23:21 <@luna_> end/>
23:21 <@luna_> under the direction of fox, calderon, ruiz....
23:22 <@luna_> newspaper person calling in asking for info on situaton in alemania
23:22 <@luna_> copters, gass, arrested, direct confrontation,  i varios places
23:22 <@luna_> in miguel aleman
23:23 <@luna_> hooded police are doing house searches
23:23 <@luna_> our people are resisting peacefully
23:23 <@luna_> and the state is stricking with violence
23:23 <@luna_> from the morning till now people are resisting
23:24 <@luna_> if the governor is listening
23:24 <@luna_> fuck off
23:24 <@luna_> (or something like that)
23:24 <@luna_> there are reports that the police is armed with assault rifles
23:24 <@luna_> yes they are
23:24 <@luna_> there are reports of shot
23:24 <@luna_> shot is the bridge
23:25 <@luna_> shots 
23:25 <@luna_> we understand that there is a neighbourhood where there is trouble
23:26 <@luna_> why if the confrontation is in the centre
23:26 <@luna_> there are 8 point of confrontation
23:26 <@luna_> all over
23:26 <@luna_> can we keep the phone line open?
23:26 <@luna_> ok
23:27 <@luna_> we are in puente tecnol
23:27 <@luna_> to let poeple know that
23:27 <@luna_> the compa that went head on against the tank, has been arested
23:27 <@luna_> there is one person injured
23:27 <@luna_> hit with a "firework"
23:28 <@luna_> !guess a stunt bomb
23:28 <@sub> probably the guy who pierced the tyres?
23:28 <@luna_> ! sounds like him
23:28 <@luna_> ! someone that "went for it"
23:28 <@luna_> we need to knwo who escatly has been arrested
23:29 <@luna_> they have managed to break the block?
23:29 <@luna_> yep
23:29 <@luna_> !i think
23:29 <@luna_> yes
23:30 <@luna_> they broke the resisting
23:30 <@luna_> !!so it is free way from the lorries waiting other side of the bridge
23:30 <@yuri> they broke the resistance, where?
23:30 <@luna_> puente tecnologico
23:30 <@yuri> ok!
23:30 <@luna_> search the transcription
23:30 <@luna_> !!shit
23:31 <@luna_> !!! the city will flood with cops
23:31 < mahtin> a journalist from excelsior was injured
23:31 <@luna_> !everyone to radio universidad
23:31 < mahtin> ambulance is coming for him
23:31 <@luna_> everyone to radio universidad
23:31 <@luna_> cheers mahtin
23:32 < mahtin> np
23:32 <@luna_> wanna do a bit of this?
23:32 < mahtin> ugh
23:32 < mahtin> the comp@s from some of the colonias have put the barricades 
23:32 < mahtin> at 5 senores/rosarios
23:33 < mahtin> i think they are calling for action at the tires 
23:33 <@luna_> parmilitaries are now around zona univeritaria
23:33 < mahtin> francisco estrada arias parcoijil?  has black jacket around town, looks sketchy, has chinese hair-- watch out for him
23:34 <@luna_> ! people have to understand, compas from oaxaca said, people outside mexico, than in oaxaca, the paramilitaries "open the way" for the police. right wing supporters.
23:34 < mahtin> tecnologico - pfp is coming toward Channel 9, people are reinforcing
23:34 <@luna_> alert
23:34 < mahtin> supposed ambulance is the police
23:34 <@luna_> there is supposed to be an ambulance running around the city
23:34 <@luna_> it is a police vehicle
23:34 < mahtin> be careful of who is helping our injured comp@s
23:35 <@luna_> rems ambulance
23:35 < mahtin> again, be careful- the ambulance is the police
23:35 < mahtin> as we continue this day of resistance and direct confrontation with police and pfp...
23:35 <@luna_> kev	the other campaign is blocking eje central in mexico city. just moved a bus across this major avanue that corsses the city center
23:35 <@luna_> !
23:35 < mahtin> we repudiate the presence of the federal forces, and we demand that the federal police stop invading oaxaca
23:36 < mahtin> we have to defend our ideas, compan~eros
23:36 < mahtin> to resist, to defend our rights, the pueblo of Oaxaca and Mexico
23:36 < mahtin> from mexico city in df, they are taking roads in suppot of oaxaca
23:37 < mahtin> they are attacking oaxaca in a violent way, while the peopel resist peacefully
23:37 < mahtin> we have to stay firm, keep our eyes out, watch the different kinds of ambulances
23:37 < mahtin> and not leave our injured alone
23:38 < mahtin> have people who support them with them
23:38 < mahtin> head cold, heart ho
23:38 < mahtin> t
23:38 < mahtin> peopel of oaxaca are defending a just cause, don't give in to the pfp or let them in
23:38 < mahtin> phone call (i need help with this)
23:38 < zapATIsta> hi mahtin, hi all
23:38 < mahtin> someone threw a granada
23:39 < mahtin> granade
23:39 <@luna_> copter that was supposed to monitor crowd movements
23:39 <@luna_> has suddenly thrown a gass greande into the multitude
23:39 <@luna_> just like that
23:39 < mahtin> radio person says they are tear gas grenades
23:39 <@luna_> hot metal canisters
23:40 <@luna_> with smoke
23:40 < mahtin> people are defending their right to gather and protest
23:40 <@luna_> thrown over the heads of the people
23:40 < mahtin> URO out of Oaxaca, never pfp in oaxaca
23:40 < mahtin> no shame in rejecting...bloodbath...
23:41 < mahtin> Romero from Calle ciudad - identifying and making a general list of people who have been captured
23:41 <@luna_> !!mahtin where was that?
23:41 <@luna_> !!the gass
23:41 < mahtin> maybe wrong, but they started out talking about a person
23:41 < mahtin> oh i forget
23:41 < mahtin> in 7 principes they need towels/help
23:42 < mahtin> i can never understand the beginning of phone calls
23:42 < mahtin> for people to keep coming together to defend key points
23:42 < mahtin> like radio universidad, tecnologico, other strategic points and keep advancing
23:43 < mahtin> mass peaceful resistance continues
23:44 < mahtin> we say, enough of this tyrant...
23:44 < mahtin> call to keep following the example of APPO
23:44 < mahtin> call to the world to demand an end to the escalation of violence against the protesters in Oaxaca
23:45 < mahtin> some 50 detained
23:45 < mahtin> several injured
23:45 < mahtin> this afternoon is what golden pages in the history of mex, oaxaca, humanity will be written about...
23:45 < mahtin> we will continue the resistance....
23:46 < mahtin> let's come together and strengthen the resistance in the capital of the state
23:46 < mahtin> we'll form a peaceful barrier against the pfp
23:46 < mahtin> please don't provoke them or commit any act - it's better to leave
23:47 < mahtin> there is talk about infiltrators and about the ambulance
23:47 < mahtin> get out of that area
23:47 < mahtin> some say you can trust the ambulance, others say you can't
23:47 < mahtin> the driver, luis, is a friend of some comp@s
23:48 < mahtin> but i don't want to be responsible
23:48 <@heth> stream stopped
23:48 < mahtin> let the ambulance thru cuz we know the driver
23:48 < mahtin> shit
23:48 < mahtin> back
23:49 < mahtin> don't respond with violence, tjhis stream went down too
23:49  * boud too lost the stream
23:50 < mahtin> does anyone have it?
23:50 <@yuri> i don't.
23:50 < tomm_> lost it too :/
23:50 <@jolly> no have
23:50 < Devin> dead here too.
23:52 <@heth> back again
23:53 < mahtin> i don't have it
23:53 <@heth> i lost it again too
23:53 < fierman> down/;
23:53 < fierman> :(
23:54 <@ionnek> hey / strange, i can hear the stream...
23:54 <@clack> http://s8.viastreaming.net:7100/ http://67.15.192.20:8010/ are the two main sources
23:55 <@luna_> http://67.15.192.20:8010/ server down
23:56 < occam> please, use always the radio.indy link
23:56 < mahtin> toya says taht they cut the electricity at the univ
23:56 < leo> shit
23:56 < mahtin> not confirmed other than her
23:57 < mahtin> people are calling the radio
23:57 <@sub> also s8 viastreaming is down
23:58 < mahtin> electricity not off
23:58 <@yuri> they didnt cut the energy?
23:58 <@sub> no
23:59 < mahtin> i am hearing yes and no
23:59 < bossa> me too
23:59 <@yuri> hehe
23:59 <@yuri> me too.
23:59 < bossa> here you say no in #mexico yes....
--- Log closed Mon Oct 30 00:00:00 2006
--- Log opened Mon Oct 30 00:00:00 2006
--- Day changed Mon Oct 30 2006
00:00 < toya> ppl are asayin git
00:00 < toya> on #mexico
00:00 < toya> 21:08 < radioplanton> mensajes nos han llegado de ke kortaron la luz
00:00 <@heth> my first impression was some kind of a problem with the streaming servers
00:00 < toya> 21:09 < bossa> asi que es oficial....mierda
00:00 < toya> 21:09 < luna_> a ver de quien son los mensages?
00:00 <@luna_> si
00:00 <@luna_> podemos confirmarlo o no?
00:01 < toya> 21:10 < cml7> est# bien los compas en radio universidad
00:01 < toya> 21:11 <@toya> ok
00:01 < toya> 21:11 <@toya> ;)
00:01 < toya> 21:11 < cml7> cortaron la luz
00:01 < toya> 21:11 < cml7> est# buscando como reconectarla
00:05 <@clack> anyone have a clean log so far?
00:05 <@mtopper> clean?
00:05 <@clack> just the transcription from the radio
00:06 <@mtopper> www.iteration.org/radioappo.txt
00:06 <@mtopper> is a live log of this channel
00:18 < toya> i am uploading the audio i was recording 
00:18 < toya> till they cut it
00:19 < acracia> toya, http://netjuke.r23.cc/search.php?do=list.tracks&col=ar_id&val=1992&sort=ar
00:19 < toya> oi
00:37 <@yuri> fucking shit.
00:37 < halo-afk> any updates on the radio station?
00:38 < halo-afk> they ok in there?
00:39 <@yuri> they are ok.
00:39 <@yuri> trying to reconnect the energy
00:39 < Devin> yuri, what's your communication connection with them?
00:40 <@yuri> well, i'm just repassing what some person from ciudad de mexico said in #mexico
00:40 < Devin> ok, thanks.
00:41 <@yuri> no problem.
00:46 <@clack> i removed all the nicks and excess chat / join and quit from a log of #radioappo transcription
00:46 <@clack> shall i publish it on radio.indy?
00:46 <@clack> or is there a wiki somewhere?
00:48 < Devin> a wiki for what? 
00:49 < Devin> you mean wikipedia or what? 
00:50 < Devin> how long is the log? 
00:50 < Devin> you could throw it into the discussion page of the wikipedia article if it's not super long. 
00:50 < gdm> THIS CHANNEL IS BEING LOGGED ALREADY: http://www.iteration.org/radioappo.txt PLEASE ONLY SPEAK IF YOU ARE TRANSLATING FROM THE RADIO STREAM INTO ENGLISH. ALL OTHER DISCUSSION IN #radio PLEASE
00:50 < gdm> THIS CHANNEL IS BEING LOGGED ALREADY: http://www.iteration.org/radioappo.txt PLEASE ONLY SPEAK IF YOU ARE TRANSLATING FROM THE RADIO STREAM INTO ENGLISH. ALL OTHER DISCUSSION IN #radio PLEASE
01:12 <@yuri> BACK!
01:12 <@yuri> another radio
01:12 <@yuri> http://portal.radiobemba.org/streaming/
01:12 <@yuri> translaters?
01:14 < elaine> http://68.178.153.169:8100/
01:16 <@yuri> vladimir from indymedia is talking on tha radio bemba now!
01:16 < leo> what if the people in oaxaca talk over the telephone to ou guys and you stream that over the internet
01:17 <@luna_> we are translating on #radiobemba but id this is being logged it might be an idea to do it here
01:18 <@luna_> cuz people like vlax will give verygood inside info
01:18 <@luna_> not the real time info and chaos from the appo coordination, but still would allow a more whole sense of wht is happening
01:18 <@luna_> what do people think?
01:19 < jolly> luna_: do it here ;)
01:20 <@luna_> the stream is skipping heavily
01:25 <@luna_> oka
01:25 <@luna_> radio revolucion is bacl 
01:25 <@luna_> they are checking the signal
01:25 <@luna_> ?
01:29 <@luna_> it is now 7:39:24 PM CST
01:29 <@luna_> in oaxaca
01:29 <@luna_> and radio appo is back
01:29 < leo> radio appo is playing hip hop?
01:29 <@luna_> playing chilean rap
01:29 < leo> orale
01:29 < gus> hahahaha
01:29 <@luna_> mapuche
01:29 <@luna_> perdon
01:29 <@luna_> sorry
01:29 <@luna_> sorry
01:29 < leo> cachai
01:30 <@luna_> mapuche rap
01:30 <@luna_> from gulumapu
01:30 <@luna_> invaded mapuche land
01:30 <@luna_> neo colonialism
01:30 <@luna_> and resistance
01:30 < Devin> i still don't have a stream that works...what url is working for you now?
01:30 <@luna_> chile
01:30 < leo> http://kehuelga.org:8000/radio.mp3
01:31 <@luna_> silence
01:31 <@jebba> mirror: http://ahimsa-radio1.indymedia.org:8300/appo.mp3
01:32 <@jebba> it's not appo though, it's kehuelga
01:32 <@jebba> (transmitting silence)
01:32 < gus> its up :)
01:32 < Devin> that works...is it live?
01:32 <@luna_> dunno
01:33 < Devin> ok, thanks.
01:33 <@luna_> if people have time check http://www.azkintuwe.org/ for new of mapuche issues/resistance
01:33 <@luna_> and lets keep this channel for stream content stuff 
01:33 <@luna_> and tecnical questions to #radio
01:34 < Gordito> Apparently there is no resistance going on in Oaxaca http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,20667872-5006003,00.html
01:39 < lupa> appo radio está al aire?
01:40 <@luna_> not sure
01:40 < gus> not yet
01:40 <@yuri> i'm listening some rap
01:41 < lupa> si.. eso es kehuelga... no?
01:41 < jolly> lupa: si, http://kehuelga.org:8000/radio.mp3
01:41 <@luna_> venceremos
01:41 < gus> http://68.178.153.169:8100/ (radio bemba)
01:41 < lupa> sisi ... estoy escuchando a allende creo
01:41 <@luna_> Sunday, October 29, 2006 at 7:45:14 PM
01:41 < lupa> no no...
01:42 <@luna_> mapurap
01:43 < Devin> anyone translating radiobemba?
01:45 < lupa> i think no
01:46 <@yuri> wait
01:46 <@yuri> kehuelga
01:46 <@yuri> they are talking somethin
01:46 <@yuri> !
01:46 <@yuri> the rap stopped.
01:47 <@yuri> now its silence.
01:48 <@yuri> they are goin to realize a new mobilisation
01:48 <@yuri> in 3 points!
01:48 <@luna_> it will be a long night
01:49 < gus> luna_: yeah!
01:49 < jolly> they = companeros ?
01:49 <@yuri> si
01:49 <@luna_> we ask the liberation of our prisoners
01:50 <@yuri> 1 - retiro de la PFP 2 - liberacion de los prisoneiros 
01:50 <@yuri> 3 -???
01:50 <@luna_> the sacking of ulises ruiz
01:50 <@luna_> revolution?
01:50 <@yuri> i would like
01:51 <@luna_> we are trying to make contact with compas in meico
01:51 <@luna_> mexico city
01:51 <@luna_> to see if we can organise joint mobilisation
01:51 <@luna_> also in other places in me
01:51 <@luna_> poeple are stranded in zocalo
01:51 <@luna_> and want to know waht to do
01:52 <@luna_> go to university?
01:52 <@luna_> yes, disperse if you judge that is the best
01:52 <@luna_> the university is one of the places
01:52 < lupa> radio bemba: universidad radio on air
01:52 <@luna_> but we are trying to stablish other points
01:52 <@luna_> ! that is the spokes person for appo, florentino
01:53 <@luna_> phone in
01:53 <@luna_> from tecnologico bridge
01:53 <@luna_> a child of 12
01:53 <@luna_> dead?
01:53 <@luna_> we are in tecnologico
01:53 <@luna_> the battle is over
01:53 <@luna_> the people that where here
01:53 <@luna_> left to santa maria and channel9 barricades
01:54 <@luna_> we saw a 12-14 year old
01:54 <@luna_> was laying in the floor
01:54 <@luna_> with shot wounds
01:54 <@luna_> noone wanted to touch him
01:54 <@luna_> and the police moved in
01:54 <@luna_> and we dispersed not too far
01:55 <@luna_> but when we came back the child wasnt there anymore
01:55 <@luna_> and the cops say that we took him
01:55 <@luna_> anyone took pictures from him?
01:55 <@luna_> yes
01:55 <@luna_> dont know his name
01:55 <@luna_> noone knew him
01:56 <@luna_> there is a direct line to call to a number to saturate it
01:56 <@luna_> ready paper
01:56 <@luna_> 01 555 09 33 48 0
01:57 <@luna_> call in ans saturate the line
01:57 <@luna_> !people
01:57 <@luna_> direct line to los pinos
01:57 <@luna_> stick mexico number
01:57 <@luna_> we demand the body of the child
01:58 <@luna_> los pinos is the residence of the president of the republic
01:58 <@yuri> huuum
01:58 <@yuri> right!
01:58 <@luna_> !!people call that number demand PFP out
01:58 <@luna_> !!people call that number demand PFP out
01:58 <@luna_> !!people call that number demand PFP out
01:58 <@luna_> !!people call that number demand PFP out
01:59 <@luna_> someone stick the number in indymedia channel 
01:59 <@luna_> and ask ppl to stick it in our respective sites
01:59 < Asher> We just did a solidarity demonstration in Wellington, Aotearoa/New Zealand - http://indymedia.org.nz/newswire/display/71904/index.php
02:00 <@luna_> call the president house
02:00 <@luna_> give him a bollocking
02:02 <@yuri> whats happening?
02:02 <@luna_> people are shooting fireworks at the copters
02:02 <@yuri> oh ok.
02:02 <@luna_> flying over the university
02:03 <@luna_> people are asked not to do that
02:03 <@luna_> we are all angty 
02:03 <@luna_> but dont give the exuses
02:03 <@luna_> prudence, discipline, organisation
02:03 <@luna_> we are going to resist like in india
02:04 <@luna_> we mst stay calm
02:04 <@luna_> they are asking us where the first aid points are
02:04 <@luna_> igeasia la merced, 7 pricipes, etc
02:04 <@luna_> 4
02:05 <@luna_> then there are also doctors and nurses thruput the sister
02:05 <@luna_> today you forgot the masks 
02:05 <@luna_> to cover your mouths against gass
02:05 <@luna_> 2 parts of water
02:05 <@luna_> 1 vonegar
02:05 <@luna_> inegar
02:06 <@luna_> cover nose and mouth with a cloth ipped in the solution
02:06 <@luna_> you forgot that before
02:06 <@luna_> we ran out of old tshirts
02:06 <@luna_> but drop by the university if you need vinegar
02:06 <@luna_> 4 squadrons of police
02:07 <@luna_> rappidly moving towards zocalo
02:07 <@luna_> throwing gass, moving fast
02:07 <@luna_> message  for zocalo and in the way
02:08 <@luna_> ! please dont thow fireworks at the copters flying over our heads
02:08 <@luna_> it might provoque them
02:08 <@luna_> united
02:08 <@luna_> organised
02:08 <@luna_> disciplined
02:08 <@luna_> all power to the people
02:08 <@luna_> but we agreed to some stuff, so obbey
02:09 <@luna_> in the 25 of january assembly
02:09 <@luna_> go and sabotage lorries
02:09 <@luna_> in lano verde too
02:09 <@luna_> put up a barricade
02:09 <@luna_> in puente de hornos
02:10 <@luna_> it is a weak point
02:10 <@luna_> we must reinforce it
02:10 <@luna_> -
02:10 <@luna_> raimundo morales
02:10 <@luna_> get in touch with your family
02:10 <@luna_> he left to parque del amor and his family has not heard from him since
02:11 <@luna_> -
02:11 <@luna_> interview with a woman just back from zocalo
02:11 <@luna_> still sweating
02:11 <@luna_> hi
02:11 <@luna_> we agreed to
02:11 <@luna_> hello?
02:11 <@luna_> hello
02:11 <@luna_> is this kehuelga
02:12 <@luna_> or what
02:12 < lupa> i think yes
02:12 <@yuri> a little be confusing
02:12 <@luna_> there was someone injured there
02:12 <@luna_> leads of people in the university
02:12 <@luna_> is is a fortess
02:14 <@luna_> information
02:14 <@luna_> one child dead 
02:14 <@luna_> in santa maria tzompa
02:14 <@luna_> a wouunded teacher
02:17 <@luna_> ok we were listening to kehuega stream
02:17 <@luna_> and they switched the appo stream to ther won interview
02:17 <@luna_> own
02:18 <@heth> Jazz ?
02:18 < Devin> heh, yep
02:19 <@luna_> camarada jazz
02:19 < sw> luna_ coult u mark somehow what is from the radio and whar is from you?
02:19 < sw> it's not that importat
02:20 < sw> important, but when it would help sometimes
02:21 <@luna_> ` am trying to get the right stream
02:21 <@luna_> `this is not appo
02:21 <@yuri> luna, did you hear what is the situation in zocalo?
02:21 < gus> kuhuelga?
02:21 <@luna_> `http://ahimsa-radio1.indymedia.org:8300/appo.mp3
02:21 <@luna_> ` this is not appo
02:21 <@luna_> `why am i the only one marking my voice
02:21 <@luna_> `?
02:21 <@luna_> this is kehuelga
02:21 <@luna_> `
02:21 <@luna_> `
02:21 <@luna_> `
02:22 < jebba> luna_, yes, that ahimsa stream is now kehuelga.
02:22 < jebba> as i understand it, appo is not available
02:23 <@yuri> appo is not mirrored by http://kehuelga.org:8000/radio.mp3 ?
02:24 <@yuri> they were talkin somethin like: "we ask people stop shootin fireworks here in the university"
02:24 <@luna_> kehuelga just switched back to realying kehuelga
02:24 <@yuri> oh ok.
02:24 <@luna_> which means that kehuelga is pciking the appo stream
02:25 < Devin> It seems kehuelga is worth translating either way. 
02:25 < Devin> (if APPO is down)
02:25 <@luna_> now am getting fed up at the patronising tone of some of the appo voices
02:25 <@luna_> but
02:25 <@luna_> the decition is what we wanna listen to
02:25 <@luna_> real time info on the cops moves
02:25 <@luna_> and so on
02:25 <@luna_> or jazz
02:26 <@luna_> and we have listen to venceremos about 10 time today 
02:26 <@luna_> `that is not the point
02:26 <@luna_> `the point is what do we think best for the netwrk
02:27 <@luna_> `uh?
02:27 < sw> luna_: you could use a script to transcript vanceremos ;)
02:28 < gus> the radio is back
02:29 <@yuri> ok, comrades. i goin to rest.
02:29 <@luna_> `
02:29 <@yuri> i'm
02:29 <@luna_> call in from the us of a
02:29 <@luna_> this is the president of ( ddnt catch)
02:30 <@luna_> they work defending the right os immigrans up there
02:30 <@luna_> and tomorrow they will meet with amnesty
02:30 <@luna_> and hes going to leave this email address so that 
02:31 <@luna_> people can send them reports of human right abuses
02:31 <@luna_> according to the mexican 
02:31 <@luna_> constitution
02:31 <@luna_> as all human right abuses shouldnt go unpunished
02:32 <@luna_> they will also present a letter to the usa consultate
02:32 <@luna_> in mexico
02:32 <@luna_> to bring whoever is responible
02:32 <@luna_> to an international court
02:32 <@luna_> they want real info
02:33 <@luna_> they are aganist voilence
02:33 <@luna_> violence
02:33 <@luna_> lulacmtoax@yahoo.com
02:33 <@luna_> i think
02:34 <@luna_> `i think
02:34 <@luna_> they will hold different meeting with immigrant mexican brothers
02:34 <@luna_> and explain them the situation
02:35 <@luna_> please get in touch
02:35 <@luna_> we wanna know the feeling of our people
02:35 <@luna_> look for the best ways to help
02:35 <@luna_> `down
02:37 <@luna_> `up
02:37 <@luna_> we are angry cuz ther is nothing we can do at this moment
02:38 <@luna_> but we are working to help
02:38 <@luna_> please right
02:38 <@luna_> email
02:38 <@luna_> in libertad
02:38 <@luna_> neighbourhood
02:38 <@luna_> a guy in a motorbike is guiding a lorry full of people
02:38 <@luna_> be carefull
02:39 <@luna_> 2 lorries full of people
02:39 <@luna_> greetings to everyone in the  aleman barricade
02:39 <@luna_> we are going to give the names of our compas fallen
02:39 <@luna_> our fallen 
02:40 <@luna_> bernal - nurse
02:40 <@luna_> stabbed teacher
02:40 <@luna_> an under aged child
02:40 <@luna_> and another unders aged who was run over by one of the tanks
02:41 <@luna_> we consider we are in a fragile situation
02:41 <@luna_> that it will be tomorrow that we will have infiltrators
02:41 <@luna_> to provoke an eviction
02:43 <@luna_> people are asking us to repeat the phone number
02:43 <@luna_> of the president's fox home
02:43 <@luna_> 	luna_	01 555 09 33 48 0
02:44 <@luna_> @52 in front
02:44 <@luna_> +55(0)1 555 09 33 48 0
02:44 <@luna_> and we hold calderon and fox responible
02:44 <@luna_> esp calderon who preassured fox to intervene
02:44 <@luna_> we need to know what is happeing in all barricade
02:44 <@luna_> ss
02:45 <@luna_> we need to have the info 
02:45 <@luna_> we need to know what the cuality of the signal is
02:45 <@luna_> how far you can listen to it
02:46 <@luna_> a few minutes ago a copter overflew
02:46 <@luna_> and in the morning again the copters will go up ti support the eviction
02:47 <@luna_> families are getting in touch to find out where their people are
02:49 < gus> there is more tanquetas coming
02:55 < gus> nooo! hip hop nooo!
02:56 <@luna_> http://www.mountainrebel.net/oaxaca/
02:56 <@luna_> `my signal is falling
02:58 <@luna_> we remind people 
02:58 <@luna_> there is calm in many places
02:58 <@luna_> it looks like the police hace contained their advance
02:59 <@luna_> we need to know who the dead child is
02:59 <@luna_> please if your child did not make it back home tonight
02:59 <@luna_> report it to the radio
02:59 <@luna_> urgent
03:10 < Gordito> has appo radio been shut down?
03:10 < gus> vencereemos!
03:13 <@luna_> its mapuche rap im listening to
03:13 <@luna_> `
03:13 <@luna_> ` people are working hard to repair problems with too many connections to kehuelga
03:13 <@luna_> `which is what we seem to be listeng to now
03:14 <@luna_> ` but there is too many of us sucking the kehuelga signal
03:14 <@luna_> ` so it is dropping
03:14 <@luna_> `i think
03:14 < Gordito> yea i got a stream working now...they are talking again
03:14 <@luna_> `there is a voice now
03:14 <@luna_> ` but the quality is too good
03:14 <@luna_> ` not appo
03:14 <@luna_> `venceremos
03:15 <@luna_> `bueno
03:15 <@luna_> `ke huelga is sound
03:15 <@luna_> `so 
03:15 <@luna_> `shall we carry on?
03:53 < Gordito> .
04:57 <@stacy> the signal is back
05:00 <@luna_> radio:
05:00 <@luna_> we need to rebuild the barricades that where taken down
05:01 <@luna_> report: 2 vans full of prisoners leaving oaxaca
05:01 <@luna_> please ppl try to stop them
05:01 <@luna_> and free our compas
05:02 <@luna_> barricadas: we must block the vans. resque
05:02 <@luna_> our people
05:02 <@luna_> rosa anastasia martinez
05:02 <@luna_> 48 years old
05:02 <@luna_> dissapeared
05:02 <@luna_> ppl be careful you dont get kidnapped by pfp
05:02 <@luna_> we recomend 
05:03 <@luna_> to families to gather in the points were prisoners are known to be taken to
05:03 <@luna_> colula, etc
05:03 <@luna_> gutierrez, alejandro reyes
05:03 <@luna_> dissapeared
05:04 <@luna_> isidro ramirex ilescas and son
05:05 <@luna_> where detained together with 18 ppl and are being
05:05 <@luna_> forced to talk  to police
05:05 <@luna_> human rights orgs
05:05 <@luna_> please go to 
05:05 <@luna_> a bodega in front of "el rey"
05:06 <@luna_> warehouse or wine cellar "el rey"
05:07 <@luna_> 11:18 pm in mexico
05:08 <@luna_> <music>
05:09 < pgh_anarchist> is it good music?
05:10 <@luna_> `deep ends
05:10 <@luna_> pfp is "clearing out' some areas
05:10 <@luna_> radio says
05:10 <@luna_> dont worry
05:10 <@luna_> we will take those areas again tomorrow
05:11 <@luna_> at 11am there will be 3 marches/demos
05:11 <@luna_> and it is important ppl attend and help retake the city
05:11 <@luna_> 20 sububans in the airport
05:12 <@luna_> in the wine cellar near the petrol station
05:12 <@luna_> our political prisoners are being forced to make declarations
05:12 <@luna_> in fron of "el rey
05:12 <@luna_> human rights obsevers please go there and monitor the situation
05:13 <@luna_> please call 
05:13 <@luna_> 01 55 509 33 400
05:13 <@luna_> phone number of the governor's office
05:14 <@luna_> 011 55 509 33 480 
05:14 <@luna_> los pinos
05:14 <@luna_> the presidents residence
05:14 <@luna_> people keep calling those numbers
05:14 <@luna_> at 11 am
05:14 <@luna_> from iyepo
05:14 <@luna_> from justice
05:15 <@luna_> and santa rosa market
05:15 <@luna_> the marches will start from these 3 points
05:15 <@luna_> tomorrow morning
05:15 <@luna_> people from surrounding communities
05:16 <@luna_> and people in the northern mountain range
05:16 <@luna_> come down to the marches too
05:16 <@luna_> dont loose heart
05:16 <@luna_> people in brenamiel and tecnologico
05:16 <@luna_> have been asking for blankets
05:16 <@luna_> food and anti gass equipment
05:16 <@luna_> and asking to reinforce the barricades too
05:17 <@luna_> its getting colder
05:17 <@luna_> take blankets
05:17 <@luna_> brink 4 inch nails
05:17 <@luna_> planks of wood and fireworks
05:17 <@luna_> to the university building
05:17 <@luna_> as well as lighters and cigarretes to use to light the fireworks
05:18 <@luna_> very important sruff
05:18 <@luna_> stuff
05:18 <@luna_> aslo hammers
05:18 <@luna_> fishing rods
05:18 <@luna_> fishing line
05:18 <@luna_> also bring stuff to the 2 barricades
05:18 <@luna_> another dissapeared
05:18 <@luna_> we consider he was taken by copter
05:19 <@luna_> lets find out were our people are
05:19 <@luna_> some went sent to the discotel prison
05:19 <@luna_> others to the warehouse in fron of the petrol station
05:19 <@luna_> some to the airport
05:20 <@luna_> we hae to find out were our people are
05:20 <@luna_> we hae to defend the radio building
05:20 <@luna_> but if they take this bulding
05:20 <@luna_> we will take anotherone
05:20 <@luna_> people are tired of the pri and the pan
05:20 <@luna_> we realised that they are liars
05:20 <@luna_> they might use tanks
05:20 <@luna_> soldiers
05:21 <@luna_> foreigners
05:21 <@luna_> doesnt matter
05:21 <@luna_> we will keep fighting 
05:21 <@luna_> unless the kill us all or imprison us all 
05:21 <@luna_> they wont get rid of us
05:21 <@luna_> so we cal federal government to sit to talk to us
05:21 <@luna_> call
05:22 <@luna_> these news are spreading all over the world
05:22 <@luna_> people from all over the world are calling in
05:22 <@luna_> people will see that justice is made
05:22 <@luna_> so beware
05:22 <@luna_> make a decition
05:23 <@luna_> we call the family of juliverto martinez lopes
05:23 <@luna_> go to the social security
05:23 <@luna_> building
05:23 <@luna_> they will not be able to kill us all
05:23 <@luna_> or imprison us all
05:23 <@luna_> there are not enough prisons
05:24 <@luna_> unless they buid prisons in football satadiums like pinochet did
05:24 <@luna_> what are these senators for
05:24 <@luna_> to guaratte our constitutional rights?
05:24 <@luna_> when they are the first ones to break those rights
05:25 <@luna_> it might take more of our blood 
05:25 <@luna_> but we wil manage it
05:25 <@luna_> from section 22 of the teachers union
05:25 <@luna_> they will not go back to school
05:26 <@luna_> several teachers have been prevented of going back to school
05:26 <@luna_> by pri supporters
05:27 <@luna_> there is also teachers in several states and the capital 
05:27 <@luna_> who will go on stricke
05:28 <@luna_> as well as students  all over the country will probably demonstrate tomorrow
05:28 <@luna_> there are report that the police is searching a clinic
05:28 <@luna_> need confirmation
05:28 <@luna_> of several messages that we have recieved
05:28 <@luna_> we also need to know how good the radio signal is
05:29 <@luna_> we have been advide to use gas bottles to resist the eviction of this building
05:29 <@luna_> all advide is good
05:29 <@luna_> and we are going to remain peaceful
05:30 <@luna_> the famili is of themurdered child is holding a wake
05:30 <@luna_> the news of his murder is spreading around the world
05:31 <@luna_> the wake is next to the monument "to the mother"
05:31 <@luna_> there is also a copter in el cerro del rosario
05:31 <@luna_> and it appears that there is a camp there
05:31 <@luna_> we need to confirm this
05:32 <@luna_> ppl in the barricade of 5 senyores
05:32 <@luna_> are asking for some coffee, please
05:32 <@luna_> can neighbours take some down
05:33 <@luna_> the technology institute of oaxaca is suspending all activisties in solidarity with the resistance
05:33 <@luna_> please call in with any details of arrested and disappeared
05:33 <@luna_> if you;ve seen anything 
05:33 <@luna_> we are building a list
05:34 <@luna_> `reading  a list of dissapeared
05:34 <@luna_> it is amazing that some leaders still use this kind of repression against people in this day and age
05:34 <@luna_> <music>
05:35 <@heth> the road to freedom is a bumpy one
05:36 < pgh_anarchist> we just got in contact with two of our friends from pittsburgh in oaxaca, and they are safe. this makes me happy.
05:39 <@luna_> apparently tv azteca is broadcasting footage of the pfp attack
05:48 <@luna_> evil hackers took over the stream
05:48 < micah> luna_: ?
05:48 <@luna_> ` compas explaining - the people in the chat aka:us
05:49 <@luna_> `why the caos with the stream
05:49 <@luna_> `the different streams and the problems and work they have been doing to make sure we get appo
05:49 <@luna_> ' so they "apoligise"
05:50 <@luna_> ` anway
05:50 <@luna_> check bientos.info/cml
05:51 <@luna_> http://vientos.info/cml
05:51 <@luna_> they are recounting arested
05:51 <@luna_> 20 compas arrested
05:51 <@luna_> one woman raped
05:51 <@luna_> daniel gonzales in charge of the "operation"
05:52 <@luna_> solidarity actions
05:52 <@luna_> in 
05:52 <@luna_> barcelona
05:52 <@luna_> tomorrow
05:52 <@luna_> 5pm NYC
05:52 <@luna_> buenos aires
05:52 <@luna_> and brasil sao paulo
05:53 <@luna_> in mexico
05:53 <@luna_> cuernavaca
05:53 <@luna_> 100 ppl
05:53 <@luna_> san cristobal de las casas, chiapas 7pm
05:53 <@luna_> yesterday
05:54 <@luna_> 300 ppl
05:54 <@luna_> did an action during a cultural event
05:54 <@luna_> also milan
05:54 <@luna_> italy
05:54 <@luna_> and germany
05:55 <@luna_> in DF too
05:55 <@luna_> teachers from oaxaca hace decided not to go back to school
05:56 <@luna_> and a warm salute
05:56 <@luna_> to everyone resisting
05:56 <@luna_> from kehuelga
05:57 <@luna_> kehulega radio, facilitating the radio stream for all of us, together with indy techs
05:58 <@luna_> venceremos
05:58 <@luna_> radio appo
05:59 <@luna_> perhaps you have seen the tv azteca report
05:59 <@luna_> by reporters that where hiding behind the police lines
05:59 <@luna_> telling lies about what was happeing in front of the police
05:59 <@luna_> how can you be so corrupt and lie
05:59 <@luna_> and tell such lies
06:00 <@luna_> where we the people where the agressors
06:00 <@luna_> and the poor police where the abused
06:00 <@luna_> what shameless lies
06:01 <@luna_> i call for people to prevent tv azteca from reporting lies
06:01 <@luna_> they only showed the images of the injured police
06:01 <@luna_> but they dont show our people, our dead 
06:01 <@luna_> our wounded
06:01 <@luna_> this is the reality
06:02 <@luna_> our dead and wounded dont exist
06:02 <@luna_> and an interview
06:02 <@luna_> with a woman 
06:02 <@luna_> that called us badly borned
06:02 <@luna_> you call yourself well borned when you have never protested to stop the hunger
06:02 <@luna_> in this land?
06:03 <@luna_> shame on you
06:03 <@luna_> `can someone take this over?
06:03 <@luna_> `for a while
06:04 < Gordito> luna youve been at this for how many hours?
06:04 <@luna_> how these reporters look like margaret thatcher and people like that
06:04 <@luna_> `nevermind 
06:04 <@luna_> `need to do some stuff
06:05 <@luna_> `can u take over?
06:05 < Gordito> my spanish is to poor to do it sorry
06:05 <@luna_> list of some arrested
06:05 <@luna_> in prison escotel
06:05 <@luna_> some in mahutlan
06:05 <@luna_> some to the warehose near reyes
06:05 <@luna_> warehouse
06:06 <@luna_> please call us and bring in news of the arrested
06:06 <@heth> i should be going...great translation job, luna_, congratulations :)
06:06 <@luna_> they are telling us that after all the merced health building was not beeing serach
06:06 <@luna_> in simatlan
06:06 <@luna_> van fulls of judicial police
06:07 <@luna_> a copter in hacienda blanca
06:07 <@luna_> and a callout to rebuild the barricades
06:07 <@luna_> they take them down we buld them back
06:07 <@luna_> see who gets tired first
06:07 <@luna_> we live here
06:07 <@luna_> we have a problem 
06:08 <@luna_> only send sms to thin number
06:08 <@luna_> we cannot recieve messages on this number
06:08 <@luna_> `congratulations? what did i win- a kick in the ass?
06:08 <@luna_> please keep sending info
06:09 <@luna_> and gilberto martinez lopez's family 
06:09 <@luna_> we need to know if you made it to the hospital where he is being operated
06:09 <@luna_> we also need to know about the people moved to miahutaln
06:09 <@luna_> miahuatlan
06:10 <@luna_> in the suburban vans
06:10 <@luna_> -
06:10 <@luna_> -
06:10 <@luna_> who are now kept int the warehouse in los reyes
06:10 <@luna_> when they move them to the prison
06:10 <@luna_> lets stop those white vans
06:11 <@luna_> eople in the way, san bartolo, etc
06:11 <@luna_> prevent them from leaving and talking them
06:11 <@luna_> list of dissapeare
06:12 <@luna_> alejandro rosa pedro isidro and his child gilberto huriel gerardo said israel juan gerardo saura elisabeth daniel jose manuel gererdo daniel rey isaac mario juan guillermo jesus and pedro
06:13 <@luna_> they are quite a lot
06:13 <@luna_> if one of your relatives has not come back home
06:13 <@luna_> please let us know 
06:13 <@luna_> it is 1:22 am
06:13 <@luna_> the list of dissapeared keep gowing
06:13 <@luna_> growing 
06:13 <@luna_> they have been kidnapped by the police
06:13 <@luna_> from 6 pm 
06:14 <@luna_> fidel sanchez garcia 
06:14 <@luna_> who was murdered
06:14 <@luna_> who "answers"
06:14 <@luna_> to this name
06:14 <@luna_> he has not been claimed
06:14 <@luna_> he is in "genesis" clinic
06:14 <@luna_> he was kill in technology avenue
06:15 <@luna_> also isarael 28 year old
06:15 <@luna_> dissapeared about 4pm
06:15 <@luna_> >music>
06:15 <@luna_> there is a problem, no??
06:15 <@luna_> we have a lot of little problems
06:15 <@luna_> `guess what is the track?
08:23 < kry> ciao
09:21 < thibautcho> radio is down now ?
09:21 < halo> think it's streaming, but noone to translate it  :(
09:21 < halo> it's a huge job
09:28 < thibautcho> where the girl is talking ? oaxaca ?
09:29 < teila> derniers nouvelles d'Oaxaca?
09:39 < teilla> thibautcho je crois  ke se difficile avoir des nouvelles de la bas, comme au mexique c'est 4H00 du mat:/
09:40 < thibautcho> ouai :)
09:40 < thibautcho> on sais jamais c'est plus histoire d'avoir des nouvelles de cette nuit
09:41 < thibautcho> j'arrive pas a savoir si les flic sont plrit le controle de la ville
09:41 < yuri> !solamente una traduccion en français?
09:42 < teilla> http://oaxacalibre.org/libertad/index.php
09:46 < teilla> http://vientos.info/cml/?q=node/5916#comment-427
10:17 < teilla> mais la radio maintenant elle marche...
10:53 < Tubia87> sub
10:53 <@sub> oye
10:53 < Tubia87> hola
13:29 < thibautcho> Le consulat du Mexique à Barcelone est occupé.
13:29 < thibautcho> Environ 50 personnes ont occupé le consulat du Mexique à Barcelone, où elles ont installé 3 tentes ainsi qu une banderole d appui et de soutien aux peuples du Mexique. 
15:42 < steev> 3 marches in 3 differ parts of city, i think
15:42 < steev> 1st point
15:43 < steev> [sounds like a loop, a recording...?]
15:46 < pgh_anarchist> marches start in an hour, correct?
15:58 < steev> station id
16:44 < steev> radio appo has stopped transmitting
16:44 < steev> the stream is ke huelga
16:44 < steev> till appo starts up again
18:59 < linux> hola
19:13 < Alster> http://radio.indymedia.org:8000/appo.mp3.m3u << now switched to 'real' APPO again
19:22 < yuri> does anybody can translate?!
19:22 < yuri> http://radio.indymedia.org:8000/appo.mp3.m3u
19:22 < yuri> APPO is back.
19:22 < yuri> zapatistas de la otra campaña estan en la radio ahora.
19:23 < bossa> thank you yuri
19:24 < yuri> no problem
19:24 < bossa> :)
19:24 < yuri> (:
19:25 < yuri> és necesario personas que pueden traducir de español para ingles. we need people to translate the transmission of radio appo, from spanish to english.
19:57 < ionnek> hi Anna
20:10 < leo> any news?
20:10 < leo> have the marches begun?
20:15 < toya> 12 - 14 years old
20:15 < toya> was stand in the floor
20:16 < toya> the body of a kid
20:16 < toya> they have seen it and they left for a little bit and when they came back 
20:16 < toya> someone have taking the kid away
20:16 < toya> i am not sure if i heard it or not
20:16 < toya> hold on
20:17 < toya> i am not sure isf hwat i am hearing is the thing for sure
20:17 < toya> is out?
20:18 < toya> what is going on i am hearing noises only
20:18 < yuri> noises? really?
20:18 < yuri> here is clean
20:18 < yuri> but i don't understand spanish to well.
20:21 < yuri> *too
20:50 < yuri> hey luna. 
20:50 < yuri> (:
20:50 < yuri> radio appo is back.
20:52 < luna> hi
20:59 < yuri> they're saying that santo domingo is the new point to converge?
21:06 < Vwt2-1967> afp 20 h 17  : .  Les députés mexicains demandent la démission du gouverneur de l'Etat d'Oaxaca
21:31 < leo> raddio is back?
21:31 < leo> whats happening?
21:31 < leo> wue dicen?
21:33 < yuri> radio is back, pero yo no se o que estan a dicer.
21:34 <@boud> trnslation: (en) afp 20h17 - mexican members of parliament are asking for the governor of the state of Oaxaca to resign
21:53 < jolly> radio> there are groups of people committing vandalism in town, but that they are not activists of APPO, but provocateurs, even if they are carrying transparents and shouting 'viva appo' or similiar
23:02 < mahtin> he was talkingabout how they have human rights observers and lawyers
23:02 < mahtin> talkijng about establishing a oaxacan constitution
23:04 < mahtin> giving out phone number
23:04 < mahtin> 9511365557?
23:04 < mahtin> in relation to what is happening in different places and in the city of oaxaca
23:05 < mahtin> we are calling for calm, reminding you that hear in radio universidad we need you to come help us and reinforce the radio 
23:05 < mahtin> it is very, very cold
23:05 < mahtin> if people could bring us something to eat that would be welcomed
23:05 < mahtin> at the zocalo they need these same things
23:05 < zapATIsta> rehi
23:05 < mahtin> today has been calmer
23:05 < zapATIsta> yay
23:06  * zapATIsta is almost calm
23:06 < mahtin> the crimes they are committing against our detainees are...
23:06 < zapATIsta> hard to do much in connecticut
23:06 < mahtin> stop talking, go to #indymedia
23:06 < mahtin> federal crimes
23:06 < mahtin> exerting right to free protest
23:06 < mahtin> survival, inaudible
23:07 < mahtin> we already know what treasures there are in the government? and they don't know what to do
23:07 < mahtin> information about the detained vehicles (buses) and comp@s
23:08 < mahtin> there is news about blocking the streets in new york to condemn the violence in nyc
23:08 < mahtin> they blocked 39th st in manhattan and outside the mex. consulate
23:08 < mahtin> the police...minutes after 10am, some 20 people outside the consulate?
23:09 < mahtin> they broke some windows, they made a link to what is happening in mex
23:09 < mahtin> enlace might be lockdown
23:09 < mahtin> caller: we are working on retaking the zocalo?
23:09 < mahtin> tomorrow we will hve a march, today one started an hour ago, we are really worried
23:10 < mahtin> we are getting organized for getting back out there
23:10 < mahtin> caller- we'll see you soon out there, 1 hour
23:10 < mahtin> new york- there were protests the last 3 days, they intensified after brad will was kille din oaxaca
23:11 < mahtin> there h ave been protests at teh consulate in new york
23:11 < mahtin> unam students have errected barricades demanding the pfp get out of oaxaca and stating their support for appo
23:11 < mahtin> comp@s, reminding you the planton is established in santo domingo
23:11 < mahtin> inaudible
23:12 < mahtin> ...we again invite you cordially to come out and support the radio of the truth, of the people
23:12 < mahtin> yesterday, i think she said canal de las abejas?
23:13 < mahtin> the bees left (?)
23:13 < mahtin> i am missing a lot due to the quality
23:13 < mahtin> the bees were staying awaye ven though they wanted to sting the pfp in the mouth?
23:13 < mahtin> music...
23:13 < mahtin> cut out
23:14 < mahtin> it was something about disappearances in latin america
23:16 < jolly> mahtin: thanks, that helps a lot. ppl may get a bit by themself, i think. just sign 'missing' by posting ... and skip it
23:16 < mahtin> ok
23:26 <@Alster> Some other radios (partially commercial from oaxaca) - Please do not pass these URLs on but use them for your personal information only: http://chili.freeit.org:8000/
23:27 < micah> .~
23:29 < jolly> thx Alster
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00:04 <@Alster> http://radio.indymedia.org:8000/appo.mp3.m3u is transmitting from kehuelga again while APPO is not available
00:22 < mahtin> kehuelga is asking for people from oax to call in and give info
00:22 < mahtin> i missed the number, 3559292?
00:27 <@Alster> appo is back
00:34 < mahtin> it's 6:45 and we're transmitting on radio universidad, the voice ofthe people, etc
00:35 < mahtin> we're looking for some links online to find out exactly what's going, to contact the senators about getting uro out
00:35 < mahtin> talking about a constitutional assembly
00:35 < yuri> that's right!
00:36 < mahtin> the decision to have a constitutional assembly..we defend peaceful mass assemblies....#4 comp@s is very important...this constitutional congress will try to ... build a big structure for our people
00:37 < mahtin> ... bring all the streams of thought together...
00:37 < mahtin> comp@s, colonias, students, indigenas, workers (people from all walks of life)
00:37 < mahtin> we will look for the documents to make us able to participate in the constitutional assembly
00:38 < mahtin> it's not enough to get uro out, we have to re-build the forms, the ways of communicating, the new ways of doing politics, transform...this struggle has to win the demands of the people of Oax
00:38 < mahtin> we have to keep going, economic and po ltical changes, all the problems that we live with every day in Oax
00:39 < mahtin> we have to change an injust society that criminalizes, punishes, etc
00:39 < mahtin> the persecuted, tortured, disappeared comp@s, running through names of 2 people who reappeared
00:39 < mahtin> they say there were not tortured
00:40 < mahtin> although teachers and community members have been beaten in local prisons
00:40 < mahtin> these 2 were in channel 9, fighting, struggling against the pfp
00:40 < mahtin> sorry i keep missing the names
00:40 < mahtin> phonecall
00:40 < mahtin> i cannot hear it
00:44 < mahtin> i hear things about wanting a peaceful solution...
00:46 < mahtin> it's a conversation with a senator (ramon jana? jarra?)
00:51 < yuri> no problem, mahtin. you're doing great. i'm terrible in translate from spanish.
00:54 < yuri> stream of radio appo is down.
00:56 < jebba> dmmit
00:58 < mahtin> not the first tme in the last hour
01:00 < mahtin> back
01:02 < mahtin> ineed a nap
01:02 < mahtin> just listed several names of people who were severely beaten yesterday
01:03 < mahtin> 110 lightbulbs needed
01:03 < mahtin> ?
01:03 < mahtin> need people to come defend the station from people who want to destroy our voice
01:06 < yuri> fuck!
01:06 < yuri> whats fucking happening???!
01:06 < mahtin> sounds like it might be drivebys
01:06 < mahtin> people please come out and defend us
01:06 < mahtin> i don't understand the jutones or whatever she is sayinhg
01:07 < mahtin> bring whatever you can, a broom even
01:07 < mahtin> this is an urgent call
01:07 < mahtin> there is an attack that is trying to destroy this radio station
01:08 < mahtin> unam students should communicate with fellow unam students to tellt hem what is happening, what happened to certain students
01:09 < mahtin> filamtents for reflectors/lightbulbs are urgently needede
01:09 < mahtin> let's build a big cordon, a big barrier to protect radio universidad
01:10 < mahtin> this very important means of communication
01:10 < mahtin> let's put on some music, no nos moveran
01:11 < mahtin> we are asking for reinforcements, the pfp is here on 5 Sen~ores
01:11 < mahtin> we need any people who can get near here to come really fast
01:11 < mahtin> they are porros
01:12 < mahtin> from pres. santa lucia
01:12 < mahtin> they are trying to get us out of here
01:12 < mahtin> please come to the radio station to defend it and keep us here in the struggle
01:12 < mahtin> radio univ is a symbol of the people's struggle...
01:13 < mahtin> we have nearly won the struggle, but don't let them quiet our voice
01:13 < mahtin> the struggle of the university students is really important, we have to keep it going
01:13 < mahtin> we need you to come down here to radio univ (peacefully), people of Oaxaca
01:13 < mahtin> we need your physical presence
01:14 < mahtin> tomorrow could be too late
01:14 < mahtin> again we invite you, we tell you that these are porros in uro's services...
01:15 < mahtin> 7:31 pm here at radio univ de oaxaca studios
01:15 < mahtin> the latest news...
01:16 < mahtin> talking about the planton in the zocalo
01:16 < mahtin> tomorrow in plaza de santo domingo
01:16 < mahtin> for a day of mourning
01:17 < mahtin> it is an action of peaceful resistance
01:17 < mahtin> bring whatever offerings you can
01:17 < mahtin> the plenary will be tomorrow at 10 
01:18 < mahtin> at the union hall, missed the name
01:18 < mahtin> someone int he background just whistled
01:20 < mahtin> so day of mourning and appo plenary tomorrow
01:20 < mahtin> urgently calling for people to defend radio univ
01:21 < mahtin> our correspondents from different parts of the city say the pfp
01:21 < mahtin> has detained comp@s
01:21 < mahtin> go to parque del amor
01:21 < mahtin> the pfp is not coming to radio univ
01:22 < mahtin> right now
01:22 < mahtin> those armed people with red shirts who are supposedly coming here, but our people who see them out there in their trucks should come here...?
01:22 < mahtin> to "counterarrest" them
01:23 < mahtin> with serenity, love, etc to help us keep the peopel informed
01:23 < mahtin> the pfp is detained it isnto advancing, they are the porros
01:23 < mahtin> who are trying to attack us, our barricades
01:23 < mahtin> we have to guard the r.u. installations
01:24 < mahtin> a los comp@s, please form parapets to defend yourselves
01:24 < mahtin> don't use rocks, etc
01:24 < mahtin> ellos no pasaran- they will not pass
01:25 < mahtin> everyone out there listening please come defend us
01:25 < mahtin> we are awating a link with the comp@s at radio planton
01:25 < mahtin> so we can get a report from different places where people are
01:26 < mahtin> 7:42 here at radio univ
01:26 < mahtin> please come out, conscious studnets have put themselves at the service of the people of oax
01:27 < mahtin> those hateful porros could have guns, please protect yourselves, watch their movements, etc
01:27 < mahtin> shit giving out numbers very fast
01:28 < mahtin> we have to locate ourselves in strategic locations to protect ourselves from those porros
01:28 < mahtin> if you are at a barricade and aren't facing major problems, please come down here
01:29 < mahtin> you have to react immediately if they attack
01:29 < mahtin> strategic locatiosn will allow us to resist
01:30 < mahtin> all the comp@s who are here and give us info by telephone, all the neighbors, please let us know and protect us from the suspicious people, we will do a peaceful mass protest to resist,a nd they will not pass
01:30 < mahtin> bus and truck movements
01:30 < mahtin> have been seen
01:31 < mahtin> we ask for calm, patience, organization, discipline, tranquilos, etc
01:31 < mahtin> still awaiting the linkup with comp@s to hear what the environment is out there
01:32 < mahtin> we ask all the studnets and workers to come out and protect the university
01:33 < mahtin> listing all the different tracks of study-- all of you please come out
01:33 < mahtin> we will comeback with reports about the mobilizations in our city
01:33 < mahtin>  music should be coming on
01:34 < mahtin> for all the comp@s who are in love, etc...
01:34 < mahtin> we are right now in the communication school
01:34 < mahtin> we got info about the security system
01:34 < mahtin> we have identified the people who are trying to provoke the people's movement
01:35 < mahtin> alarcon, de la croc, missed it, quintar, ex-pres of a colonia, other people who could infiltrate...
01:35 < mahtin> these people plan to add themselves to the pfp's efforts
01:35 < mahtin> and provoke attacks, etc
01:36 < mahtin> inform radio univ about where the bad guys are moving around in the city
01:36 < mahtin> (music)
01:43 < mahtin> (still music)
01:46 < yuri> wait
01:46 < mahtin> back
01:46 < mahtin> we have a link with our comp@s
01:47 < mahtin> good evneing, how are you...
01:47 < mahtin> can't hear
01:47 < mahtin> i want to tell the comp@s who are responding tot he action of the federal gov't (cut out)
01:48 < mahtin> back
01:49 < mahtin> cut out again
01:54 < mahtin> ok so they named three porros again
01:54 < mahtin> there are groups of porros at the service of the pri that basically have us under siege, they are taking the university's financial resources
01:55 < mahtin> again a call to the students to respond to these offenses (? against hte people of oax
01:56 < mahtin> ya basta, in these moments we have to rise up against the porros, etc
01:56 < mahtin> by 10am the gov't owrkers will have a march
01:56 < mahtin> enough hearing ruiz ortiz's name
01:56 < mahtin> mobilization calling on uro to get out
01:56 < mahtin> the march will leave the 7 regiones(?) bridge ...missed the time
01:57 < mahtin> ok another linkup (phonecall) is coming up
01:57 < mahtin> comp@s we are indignated about these porros out there, we are really mad about what they are doing to our univ, trying to sack us and etc
01:58 < mahtin> we demand that the federal gov't improve the infrastruture, etc...students, come out and defend public education
01:58 < mahtin> we can't keep going to class while they do these things to us, while they are so corrupt
01:58 < mahtin> let's not be afraid oft he porros
01:59 < mahtin> in name of students, come out and defend the people, etc
02:00 < mahtin> i am really indignant, bothered, cuz we have to wake up, it's time to wake up
02:00 < mahtin> we are seeing what is happening heere, we can't go to school ina normal way...
02:01 < mahtin> we have to transform the way the school is run
02:01 < mahtin> the students are coming together again, the student sector shoudl come out like it did 30 years ago, and get uro out
02:02 < mahtin> this university is like the last one in terms of federal gov't money given
02:02 < mahtin> not enough books, laboratories, etc
02:03 < mahtin> there ar tehings that we should fight for and (expose) as students
02:03 < mahtin> we should demand the ouster of the repressive gov't of uro
02:03 < mahtin> the porros that are coming, their chief goal is not the radio univ, it is to attack the federal police so they can justify the repression against appo and the students and radio univ.
02:04 < mahtin> the people have identified the ones who have violated union law... (?)
02:04 < mahtin> neighbors, it is very important to take over simbolos patrios,
02:05 < mahtin> the barricade at (name?)
02:05 < mahtin> bodies, like groups of porros are coming to provoke
02:05 < mahtin> so we have to strengthen those barricades
02:05 < mahtin> like 5 Sen~ores
02:05 < mahtin> come running and help out
02:06 < mahtin> we are demonstrating, proving, that our resistance is peaceful
02:06 < mahtin> ...
02:07 < mahtin> hey have plainly identified the porros, the ones responsible for the killing of the american journalist
02:07 < mahtin> the ones who would provoke the pfp are juan luis de la croc?
02:07 < mahtin> armando castillo de santa maria
02:07 < mahtin> miguel quintana de santa cruz.. (?)
02:08 < mahtin> telling a sotry abouit the santa maria guy
02:08 < mahtin> urgent that this person communicate with sister
02:08 < mahtin>  maria antonio perez tomaz
02:08 < mahtin> and abram fernandez
02:08 < mahtin> the family of sr. gonzalo aguilar de la reforma agraria
02:08 < mahtin> don't worry, he's in jail
02:09 < mahtin> the family of sr gonzalo aguilar he is in the jail at meyohuatlan (?)
02:09 < mahtin> please tell his family he is in jail
02:09 < mahtin> gerardo...de las rosas, 23 years old, was detained int he parque del amor, he works in the zone 61
02:09 < mahtin> they tell us he is in (same jail as above?)
02:10 < mahtin> to all the relatives of the disappeared and the dead, the assassinated
02:10 < mahtin> and the injured, beaten, imprisoned
02:10 < mahtin> go to the national human rights commission
02:10 < mahtin> ramon calizan? and ? reyes
02:10 < mahtin> go there and start investigating where these people are
02:10 < mahtin> all these people detained, with strange charges
02:11 < mahtin> in 5 senores and the zocalo
02:11 < mahtin> these relatives of gonzalo aguillar and the delas rosas guy and reyes
02:11 < mahtin> and the othres, put yourdemand and denouncement at the human rights commission
02:11 < mahtin> there are 5 trucks of pfp 
02:11 < mahtin> thank you comp@s for stopping them
02:12 < mahtin> an important notice
02:12 < mahtin> ...
02:12 < mahtin> a resolution (parliamentary?) about radio mapache
02:12 < yuri> yes
02:14 < mahtin> the political effects are clear...
02:14 < mahtin> i am out
02:16 < yuri> the compañera is talkin about the porros who's shooting insurgent people and the maestros.
02:18 < yuri> they are talking that the porro's are trying to create chaos to justify the action of PFP
02:19 < yuri> still talking i think a little bit who are the porro's, what they do, saying that they're from right-wing etc.
02:32 < yuri> *stream of radio appo is down*
02:40 < micah> jebba: looks like the source is down
02:40 < micah> err, didn't mean to just say jebba :)
04:36 < micah> appo is back
04:36 < gus> http://radio.indymedia.org:8000/appo.mp3
04:36 < gus> http://radio.indymedia.org:8000/appo.mp3
04:37 < gus> they are talking about infiltred inside the university
04:37 < gus> that ppl are around with cars
04:37 < gus> and they are provocating the police
04:39 < gus> the ppl identify the color of the car
04:39 < gus> that were doing that.
04:40 < gus> there are 3 cars!
04:40 < gus> be alert companeros
04:40 < gus> tomorrow will happen a PRIIST march
04:40 < yuri> yes. 10am
04:41 < gus> and some radios will support it
04:41 < gus> 5 Senores is a key-point to acess the university!
04:42 < gus> we need to put "pregos"(clavos) in the ground to stop that cars
04:42 < gus> (i understood right?)
04:43 < gus> music now
04:43 < gus> (i didnt get the phone radio)
04:43 < yuri> (maybe. it makes sense)
04:50 < Gordito> is that radio appo streaming?
04:51 < gus> yes
04:51 < Gordito> they havent been shut down yet?
04:52 < gus> nope
04:52 < Gordito> thats amazing...i thought for sure it would be down by now
04:52 < gus> (another music)
04:52 < gus> we return streaming
04:53 < gus> many telephones were blocked
04:53 < gus> 23:00 (mex)
04:53 < gus> many msgs are coming
04:53 < gus> all around oaxaca
04:54 < gus> do not allow they get water...that water is to repress the ppl
04:57 < gus> the human rights is moving around
04:58 < gus> San pablo - one unity of pfp is around. Companeros have to stop it!
04:59 < mahtin> today were on high alert and we have to communicate
05:00 < yuri> great, mahtin!
05:01 < mahtin> greetings to the folksa t the barricade at 5 sen~ores
05:01 < mahtin> and to the "gatos gordos..."
05:01 < gus> barricades 5 senores - they are still resisting pacific
05:02 < mahtin> pacificamente=peacefully
05:02 < mahtin> we are giving you precise information
05:02 < mahtin> there have been increasing incidents and the police are focusing on certain barricades?
05:03 < mahtin> they are showing something about the zocalo
05:03 < mahtin> i'm not sure he's making sense
05:03 < mahtin> we are disappointed by this situation
05:04 < mahtin> saluting the nurses, doctors, medics at 7 principes
05:04 < mahtin> basically sending shout-outs to everyone
05:04 < mahtin> music
05:04 < Gordito> what was that about not drinking the water?
05:04 < mahtin> chats in indymedia
05:05 < mahtin> not this channel
07:09 < psuedo> hey all
07:09 < psuedo> can anyone please help me tune radio appo?
07:09 < psuedo> no link seem to work
07:10 < zapATIsta> the one that usually works fine for me doesn't currently. they might be off the air for a while.
07:11 < psuedo> $ hablas español?
07:11 < psuedo> $
07:11 < psuedo> $
07:13 < zapATIsta> un poquito. mi espanol sux0rs. lo siento. disculpame. :\
07:14 < psuedo> no problem
07:14 < psuedo> its just that i thought you would speak spanish because of your nick
07:14 < zapATIsta> heh
11:26 < toya> oi
15:01 < yuri> radio APPO esta de vuelta.
15:03 < toya> ah
15:03 < toya> !
15:29 < Gordito> Can someone translate or summarize what is going on?
15:31 < steev> i just started listening but i think they're saying
15:31 < steev> don't respond to provocation
15:32 < steev> docuement, take photos, etc, but don't respond with violence during the march
15:32 < steev> there are disappearances and wounded....
15:33 < steev> a caller
15:54 < yuri> oi
15:58 < Gordito> anyone getting any of this pro governent marchhe ading towards thue university
16:00 < Gordito> luna youre back thank god
16:02 < luna> there is no god
16:04 < Gordito> i agree but its an expression sheesh
16:18 < luna> Gordito, i prefer the more accurate 'thank sheesh'... nobody can argue with that ;)
16:19 < luna> fuck
16:19 < luna> jst teasing
16:19 < luna> saludos rebeldes gordito
16:21 < Gordito> luna who do you pray to when you play nintendo
16:24 < luna> wow! nice one
17:07 < Gordito> Anyone know whats goin on on radio appo
17:08 < jolly_> radio> ppl are called to join the march and to come to santo domingo
17:09 < jolly_> and not to join but avoid and cut out the groups of provocateurs around in town
17:10 < luna> house searches
17:37 < yuri> hola
17:38 < yuri> bamzin
18:08 < yuri> does anybody knows whats this woman is talkin about?
18:08 < yuri> against the motherfuckers priistas?
18:09 < toya> 15:02 < toya> 40 ppl in the embassy of mexico in brasilia - lots of cops and they 
18:09 < toya>               are not letting the ppl to get close of it
18:09 < toya> 15:03 < toya> 60 ppl in the consulate of mexico in sao paulo - indymedia tried to 
18:09 < toya>               talk with the conusl but the government of mexico didnt let him talk  
18:09 < toya>               and they gave a note (full of bullshit)
18:40 < mahtin> there is a missing woman teacher from friday
18:40 < mahtin> they are asking for phone calls about what happened to her
18:42 < mahtin> (missing) please get to the area of santo domingo and don't respond to police provocation
18:42 < yuri> thanks, mahtin.
18:45 < mahtin> then i got on the phone and she was saying something about bringing photos somewhere at 5:30
18:48 < mahtin> a compa from the 5 sen~ores barricade is in the studio
18:48 < mahtin> greetings, etc
18:49 < mahtin> the pfp is detaining peopel in the zocalo without an order?
18:49 < mahtin> without an arrest order
18:50 < mahtin> if you have videos of the aggression of the pfp or whatever documentation bring it to the human rights commission
18:51 < mahtin> hot greetings, strong hugs, we are an heroic people...
18:51 < mahtin> host is asking what the schedule is
18:51 < mahtin> 24 hours per day they are violating our human rights, constitutional rights
18:52 < mahtin> host asks peopel from santo domingo camp, they need paint
18:53 < mahtin> certain amounts of each color (for banners?)
18:53 < yuri> yellow, blue, green, orange, black
18:53 < yuri> for carpets, i think.
18:53 < mahtin> 30-35kgs
18:54 < mahtin> 5:00 at santo domingo, with sand 
18:54 < mahtin> 2:30...?
18:54 < mahtin> caller: 
18:55 < mahtin> (inaudible)
18:57 < mahtin> host: materials are needed...
18:57 < mahtin> asking for people to list names of n eighbors who are being vandals, priistas, porros, etc
18:57 < mahtin> cuz this is about justice
18:57 < mahtin> at camp at santo domingo they will make tapetes and offerings, materials are needed
18:58 < mahtin> 4:00 at santo domingo
18:58 < mahtin> the trucks should bring sand, shovels, paint,everythingneeded for offerings
18:58 < mahtin> flowers, etc
18:59 < mahtin> here at radio univ. we are building our offering
18:59 < mahtin> at cross street 5 sen~ores, santo domingo, and other places int he city
18:59 < mahtin> making an offering for our dead, our assassinated loved ones
19:00 < mahtin> they are telling us taht the water trucks were throwing out water that had a paint that can only be seen at night
19:00 < mahtin> and that it lasts 40 days on your skin
19:00 < mahtin> please take a lot of precautions so you won't get detained
19:00 < mahtin> ...?inaudible
19:01 < mahtin> senators will arrive tomorrow
19:02 < mahtin> families of the disappeared at 5:30, bring photos, infoa bout what happened
19:02 < mahtin> at 40th st? today
19:02 < mahtin> again, help at the barricades (we will put up?)
19:03 < schock> remember that if you take away the barricades we will put them back
19:03 < mahtin> if we could get a little (audio) recorder for when the pfp come
19:03 < mahtin> take pictures of them
19:03 < mahtin> and record them when you see them
19:03 < mahtin> as women we have to be vigilant so they don't rape us
19:04 < mahtin> outside of an office (name?)
19:04 < mahtin> there isa sign, appo meets here, and there are porros outside?
19:04 < mahtin> 51 45 298
19:05 < mahtin> i think that's the human rights number- yes
19:06 < mahtin> we are asking you to bring us photos and videos of the acts that the pfp committed for the senate commissoin on human rights that is coming up
19:06 < mahtin> there's a comp@ wh ohas been (rosario ubarra?) working for human rights for a long time
19:07 < mahtin> we need a lot of support for her to defend us- especially the video and photos
19:07 < mahtin> it's important to "arm" ourselves so she can demonstrate the human rights violations
19:07 < mahtin> we are going to have a music break
19:07 < yuri> :)
19:11 < mahtin> we are conserving some cell phones for later
19:11 < mahtin> thank you to the people of oaxaca for their very important cooperation in bringing us phones- now we need cards
19:12 < mahtin> the people at the santo domingo camp have taken necessary steps to protect and take care oft hem to protect that building that is so important to oaxacans
19:12 < mahtin> missed name, mr. santo ruiz?  missing since friday, he's about 60 years old, contact his family
19:12 < mahtin> 51 10844 missed next number
19:12 < mahtin> too fast
19:13 < mahtin> 110 41 62 messages (this could be wrong)
19:13 < mahtin> those are the numbers to call radio univ
19:14 < mahtin> the secretary of the section 35 of health...villanueva, could people come help the comp@s- the level of intimidation to not march...
19:14 < mahtin> they are very generous in calling us
19:14 < mahtin> marco villanueva at health dept - communicate with him
19:15 < mahtin> guest: we want to call all peopel out to the barricade...?
19:15 < mahtin> at 3pm the comp@s are going to meet to prepare the dia de los muertos tapete (day of the dead)
19:15 < mahtin> and we will bring materials to make it all on 3rd barricade on somethingsanto
19:16 < mahtin> at 3rd barricade, that's where the priistas repressed us
19:17 < mahtin> in memory of the companera, where she died, therewill be an offering
19:17 < mahtin> national human rights commission is set up at 5 senores cross st
19:18 < mahtin> something about male nurse who was killed...4pm gathering...canal 9 barricade
19:18 < mahtin> they need help for his widow?  radio cut out
19:19 < mahtin> 3pm please be there to start work
19:19 < mahtin> national human rights commission set up at cross of 5 senores, cut out again
19:23 < mahtin> inaudible
19:24 < mahtin> i think they are talking about who the porros are...
19:26 < mahtin> i have heard mention of radio mapache and ciudad juarex
19:26 < yuri> he's talkin something like  that thanks all these struggle they can keep the flame alive.
19:26 < mahtin> what was the thing about tomorrow
19:27 < mahtin> hasta la victoria...
19:28 < mahtin> calling to teachers from coastal region to communicate with us and tell us about what happened at the government house
19:28 < mahtin> lola avendano, we are trying to locate her (a teacher)
19:29 < mahtin> her family:"5155471
19:29 < mahtin> esp 164 school zone - those are the peoples who would know what happened to her
19:29 < mahtin> in higuera?
19:29 < mahtin> another caller:
19:33 < mahtin> ...i was doing other things so i missed this
19:35 < mahtin> ok there was something about the barricades- i think at 5 sen~ores
19:35 < mahtin> don't have unncecessary confrontations
19:35 < mahtin> we are all necessary in defending the barricades
19:36 < mahtin> every single one of us is important to this movement- we don't want any more injured, killed, detained, disappeared, etc
19:37 < mahtin> ...
19:37 < mahtin> talking about past resistance, guerrilla resistance in mexico
19:38 < mahtin> we are a peaceful resistance, with the most intelligence
19:38 < mahtin> we don't accept provocation, we document all the actions of the pfp, etc
19:38 < mahtin> a good piece of news
19:38 < mahtin> 60 poeple are protesting at mexican consulate in san paulo brazil
19:39 < mahtin> 12 people detained in a protest, there are right now 25 countries mobilizing
19:39 < mahtin> and in many different languages, all the info about our movement is getting out there on free media
19:39 < mahtin> (ie, indymedia)
19:39 < mahtin> so we are getting out there to the whole worl
19:40 < mahtin> around 10am at _ of flores, the ministry types were sweeping up...?
19:40 < mahtin> they had a la jornada newspaper
19:41 < mahtin> we were beaten and detained and thanks to society and the people's intervention we were released
19:41 < mahtin> i missed his name
19:41 < mahtin> i don't know ifi t is also a sin to have a child out here...
19:42 < mahtin> this guy didn't have the virtue, the intelligence...these people don't hve the sensibility to follow/participate in this struggle, it's awful
19:42 < mahtin> we are going to keep going tonight
19:42 < mahtin> host- they called with an update on the hunger strikers
19:42 < mahtin> they are really anguished about you guys
19:43 < mahtin> tell your son that you are free and resisting
19:43 < mahtin> guest- they have all my support
19:43 < mahtin> host- we are hearing this comp@, a teacher, and about his family in the sturggle
19:43 < mahtin> they were being beaten (in cara libre?) and they were set free
19:44 < mahtin> thanks to the intervention of fellow teachers and society
19:44 < mahtin> guest- my son is alan barush? ??? - he is on the hunger strike
19:45 < mahtin> host- he looks ok, hopefully he is ok...
19:45 < mahtin> he should go see a medic at a health station if he needs help
19:45 < mahtin> your dad is fine is the message to the son
19:45 < mahtin> guest- i want to invite all the people fromt he section 22 (or 42?)
19:45 < mahtin> ok teacher, hasta la victoria siempre, music break
19:51 < mahtin> back, a phone call
19:51 < mahtin> inaudible, more than usual
20:01 < mahtin> ok we have a compan~era
20:02 < luna> she is talking about how brad
20:02 < luna> was very combative
20:02 < luna> one of themselves
20:02 < luna> always with them
20:02 < luna> they lived with them
20:03 < luna> more "oaxaca" than the very oaxaca natives
20:03 < luna> and they are thanking him for giving his life for them
20:03 < rUUd> i understand a little spanish
20:03 < luna> and asking
20:03 < luna> people in oaxaca to build
20:03 < luna> an altar
20:04 < luna> to bring down materials
20:04 < luna> to build it
20:04 < luna> they admire him
20:04 < luna> and are left with his example
20:04 < luna> `she is crying
20:04 < luna> but she is crying not because she is afraid
20:04 < luna> but out of anger and courage
20:04 < luna> they dont have weapons
20:04 < luna> unlike the animals of the police
20:05 < luna> she was wth brad
20:05 < luna> ppl attacked thm when they where 
20:05 < luna> gathering food
20:05 < luna> and then were attacked
20:05 < luna> there were children and women
20:06 < luna> and people came down to support the people in the barride
20:06 < luna> where brad was
20:06 < luna> when so many people turned up
20:06 < luna> the priistas fled
20:06 < luna> and everyone run after them 
20:06 < luna> and then suddebly they started to shoot
20:06 < luna> to shoot everyone
20:07 < luna> and that is where brad was killed
20:07 < luna> asking everyone to go down to build the altar
20:07 < luna> and take pics and send them to his family
20:08 < luna> `over
20:12 < mahtin> flavio montes ruiz is missing, please call us and tell us where he is
20:14 < mahtin> pleasedon't bring us any more cell phones, we now have enough, thank you so much
20:14 < mahtin> now what we need is materials to "arm" the offerings at santo domingo and radio univ and 5 sen~ores
20:14 < mahtin> we want to have big big offerings/altars
20:14 < luna> now lets buid the altar, have enough mobiles
20:14 < mahtin> wedding flowers, chocolate, we are going to correctly honor our dead
20:15 < luna> lets properly honour our dead
20:15 < mahtin> we need phone cards for the clel phones
20:15 < mahtin> ok, luna i leave it to you
20:15 < luna> no mahtin, am making a fucking leaflet
20:15 < luna> !
20:19 < mahtin> ok they need reinforcements at the canal 9 barricade
20:20 < mahtin> i think they wree reading a statement from radio mapache for a bit
20:21 < mahtin> 8:30 tomorrow at santo domingo they want the magistry delegation there at the planton (?)
20:23 < mahtin> the relatives of disappeared and killed shoudl go at 5:30 today so canal 40 will report on the situation
20:23 < mahtin> our compas on hunger strike, not so sick, alan's father was on-
20:24 < mahtin> please don't worry about the beating that your dad got...
20:24 < mahtin> please be careful, hunger strikers, cuz there may be an operative around you or your families
20:24 < mahtin> musical pause
20:30 < mahtin> i am sorry i am on the phone
20:31 < luna> `ok
20:31 < luna> what we produce mut be for ourselves
20:32 < luna> 510844 this phone has been taken down
20:32 < luna> if ppl think its a good idea to boycott the telco
20:32 < luna> 9515275624
20:32 < luna> 9511246941
20:33 < luna> 9511104172
20:33 < sw> lol
20:33 < luna> `bingo
20:33 < luna> thats their working numbers
20:34 < luna> the university
20:34 < luna> to the governemnt
20:34 < luna> to the university
20:34 < rUUd> the numbers of killings in iraq?
20:34 < luna> to the people
20:34 < luna> reglare
20:34 < luna> the only way to get out of this
20:34 < luna> is talking
20:34 < luna> nothing justifies violence
20:34 < luna> so please reject provocations
20:35 < luna> we reject any attempt of the public force from breking into the university
20:35 < luna> `this is a statement from the university authorities....
20:35 < sw> `public force?
20:36 < luna> police breaking in would make things worse
20:36 < luna> signed by all university directors
20:36 < luna> and a lot of teachers
20:36 < luna> so
20:36 < luna> -back to talking to dialogue
20:37 < luna> -rejection of state forces violence
20:37 < luna> - rejection of any attempt of evicting appo from university
20:37 < luna> ` they are off air
20:38 < luna> `white noise
20:38 < rUUd> :(
20:39 < mahtin> so sad
20:56 < luna> `some ought to have a look at that radio transmitor
21:02 < mahtin> i called them and it sounded like they thought they would be right back on
21:04 < mahtin> that was like 10 minutes ago
21:15 < thibautcho>  http://68.178.153.169:8100/
21:15 < thibautcho> <fierman> radio bemba
21:15 < thibautcho> <fierman> they have phonecallers right NOW
21:15 < thibautcho> <fierman> from demonstration
21:23 < fierman> anyone listening? i barely understand a thing
21:24 < Anna> I'M AGAIN COLLECTING LINKS FOR https://docs.indymedia.org/edit/Global/BradWillandothersDeadinOaxaca - IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING PLEASE QUERY ME
21:28 < guest-es> http://uruguay.indymedia.org/news/2006/10/55606.php
21:50 < alduX> hola
21:50 < alduX> http://uruguay.indymedia.org/news/2006/10/55606.php
22:00 < alduX> hola
22:01 < mahtin> chat en #indymedia
22:01 < alduX> AlduX de Uruguay
22:01 < alduX> disculpame
22:01 < alduX> pero yo filmé con Brad
22:02 < alduX> ta?
22:02 < alduX> es por eso que entre
22:02 < alduX> soy de CMI Brasil
22:02 < alduX> y de radio La Blanqueada FM
22:02 < alduX> estamos escuchando su transmisión
22:03 < alduX> fuerza!!!
22:03 < alduX> chau
22:14 < mahtin> corner glorieta/5 sen~ores needs support, more sand, someone is trying to get thru...
22:31 < Gordito> Can someone tell us what is goin on on radio appo
23:18 < AlduX> http://www.radiolivre.org/files/1%20-no%20me%20callo%20nada.gif
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00:07 < mahtin> anyone who is worried about someone who is disappeared, go to the hotel magisterio after 8am
00:07 < mahtin> then they can all work together to solve the problem of the disappeared
00:10 < Devin_> that's a good idea. 
00:10 < mahtin> that is what they said on the radio
00:36 < ionnek> good night.
00:36 < ionnek> thanks all for translating
01:37 < M02> OAXACA, Mexico, Oct. 30 — As federal riot police hunkered down in Oaxaca’s main square today, protesters sought to protect their not-so-secret weapon in their five-month-long siege of the city: the pilfered radio transmitter they use to mobilize the population. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/30/world/americas/31mexicocnd.html?ex=1319864400&en=ff8cd073ceaf6960&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
01:39 < yuri> haha
01:39 < yuri> shit.
01:40 < yuri> they're fucking funny.
03:23 < luna> 	luna	pfp moving in
03:23 < luna> 	luna	cleaning barricades
03:23 < luna> 	luna	callout to defend university radio
03:23 < luna> 	luna	ALERTA ROJA
03:24 < luna> pfp is trying to clean avenida universidad
03:24 < luna> `street that leads towards university
03:25 < luna> trying to confirm
03:25 < luna> that the police is clearing barricades
03:26 < luna> radio asking barricades to call in with info
03:26 < luna> pfp went in secretaria de finanzas
03:26 < luna> clearing the barricade there
03:27 < luna> we must get out to the streets with out neighbours 
03:27 < luna> and fortify our barricades
03:27 < luna> the night is starting
03:27 < luna> and cowardly the police attack
03:27 < luna> `Tuesday, October 31, 2006 at 9:38:38
03:28 < luna> pm
03:28 < luna> we cant leave behind 
03:28 < luna> all the repression that our compa?eros 
03:28 < luna> have suffered
03:28 < luna> the dead, the injured
03:28 < luna> we cant allow it
03:28 < luna> tomorros is the day of the dead
03:28 < luna> santa lucia del camino
03:28 < luna> they are arresting people there
03:29 < luna> we must go get ready to recieve this damn repressor
03:29 < luna> repressors
03:36 < luna> they say that people are afraid of their houses being broken into and searched ( which goes with a beating, or rape )
03:36 < luna> we are tired
03:36 < luna> but we must resist
03:36 < luna> but how long have we been fighting?
03:36 < luna> we cant let it go now
03:36 < luna> we are close to victory
08:44  * sub is away: into the fourth dimension
16:42 < luna> the only way out to this confrontation
16:42 < luna> is that that viper, uro is sacked
16:43 < luna> we have to get together tonight
16:43 < luna> forward
16:43  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 10:54:16 AM CST
16:43 < luna> i agree with appo, 
16:43 < luna> been in the barricades
16:43 < luna> etc
16:44 < luna> i agree ULO should be sacked
16:44 < luna> but i dont agree that sosa shoud take his place
16:44 < luna> --
16:44 < luna> um
16:44 < luna> but noone has said this!! noone in appo
16:44 < luna> in no assembly
16:44 < luna> ive never heards this
16:45 < luna> --
16:45 < luna> well whatever, i respect you but this guy is a blood sucker
16:45 < luna> or the movement
16:45 < luna> is a viva la vida
16:45 < luna> dnt trust him
16:45 < luna> many people are aginst this guy
16:46 < luna> am noone to critisize anyone
16:46 < luna> but we have to start from zero
16:46 < luna> after ulises, fox has to go
16:46 < luna> ---
16:46 < luna> good, that is your id
16:47 < luna> we must stay together first, ULO out
16:47 < luna> then we all choose what we get
16:47 < luna> have meetings, etc
16:48 < luna> ---
16:48 < luna> one thing 
16:48 < luna> we are full to the brim with suppies
16:48 < luna> people have been sending a lot of food
16:48 < luna> there is food everywhere here
16:48 < luna> so if anyone needs some
16:48 < luna> call by or ring
16:48 < luna> ---
16:49 < luna> appo comunique
16:49 < luna> appo keeps fighting and call for the people to continue peaceful resistance
16:49 < luna> we say to our leaders we wil carry on fighting and talking
16:49 < luna> doing politics
16:49 < luna> our prisoners must be out
16:50 < luna> while the occupying forces stay here, we keep fighting
16:50 < luna> we call for barricades to be built
16:50 < luna> as a legitimate defence meassure
16:51 < luna> and if police turns up - everyone decide what to do by themselves
16:51 < luna> lets keep resisting
16:51 < luna> in DF the hunger strickers in juarez continue
16:51 < luna> raise a barricades anywhere
16:52 < luna> we demand from nations that have trade agreements with mexico
16:52 < luna> to suspend them until mexico respects human rights
16:52 < luna> ---
16:52 < luna> there is a call for a demo in the whole country to all groups
16:52 < luna> to mobilise on the 5th on mexico
16:53 < luna> 1 and 2 of nov
16:53 < luna> before the PFP camp
16:53 < luna> day of the dead demo
16:53 < luna> in front of the base of the occupying forces
16:53 < luna> ---
16:54 < luna> priista supporter go in front of the pfp to remove barricades
16:54 < luna> appo 
16:54 < luna> agrees that people get back into talks with otra campanya and other networks and movements
16:54 < luna> today
16:55 < luna> some actress
16:55 < luna> has gotten in touch and told them that yesterday 
16:55 < luna> some NGOs have organised a caravan to arrive ( or leave oaxaca on the 9th
16:55 < luna> what appo is doing
16:55 < luna> find a plan of strategy to
16:55 < luna> get rid of uro
16:56 < luna> plan to fortify barricades
16:56 < luna> go to all foreign embassies
16:56 < luna> boycott trade agreements
16:56 < luna> celebrate our dead
16:57 < luna> support the vigil in santo domingo, and keep radio university protected
16:57 < luna> `and some more
16:57 < luna> everyone to the law house, to meet and hear a human rights lawyers
16:57 < luna> family of murdered, dissapeared, etc
16:58 < luna> si ulises no se va
16:58 < luna> calderon no pasara
16:58 < luna> --
16:58 < luna> 11
16:58 < luna> and 12
16:58 < luna> of november
16:58 < luna> general congress of appo meeting
16:59 < luna> it is not enough to swap one governor by another one
16:59 < luna> we must look at the distribution of wealth
16:59 < luna> who is poor and why
17:00 < luna> --
17:00 < luna> musica
17:00 < luna> ---
17:09 < luna> police are stop and searching cars
17:10 < luna> in santa rosa
17:10 < luna> plain clothes cops
17:10 < luna> ==
17:10 < luna> 20 plain clothes cops leave xoxo headquarters on motorbikes
17:10  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 11:21:18 AM CST
17:11 < luna> from the antifascist barricade in soriana
17:11 < luna> greetings
17:11 < luna> the altars are  already set
17:11 < luna> to celebrate "the day of the dead"
17:13 < luna> ---
17:13 < luna> we need more ppl in canal9
17:13 < luna> ==
17:15 < luna> ===
17:15 < luna> important letter===
17:15 < luna> SA academics
17:15 < luna> saying that oaxaca is an example
17:15 < luna> ===
17:15 < luna> URGENT 
17:15 < luna> ===
17:16 < luna> PFP is heading straign towards cannal  9
17:16 < luna> as they removed the barricade
17:16 < luna> warning to every person there and every neighbour
17:16 < luna> keeo resisting peacefully
17:16 < luna> keep calm
17:17 < luna> remain organised and cautious
17:17 < luna> they are armed and we arent
17:17 < luna> we dnt want anymore deaths or injured
17:17 < luna> but
17:17 < luna> we dont want these invaders here
17:17 < luna> urgent message to everyone arround cannal 9
17:17 < luna> ===
17:18 < luna> back to letter from intellectuals
17:18 < luna> `saying, basically oaxaca is rather super
17:18 < luna> `and low intensity war, civilresistance, governor, social equality, etc
17:20 < luna> `loads of western academics sign
17:21 < luna> ===
17:21 < luna> hotels where the PFP is sleeping
17:21 < luna> the command
17:21 < luna> that must be, as the little ones are in zocalo
17:22 < luna> so ppl, please go visit them
17:22 < luna> nicely
17:22 < luna> yesterday our last marthyr was burried
17:23 < luna> "my husband prefered to ....
17:23  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 11:34:04 AM CST
17:25  * luna we are going to make a feature of oaxaca fallen, so recording stream
17:27 < luna> phone call 
17:27 < luna> PhCll
17:27 < luna> a version of what is going on in oax
17:27 < luna> we havent been able to respond
17:28 < luna> as a ppl
17:28 < luna> we are not really aware of what is going on
17:28 < luna> otherwise...this superMapache
17:28 < luna> (priista)
17:28 < luna> this guy is only into his own interests
17:29 < luna> we are 110% exploited
17:29 < luna> our all our people emigrate to eeuu
17:29 < luna> and our gobernors dont care
17:29 < luna> they only care about their own pockets
17:29 < luna> and am talking to all those that voted for PAN and PRI
17:29 < luna> how has it benefitted you?
17:30 < luna> as christians
17:30 < luna> we have to understand
17:30 < luna> never the PAN has been supporting us as ppl
17:30 < luna> they only benefit multinationals and the elite
17:30 < luna> how have we ever benefited?
17:30 < luna> that is the truth
17:31 < luna> we dont have anything to defend ourselves with
17:31 < luna> every so often when they want 
17:31 < luna> they raises out taxes
17:31 < luna> and the government has everything
17:31 < luna> and us as ppl
17:31 < luna> what 
17:31 < luna> whater with tortilla?
17:31 < luna> water?
17:31 < luna> they are opportunities
17:32 < luna> opportuNISTS
17:32 < luna> they take their slice
17:32 < luna> whatever they are given
17:32 < luna> i think the have shit for brains
17:32 < luna> `that was litteral christian shit for brain translaation, ok?
17:33 < luna> while we support these ppl for the crumbs that they give us
17:33 < luna> we shal always be surmerged in poverty
17:33 < luna> ---
17:33 < luna> we have now a conexion with our compas radio planton
17:33 < luna> `mexico radio 1400 am
17:33 < luna> ===
17:33 < luna> they are removing canal 9 barricade for sure, we are here
17:34 < luna> its the pfp and afi
17:34 < luna> about 15 pfp ans 
17:34 < luna> 2 large lorries
17:34 < luna> no compas around
17:34 < luna> that have practically evicting canal 9
17:34 < luna> q- any assaults from the police?
17:34 < luna> a-no its all quite
17:35 < luna> there are now workers claning with spades, pikes, etc
17:35 < luna> they are clearing out what they consider rubbish
17:35 < luna> `radio planton oaxaca, not DF
17:35 < luna> forgot to say
17:35 < luna> compas in law hotel
17:36 < luna> from HHRR orgs are going into the building now
17:36 < luna> ---
17:36 < luna> live from USA caller
17:36 < luna> ----
17:36 < luna> hullo?
17:36 < luna> caller:
17:36 < luna> we are talking from the north
17:36 < luna> from a station there
17:36 < luna> and we have some questions
17:36 < luna> we are going to put you on live on air
17:37 < luna> good morning
17:37 < luna> we though it was an interview for us here in university radio, but...
17:37 < luna> am sure someone here can talk to them
17:37 < luna> ---
17:37 < luna> --
17:37 < luna> we have someone in the studio
17:37 < luna> ---
17:37 < luna> i am one of appo
17:37 < luna> yesterday in the pri march we had
17:37 < luna> humble people too
17:38 < luna> who where forced to go to the demo
17:38 < luna> and we insulted them but they had no choice
17:38 < luna> they didnt even give them water
17:38 < luna> porr ppl
17:38 < luna> they say to ppl
17:38 < luna> if you dont go to the demo
17:38 < luna> i will not pay your wages 
17:38 < luna> and we are in 2006
17:38 < luna> not 1980
17:39 < luna> deads and many things we are living
17:39 < luna> till when 
17:39 < luna> when will they want to take us out blindfolds
17:39 < luna> those people in that demo
17:39 < luna> where so few
17:39 < luna> so few
17:39 < luna> they are the rich
17:39 < luna> it was like a catwalk
17:39 < luna> they dnt know how to walk and are so fancy
17:40 < luna> till when
17:40 < luna> sociedad valdivia
17:40 < luna> this broadcaster from a big station
17:40 < luna> she had the face to cheer this pri demo on
17:40 < luna> well she cheered us on to carry on struggling ahainst her
17:40 < luna> and that guy
17:41 < luna> who got drunk and got a gun in hand - so and so names and surnames-
17:41 < luna> what the fuck are they about?
17:41 < luna> drunk and with guns and going around the city?
17:41 < luna> and that kid that got shot
17:41 < luna> and tey said that 1st of may killed him
17:41 < luna> what was his name?
17:42 < luna> it wast 1st of may
17:42 < luna> it was the pri who ordered them to go there
17:42 < luna> and that last one that was told not to jump cuz he was drunk
17:42 < luna> ---
17:42 < luna> a call now
17:42 < luna> back to man in studio
17:42 < luna> ==
17:43 < luna> those two in the motorbike
17:43 < luna> and they fell off 
17:43 < luna> as they where going round the barricades
17:43 < luna> provoking
17:43 < luna> we never found out who ordered this
17:43 < luna> ---
17:43 < luna> important info
17:43  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 11:54:39 AM CST
17:44 < luna> about 1 hr hour in los llanos
17:44 < luna> where going around saying that they are oaxaca
17:44 < luna> and giving food to the pfp
17:44 < luna> i am from oaxaca
17:44 < luna> too
17:44 < luna> but what is going on
17:44 < luna> what kind of ppl are supporting ULO and pfp and giving them food
17:44 < luna> they are killing our people
17:45 < luna> they ought to support us
17:45 < luna> because we are talking risks to better all of our rights
17:45 < luna> and they are suporting the enemy
17:45 < luna> it is not on
17:45 < luna> ----
17:45 < luna> `fuerza
17:45 < luna> --
17:45 < luna> so wht we are doing
17:45 < luna> giving the pfp food?
17:46 < luna> they have enough money
17:46 < luna> what we have to feed out invaders too
17:46 < luna> ?
17:46 < luna> our invaders
17:46 < luna> half of our people, oaxaca leaves outside oaxaca
17:46 < luna> so who is oaxaca
17:46 < luna> --
17:46 < luna> unill ulo falls
17:46 < luna> lets carry on?
17:47 < luna> we keep our feet inside the line
17:47 < luna> everyone, in all areas
17:47 < luna> CMON
17:47 < luna> CMO
17:47 < luna> until we die
17:47 < luna> "until - we WIN - compa, win
17:47 < luna> ---
17:47 < luna> think
17:48 < luna> they layed out 3 desks for HHRR abuses on the part of appo
17:48 < luna> and then they are going around asking for food
17:48 < luna> and in xoxo they are not selling petrol, ony to nice looking cars
17:49 < luna> the poor are being prevented
17:49 < luna> can people call in
17:49 < luna> and tell us where ppl can buy magna petrol
17:49 < luna> cuz this happened yesterday too somewhere else
17:49 < luna> why is this>
17:49 < luna> people find out
17:49 < luna> they ony sell premium petrol
17:49 < luna> why
17:50 < luna> ---
17:50  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 12:01:25 PM CST
17:50 < luna> this nurse that was killed yesterday
17:50 < luna> we have a call
17:50 < luna> -
17:51 < luna> a few minutes ago we called again
17:51 < luna> we call from north nevada
17:51 < luna> here and there in this radio station
17:51 < luna> we need to know what is happening
18:24 < luna> they are breaking into ppls houses
18:25 < luna> house "searches"
18:25 < luna> first they throw in gass thru the broken windows
18:25 < luna> then kick the door down
18:25 < luna> they are looking to arrest 2 teachers from appo
18:26  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 12:37:17 PM CST
18:26 < luna> there is a demonstration going on in oaxaca 
18:27 < luna> which aims to go to the zocalo square
18:27 < luna> and surrround it
18:27 < luna> encircling the police (pfp) in
18:27 < luna> -
18:27 < luna> at the same time police is looting what is left of canal9
18:27 < luna> -
18:28 < luna> the have beaten up a 13 year old
18:28 < luna> the arrested him
18:28 < luna> in a street called ni?os heroes
18:32 < luna> Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 12:43:03 PM CST
18:32 < luna> police moving to brenamiel
18:32  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 12:43:03 PM CST
18:47 < luna> a copter in brenamiel
18:47 < luna> looking to land
18:47 < luna> so PFP have surrounded breanmiel
18:47 < luna> afis looting canal9
18:47 < luna> but EVERYONE go support brenamiel
18:47 < luna> neighbours
18:48 < luna> etc
18:49  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 12:43:03 PM CST
18:50  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 1:00:46 PM CST
18:50  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 1:00:46 PM CST
18:53 < luna> brenamiel are surrounded
18:53 < luna> copter landing
18:54 < luna> PFP moves to clear branamiel
18:54 < luna> compas
18:54 < luna> alert
18:54 < luna> prepare yourselves
18:54 < luna> stay cool
18:56 < luna> students report that parque del amor
18:56 < luna> is quiet
18:56 < luna> all quiet
18:56 < luna> in parque del amor
18:56 < luna> low flying copter
18:56 < luna> over oaxaca
18:56 < luna> looking to land somewhere, one of these areas
18:57 < luna> ---
18:57 < luna> --
18:57 < luna> visitor
18:57 < luna> i came to denounce the compa fallen
18:57 < luna> various neighbours, priistas
18:57 < luna> have been phoning us up at home
18:58 < luna> with dead threat
18:58 < luna> death threats
18:59  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 1:09:41 PM CST
18:59 < luna> they are bad neighbours
18:59 < luna> we know why we are fighting
18:59 < luna> for
18:59 < luna> to get rid of ULO
18:59 < luna> like perico, like mxtas
18:59 < luna> we are struggling
18:59 < luna> fughting
18:59 < luna> fighting
18:59 < luna> we are attacked
19:00 < luna> we see these cars they drive around
19:00 < luna> dont be afraid
19:00 < luna> if they take one of us
19:00 < luna> we are not alone
19:00 < luna> we will help each other
19:00 < luna> the more they stricke the more we rise up
19:00 < luna> ---
19:01 < luna> phone in 
19:01 < luna> ---
19:01  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 1:12:04 PM CST
19:01 < luna> from 5 mayo 
19:01 < luna> a senator has just held a meeting
19:01 < luna> if you let us
19:01 < luna> wait
19:03 < luna> 1400 radio planton
19:03 < luna> some senator
19:03 < luna> saying senator stuff
19:03 < luna> `
19:03 < luna> `
19:03 < luna> `
19:03 < luna> ==
19:04 < luna> the people of oaxaca appreciate the comments and are against the invasion of the pfp
19:04 < luna> api is taking way the TV equipment used by appo in the canal9 building since they reclaimed it
19:04 < luna> ==
19:05 < luna> a child from oaxaca
19:05 < luna> that went all the way to the radio
19:05 < luna> a= id like to tell all cops 
19:05 < luna> to remember who taught them to be cops?
19:05 < luna> wel it was the teachers, wasnt it?
19:06 < luna> and now they are fighting against the teachers
19:06 < luna> and it is not fair!!
19:06 < luna> `??
19:06 < luna> have you seen the pfp
19:06 < luna> a=yep 
19:06 < luna> 110 tanks throwing water to ppl for no reasons
19:06 < luna> and what do you think about this?
19:06 < luna> well i think its really bad
19:07 < luna> but i aso agree with the police, cuz appo cutting the roooooads...and
19:07 < luna> q--and what o you think about the day of the deaths then
19:07 < luna> a-- weeeel its nice
19:07 < luna> q--thankyou
19:07 < luna> ==
19:08 < luna> kid: id like to say to all children to come to radio univeridad or if they see any PFP to call in
19:08 < luna> cheers
19:08 < luna> and thanks for the bread you brought in
19:08 < luna> --
19:11  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 1:21:49 PM CST
19:11 < luna> police are siegeing brenamiel
19:11 < luna> people are asking for fireworks
19:11 < luna> that's what they are asking for
19:11 < luna> and neighbours please go down and support 
19:12 < luna> >music<
19:15 < luna> ferrocarril y cal y canto barricada numero 3 
19:15 < luna> had a copa
19:15 < luna> killed
19:16 < luna> and are going to hold a ceremony for our compa
19:17 < luna> they are talking about brad,
19:17 < luna> but we are not going to transcribe it
19:17 < luna> untill we get the names of the local fallen as easlty as we get the name of brad
19:17 < luna> but he is saying that brad was an example
19:18 < luna> that he believed in what he dd and covered events truthfully
19:18 < luna> the altar in barricade 3
19:19 < luna> is ready and people will keep bringing objects to conmemorate brad - and the others
19:19 < luna> ---
19:19 < luna> phone in
19:19 < luna> ---
19:19 < luna> q- good afternoon
19:20 < luna> a copter in "la joya"
19:20 < luna> is flying really low
19:20 < luna> and children are coming out
19:20 < luna> of the houses crying like mad
19:20 < luna> and there is a guy, benito, a priista
19:20 < luna> and is pointing out houses to the copters
19:21 < luna> and if there is a fallen....
19:21 < luna> ULO is responsible
19:21 < luna> and we saw what happened in atenco
19:21 < luna> but this is not mexico
19:21 < luna> this is oaxaca 
19:21 < luna> we are indians here
19:21 < luna> we will give them what they deserve
19:21 < luna> `she was a womxn
19:21 < luna> a-
19:22 < luna> so
19:22 < luna> copters flying low in la joya
19:22 < luna> and pfp moving in brenamiel
19:22 < luna> and canal9 looting 
19:22 < luna> --
19:22 < luna> visitor
19:22 < luna> --
19:22 < luna> there is going to be a mass in memory to our journalist
19:23 < luna> and people can take some offering to the altar we built in calycanto
19:23 < luna> and id like to invite HHRR observers to visit
19:23 < luna> and we have many tourists
19:23 < luna> here supporting and the government is giving us crumbs
19:24 < luna> bye
19:24 < luna> ---
19:24 < luna> as we are talking about HHRR
19:24 < luna> we have been told that people that are going to denounce HHRR abuses
19:24 < luna> dnt go to el llano"
19:25 < luna> as it is a desk set up by the pri supporters and they are going to take your ID
19:25 < luna> -
19:25 < luna> we need
19:25 < luna> flowers, candles, and DIY altar material
19:25 < luna> `sorry
19:40  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 1:51:41 PM CST
19:41 < luna> message from chiapas
19:41 < luna> missed the begining
19:41 < luna> never should have the police force have appened
19:41 < luna> the federal gobernement doesnt care about the indigenous ppl
19:42 < luna> we demand ULO to disappear
19:42 < luna> the police should dissapear
19:42 < luna> the dissapeared should appear
19:42 < luna> and justice should be done
19:42 < luna> from civil society in chiapas
19:42 < luna> the bees from chiapas
19:43 < luna> to the ppl of oaxaca
19:43 < luna> a message from the otehr campaign
19:43 < luna> and the sock
19:43 < luna> ` :P
19:43 < luna> ---
19:43 < luna> music
19:43 < luna> <
19:57  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 2:08:15 PM CST
19:57 < luna> poem
19:57 < luna> <>
19:57 < luna> to a fascist 
19:58 < luna> big mapache
19:59 < luna> ----
19:59 < luna> --
19:59 < luna> --
19:59 < luna> ======
20:00 < luna> 5 compas taken by the police 
20:00 < luna> snatched
20:00 < luna> with copter
20:00 < luna> people watch out
20:00 < luna> Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 2:11:16 PM CST
20:00  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 2:11:16 PM CST
20:00 < luna> radio:compas 
20:00 < luna> we were saying earlier
20:00 < luna> be alert but dont get arrested
20:01 < luna> keep indors of really watch out
20:01 < luna> indoors
20:01 < luna> ----
20:01 < luna> a visitor
20:01 < luna> ----
20:02 < luna> you were talking about the ruffle
20:02 < luna> on the "calaberas" / "skulls"
20:02 < luna> we are a group that is reclaiming original languages
20:02 < luna> we indygenous languages
20:02 < luna> from these lands
20:03 < luna> which have been dissapearing
20:03 < luna> and are really rich
20:03 < luna> so we bring these books we made
20:03 < luna> and they come with "our" songs
20:03 < luna> in zapoteco and in espa?ol
20:03 < luna> and you can include it in the calaberas prize
20:03 < luna> and look after yourselves
20:04 < luna> cuz we worry abou you
20:04 < luna> ---
20:04 < luna> ok so we have here this prize, which contains a load of stuff really interesting stuff
20:04 < luna> a dictionary spanish/zapoteco and several other books
20:05 < luna> and a book with zapoteco stories
20:05 < luna> and a load of really nice stuff 
20:05 < luna> and you ring in with your "skulls" and we will later on the week anounce the winner
20:06 < luna> a- and we leave a novel with you in the studio, so that you dont feel jelaous
20:06 < luna> cool
20:06 < luna> so this we have in our hands, our heritage and history of our People
20:06 < luna> and here is coming some music
20:06 < luna> erm the book is y javier catellanos
20:07 < luna> `and he is really done a lot of work about zapotecho culture and gotten prizes
20:08 < luna> and the book is in both spanish and zapoteco
20:08 < luna> and i was worring because i dont speak my language
20:08 < luna> and though it was all in zapoteco
20:08 < luna> but am lucky
20:08 < luna> ---
20:08 < luna> in brenamiel
20:08 < luna> 5 compas arrested
20:09 < luna> taken by the copter
20:09 < luna> ---
20:09 < luna> we have a report 
20:09 < luna> anfolso lucio garcia martinez in canal9
20:09 < luna> rutillo nor lucio
20:10 < luna> in pueblo nuevo 3 people kidnapped by pfp
20:10 < luna> in a yellow car
20:10 < luna> in calycanto neighbourhood a woman left home and has not come back, please get in touch with you famila
20:10 < luna> --
20:10 < luna> in pueblo nuevo
20:11 < luna> patrol 7924 took a dark haired young man
20:11 < luna> --
20:11 < luna> and look out ppl, 
20:11 < luna> cuz the baddies are out there talking our ppl
20:11 < luna> look out
20:11 < luna> --
20:11 < luna> music
20:12 < luna> Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 2:23:04 PM CST
20:12 < luna> ---
20:24  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 2:34:43 PM CST
20:24 < luna> back on air
20:24 < luna> caller 
20:24 < luna> -
20:24 < luna> id like to denounce some ppl
20:24 < luna> `list of ppl
20:24 < luna> they have been handing over 
20:24 < luna> denouncin our people
20:25 < luna> aaron perez bautista
20:25 < luna> aurelio balivieso
20:25 < luna> martin vazquez villanuea <<< he poinst out and and denounces our compas qhen they are injured
20:25 < luna> `and three more
20:25 < luna> traitors
20:26 < luna> traitors!
20:26 < luna> 9511246941
20:26 < luna> number to call
20:26 < luna> or check www.indymedia.org
20:26 < luna> -
20:26 < luna> -
20:26 < luna> -
20:26 < luna> canal9 compas are calling in
20:27 < luna> and from brenamiel
20:27 < luna> they are calling out to reinforce our presence there
20:27 < luna> people go reinforce canal9
20:27 < luna> keep safe and calmed
20:27 < luna> --
20:28 < luna> we are also told that there is a car with 5 paramilitaries running arround (somewhere)
20:28 < luna> watch out in that area
20:28 < luna> ther will also be a mass for compa brat will today
20:28 < luna> --
20:29 < luna> lets kick ULO out
20:29 < luna> and kick the occupying forces out
20:29 < luna> ---
20:29 < luna> we are going to stay more firm than ever and convinced that our struggle must continue
20:30 < luna> and keep the preassure in the critical points
20:30 < luna> they are trying to keep gobernability in our state
20:30 < luna> and there aint any
20:30 < luna> ULO is not in power
20:30 < luna> ` lets head on confront this system
20:31 < luna> >poem
20:48  * luna can someone take this over for a bit
20:48 < luna> ?
20:48  * luna is anyone here anyway
20:49 < mahtin> sorry my hands hurt alot
20:49 < luna> yeah i know how you feel
20:49 < luna> :)
20:50 < luna> anyone else?
20:50 < luna> 30 mins?
20:50 < luna> pretty please
20:51 < david> luna, thanks so much for doing this  - sorry, i don't know spanish. 
20:51 < occam> !!!!
20:51 < luna> ok
20:51 < occam> << no es ;(
20:57  * luna really have to do something, be back in a while, hope that not many ppl get killed, etc in d meantime. stuggle continues, anyhow. cu
21:27 < yuri> continues the planton in front of santo domingo church
21:27 < yuri> international campaing against repression continues
21:28 < yuri> 10, 11 and 12 november,  general APPO congress
21:28 < yuri> 20 call to general strike
21:28 < yuri> 20th of november
21:29 < yuri> 11 and 12 of november - national congress of the mexican students.
21:29 < yuri> *music*
21:31 < yuri> (sorry my bad english)
21:31 < yuri> *campaign
21:33 < rUUd> your english is fine
21:38 < yuri> *more music*
21:38 < yuri> woman talkin about the music
21:39 < yuri> the music is stopped.
21:39 < rUUd> *woman rapping
21:39 < yuri> appo saying against the PFP, against the repression of the teachers
21:40 < yuri> against the presidents of some neighborhoods
21:40 < yuri> she said the name, but i didn't get it.
21:40 < yuri> the presidents are priistas
21:41 < yuri> against the neo liberalism projects around the world
21:41 < yuri> inside the mexico
21:41 < yuri> all those sentences are agreed in APPO
21:42 < yuri> talkin about problems in barricades
21:42 < sw> i will stop logging now and will try to proviede the logs for this chan somewhere, query me if someone of you want its name to be stripped out
21:43 < yuri> its necessary the support on the barricades in front the radio appo
21:44 < yuri> they don't now exactly where is PFP
21:44 < yuri> but they now that they want it to take the radio
21:45 < yuri> its necessary more people to protect radio.
21:45 < yuri> and so it will be an violation of the university autonomy
21:46 < yuri> thanks for the international support 
21:47 < yuri> people from oaxaca - we have to get together - hasta la victoria
21:47 < yuri> now its a woman
21:47 < yuri> (i can understand)
21:49 < yuri> back to radio appo woman
21:49 < yuri> 1400 fm (i think)
21:49 < yuri> its necessary to support barricades in front of radio appo
21:50 < yuri> she's talkin about the musics they're goin to play
21:50 < yuri> *music*
21:51 < yuri> (i'm horrible in this)
21:59 < yuri> is back
21:59 < yuri> woman talkin telephones
21:59 < yuri> blockin against the death of the nurse yesterday
22:00 < yuri> PFP is planning the take of radio APPO.
22:01 < mahtin> we are still here in spite of the presence of the pri, the porros, the pfp
22:01 < mahtin> a cordial invitation to the people of oaxaca to defend us
22:04 < mahtin> wake up and let's join the fight, struggle us
22:07 < mahtin> they are requesting that a neighbor lend them a chamber pot
22:10 < yuri> music
22:11 < toya> <-empezo a gravar ahora
22:14 < yuri> where do they from? where do they from? from the barricade!
22:14 < toya> que buena la musica
22:14 < toya> :)))
22:14 < yuri> mutcho!
22:17 < toya> 19:27 < toya> de la barricda!
22:17 < toya> 19:27 < toya> de la barricda!
22:17 < toya> 19:27 < toya> de la barricda!
22:17 < toya> 19:27 < yuri> de onde?!
22:17 < toya> 19:27 < toya> de la barricda!
22:17 < toya> 19:27 < toya> de la barricda!
22:17 < toya> 19:27 < toya> de la barricda!
22:17 < toya> 19:27 < yuri> de onde?!
22:17 < toya> 19:27 < toya> de la barricda!
22:17 < toya> 19:27 < toya> de la barricda!
22:17 < toya> 19:27 < toya> de la barricda!
22:17 < toya> 19:27 < yuri> tcha tcha
22:17 < toya> 19:27 < toya> !!!!!!!!
22:17 < toya> 19:27 < yuri> tcha tcha tcha
22:29 < yuri> still music
22:54 < yuri> brenamiel - pfp is breaking many things
22:54 < yuri> PFP is invading houses in many neighborhoods
22:54 < yuri> everybody stay together and stay calm
22:55 < yuri> stay awake!
22:55 < yuri> everybody protect each other.
22:55 < yuri> everybody take pictures!
22:56 < yuri> try to catch all the stupid things that PFP is doing.
22:56 < yuri> stay awake!
22:56 < yuri> call to radio appo and talk about what's goin on the streets.
22:57 < mahtin> 9511246941?
22:57 < mahtin> that's too many numbers
22:57 < yuri> i think she is always saying two numbers.
22:58 < yuri> i can't hear them.
22:58 < yuri> more music
23:03 < mahtin> please excuse the interruptions that the oaxacan revolution is causing to our regular programming
23:04 < mahtin> asking for peopel to report from the brenamiel barricade
23:04 < mahtin> phone call:
23:04 < mahtin> noone there
23:04 < mahtin> there they are...
23:06 < mahtin> i am a oaxacan by birth...listening to the other radio station as well...very disappointed by the entrance of the "public" forces- you don't even feel safe walking ont eh streets
23:07 < mahtin> they don't lovethe people, they want to control thru fear
23:07 < mahtin> what we have to do is stay with our consciousness (political)...
23:07 < mahtin> they are worried about tourism...(?)
23:08 < mahtin> these european cities have all had their ( protests ), in a central plaza
23:11 < mahtin> ...talking about the problems that are caused when there are rich and poor
23:14 < mahtin> talks about the meaning ofthe word "don," how it sets "Don so and so" apart
23:15 < mahtin> another person calls and hangs up
23:17 < mahtin> .... we should call our comp@s and friends in other parts of the world, because oaxaca is suffering from the police siege
23:18 < mahtin> they are spreading disinformation out there, saying oaxaca is at piece
23:18 < mahtin> we have to demonstrate the situation that we find ourselves in (explain it to the world)
23:19 < mahtin> ...
23:19 < mahtin> be careful, but we won't give up- they have not beaten us, they have not won
23:19 < mahtin> we have to respond to this historic moment
23:20 < mahtin> let's collect our stuff, so we can share and have it when we need it
23:20 < mahtin> let's protectt his radio station, with our lives, if needed
23:20 < mahtin> they have not understood that we Oaxacans are still standing, in spite of everything
23:20 < mahtin> a bit ago, there was resistance at Channel 9
23:21 < mahtin> groups of people were demonstrating on every corner of the Zocalo...there's the barricade on Cinco Senores, the others, the mass in honor of Brad Will (tho he is a gringo, he is now our compan~ero), also now the plaza de santo domingo and the tourist area are full of people
23:21 < mahtin> oaxaquen~os who say "Basta!"
23:22 < mahtin> with our heart and forehead up high...
23:22 < mahtin> we are going to keep resisting, reason(correctness) is on ourside
23:22 < mahtin> thank you to the virgen de guadalupe...
23:23 < mahtin> how are we going to tell the mother of the oaxacans that one of the children here was killed?
23:23 < mahtin> fox is a murderer
23:23 < toya> how they will explain the crimes they have committed in oaxaca....how they will telll the mothe of th emeixcans how thye have killed a kid
23:23 < toya> ops
23:23 < mahtin> we will wash our hands, because these are stains from work, but the blood stains on fox's hands will never come off
23:24 < mahtin> i thank you, my friends, for the opportunity to share with you...
23:24 < mahtin> how to explain that a teacher walking on the street has to hide his credentials to avoid being detained?
23:25 < mahtin> we will support them in whatever conditions, even in a return to classes...
23:30 < mahtin> ...
23:30 < mahtin> need help to reinforce the brenamiel barricade
23:30 < mahtin> to have cameras outthere to "capture" evidence of what they are doing to us
23:32 < mahtin> guest- shoutout to colonos, friends who are out there... we repudiate what tehy are do
23:32 < mahtin> what they are doing, although uro thinks he's still in power...
23:33 < mahtin> we are fighting on the people's side...
23:33 < mahtin> (that was a professor)
23:33 < mahtin> asking the human rights ocmmission to get to brenamiel
23:36 < mahtin> ...
23:36 < mahtin> i am very proud to be a university student...
23:36 < mahtin> i am glad people our defending our autonomy...
23:36 < mahtin> we are going to close all the schools, the universities, until we get the city back
23:36 < mahtin> we are very proud of our fallen comp@s
23:37 < mahtin> ... i want the teachers to stay strong till that guy goes
23:38 < mahtin> this is a diverse(?) radio, of the oaxacan people, we need a goverment that doesn't repress people
23:38 < mahtin> also i invite pres fox to visit oaxaca- if he says it's peaceful, we're here waiting for him...
23:38 < mahtin> we will not take as tep back until uro is gone
23:38 < mahtin> (end call)
23:39 < mahtin> comp@ here to read a poem
23:43 < mahtin> ...caller...
23:46 < mahtin> flagrant violation of human rights- man trying to take down data about human rights abuses...
23:47 < mahtin> people are being questioned and detained- doesn't matter if they are kids or elderly or what their health or gender is- they are questioning everyone (this would be in Brenamiel area)
23:47 < mahtin> poet: another very nice poem about the resistance and heroic deaths...
23:49 < mahtin> host: we have the right to protest...they are supposed to serve society...
23:50 < mahtin> golpearoccas?  name of poet?
23:50 < mahtin> host- so there's a big human rights violation our there
23:51 < mahtin> urgent call to people around brenamiel, area aroudn there to get out there, in spite of the pfp's violence, we have to get out and write down and record the impunity with which they are acting
23:51 < mahtin> we have to support the compan~er@s
23:51 < mahtin> we have to stay united and organized
23:52 < mahtin> and not allow mass detentions
23:52 < mahtin> luna!
23:52 < mahtin> we are calling all sectors and all people in oaxaca
23:53 < mahtin> caller-we are organizing at barricades...
23:55 < mahtin> neighbors at (?)higuera and brenamiel, people are suffering out there frm the pfp, like the caller said we have to reorganize by colonia ands ector and mobilize
23:55 < mahtin> and we have to keep them from detaining more people
23:55 < mahtin> another caller
23:56 < mahtin> a bus is on fire?
23:56 < mahtin> and we have to keep an eye out for when people, the youth, do things like this?
23:56 < mahtin> as much as they want to support, we have to have our 5 senses very sensitive
23:57 < mahtin> (alert)
23:57 < mahtin> the compa who had just called, something about the barricade at 5 sen~ores, this caller agrees we have to be very organized
23:58 < mahtin> ... missed some...
23:58 < mahtin> host we are getting al ot of calls for support at the barricades
23:59 < mahtin> this corroborates things we've been hearing
23:59 < mahtin> also repression from the pfp at higuera
23:59 < mahtin> jorge sanchez report to his house, please cuz people are worried about him
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00:00 < mahtin> at 5 sen~ores, some trucks came by and took 2 people- if anyone saw what happened, has photos, video, any testimony, come to 5 sen~ores and give that info
00:00 < mahtin> so weneed all the neighbors to come outr and witness what the pfp is doing
00:00 < mahtin> (is anyone posting this ont eh web?)
00:01 < mahtin> act with hot heart, cold head
00:01 < mahtin> we have to keep up our reorganization
00:01 < mahtin> if they want to take a barricade, let them take it, just rebuild it when they leave
00:01 < mahtin> they came in but they don't know when they are going to leave
00:01 < mahtin> we have to show them our capacity, organized we will stop the repressive politics/policies
00:02 < mahtin> bringing food and supplies to people show good face, camoflaged
00:02 < mahtin> they will not stop us or quiet
00:02 < mahtin> we don't know how many disappeared and killed we have, we have to demand their live presentation...(showt he people who are detained/disappeared)
00:03  * luna_ shit fell asleep.. how many hours have u been doing this maht? coffe
00:03 < mahtin> as one ofthe first measures ew are adopting: reorganize, keep up the mobilizations from different sectors, reinforce; 
00:03 < mahtin> 1.5 hours
00:03 < mahtin> show your creativity
00:04 < mahtin> we will have huge actions, stay firm...make the repressive forces retreat...
00:04 < mahtin> they are calling from the barricades to say that horrible things are happening out there
00:04 < mahtin> hosts ask that senator(s) and human rights commission get out and get their stories
00:05 < mahtin> compas: go out and verify what is passing
00:05 < mahtin> senator is rosario ibarra?
00:05 < mahtin> these grave actions are going on out there
00:06 < mahtin> tomorrow we are goiong to be able to show our organizational capacity
00:07 < mahtin> have to strengthen the barricades, they willnot pass
00:07 < mahtin> we have to support our comp@s who are out there
00:07 < mahtin> but avoid confrontation... and record their actions
00:08 < mahtin> ...
00:08 < mahtin> uro dooesn't have the true support of the people anymore
00:09 < mahtin> ...?
00:09 < mahtin> they are inviting the priistas to ahve a march...a comp@ saw them when he was out walking (?)
00:09 < mahtin> ...
00:10 < mahtin> we are getting al ot of comments about what is going on at the barricades, the time is right to get out there and verify it
00:10 < mahtin> guest:
00:11 < mahtin> reporting on her experiences, thanking people who helped her esp at the barricades at 5 sen~ores
00:11 < mahtin> i can't hear where she is saying what happened happened
00:12 < mahtin> one can't walk out there without the support of someone else
00:12 < mahtin> ...?
00:13 < mahtin> did they have guns at this attack- yes
00:13 < mahtin> we're going to give out the phone numbers for denouncing what is going on
00:13 < mahtin> we call for everyone who wants to go out and support the intersectiona t 5 sen~ores
00:14 < mahtin> take this moments to get out there to support that and ciudad universitari
00:14 < mahtin> a
00:14 < mahtin> is anyone reading this
00:15 < mahtin> guest: talking aboit what is going on with pfp, wes hould organize clandestinely
00:15 < mahtin> so i guess i can stop translating now
00:24  * luna_ me
00:25 < luna_> and its being logged
00:25 < mahtin> even what i did above, luna?
00:25 < luna_> are we winning mahtin?
00:25 < luna_> yep 
00:25 < luna_> everythin
00:31 < mahtin> need people to come out and support the barricade at montoya (?)
00:31 < luna_> i am not sure
00:32 < luna_> university
00:32 < luna_> ----
00:32 < luna_> students are calling for a meeting tomorrow at 1pm
00:32 < luna_> meet at radio universidad
00:32 < luna_> -
00:33 < luna_> they have also payed someone to build the priista altars 
00:33 < luna_> there are priista paramilitaries running around the city, talking on everyone they come across
00:33  * luna_ Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 6:44:32 PM CST
00:34  * luna_ from here, time stamping it http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=155
00:34  * luna_ in case it comes useful later 2 quickly scan what happened when
00:34 < mahtin> people who know joel santiago ramirez please contact the following number...
00:36 < luna_> we are talking about burgeois state terrorism
00:36 < luna_> going on in oaxaca
00:36 < luna_> we cant forget the mexican revolution
00:36 < luna_> we cant forget the blood 
00:37 < luna_> thru which we gained what we got
00:37 < luna_> cant give that up for imperialist interests
00:38 < luna_> if you have arrested relatives, call the studio find out what is happening to them
00:38 < luna_> ===
00:38 < luna_> break
00:38 < luna_> ===
00:38  * luna_ wow they have hhrr gingles now
00:39 < luna_> assasinations, executions illegal arests, rapes, illegal house searchs, looting
00:39 < luna_> the problem is political nomore
00:39 < luna_> it is psicological
00:39 < luna_> the only way out for ulises ruiz
00:39 < luna_> is the nuthouse
00:39 < luna_> ===
00:39 < luna_> >music
00:42 < luna_> <music
00:42 < luna_> we dedicate that song to jazmin
00:43 < luna_> we are trying to cheer the ppl of oaxaca with this station
00:43 < luna_> as the stuff that corporate radio is giving us is depressing 
00:44 < luna_> there where national and international demonstrations in solidarity
00:44 < luna_> in uruguay
00:44 < luna_> and in berlin
00:44 < luna_> and in turkey
00:44 < luna_> tabasco
00:44 < luna_> tuernabaca
00:44 < luna_> `` in amsterdam 
00:45 < luna_> the secretary general of "a union" 
00:45 < luna_> was forcing people to go to demo in suppor of ULO
00:45 < luna_> our struggle is about
00:46 < luna_> guarateeing union rights, it is now time to struggle for these rights we  got thu giving our lives
00:46 < luna_> bourgeoisie bourgeoisie bourgeoisie
00:46 < luna_> bourgeoisie bourgeoisie bourgeoisie 
00:46 < luna_> power
00:46 < luna_> we are figting the bourgeoisie
00:46 < luna_> another denounciation
00:47 < luna_> of people being payed to march in support of ULO
00:47 < luna_> they paid them with a pig
00:47 < luna_> dont accept any more gifts from this fascis state
00:47 < luna_> -
00:48 < luna_> we need the repression of d pfp
00:48 < luna_> but, please keep together and avoid confrontation
00:48 < luna_> but if it comes uses the weaponst we have
00:48 < luna_> film, etc
00:48 < luna_> -
00:48 < luna_> there is a tip
00:49 < luna_> that a journalist has declared that the pfp has search order on the universsity building 
00:49 < luna_> search for weapons
00:50 < luna_> wed like to ask the senator in oaxaca to look into this
00:50 < luna_> and remind everyone that we have special autonomous rights
00:50 < luna_> please, lets check
00:51 < luna_> becuse it looks likke permission for the search warrant has been 
00:51 < luna_> granted by a faculty of the university
00:51 < luna_> is this legal?
00:51 < luna_> because we know that the directors of the university as declared that they support the occupation
00:52 < luna_> and we know that chapingo and UNAM universities have declared that theyd movilise if they touch juarez in oaxaca
00:52 < luna_> we are going to respond
00:53 < luna_> if they manage to achive their objectives, 
00:53 < luna_> we are going to look for other ways to get rid of this governor
00:53 < luna_> we are united and the ppl are with us
00:53 < luna_> they dont support the PRI or their interests
00:54 < luna_> who are using paramilitaries and army to protect their own interests
00:54 < luna_> lets say again that ours is a peaceful movement and the ones that have used violence, those armed, are the police undercover
00:55 < luna_> with their guns
00:55 < luna_> as seen clearly in the media
00:55 < luna_> these interests have not been able to get rid of this resistance
00:55 < luna_> the time is near to see the end
00:55 < luna_> of this fascist government
00:55 < luna_> represor
00:55 < luna_> repressor
00:56 < luna_> we;d also talk to the people that dont know what is going on
00:56 < luna_> who think that tehre are leaders behinf appo
00:56 < luna_> we will have this general assembly coming 
00:56 < luna_> where you will se how we choose how to organise
00:57 < luna_> apple is a way of organising, of participation
00:57 < luna_> we decide what is going on
00:57 < luna_> we are being suppported by lots of people 
00:57 < luna_> that have been coming here because we are telling the truths
00:58 < luna_> and people are coming here even if they cant walk, to support us
00:58 < luna_> we are not a minority like they say
00:58 < luna_> business interests are begging for the PFP to break into the university
00:58 < luna_> to see normality in their business
00:59 < luna_> there will be none
00:59 < luna_> no peace until they leave
00:59 < luna_> them being here is costing a lot of money
00:59 < luna_> is costing the public purse 
01:00 < luna_> and that money should be going elsewhere
01:00 < luna_> and it has been proved that ULO has no capacity to keep the PFP, the repressor police here
01:00 < luna_> how sad, how ironic
01:01 < luna_> these people who call themselves the people of oaxaca 
01:01 < luna_> are taking food to these represive forces
01:01 < luna_> they pay people to show up in front of the tv cameras and smile
01:02 < luna_> cus they know the genreal population doesnt want him
01:02 < luna_> --
01:02 < luna_> caller:
01:02 < luna_> good night
01:02 < luna_> first am not happy with the cateo of the university 
01:02 < luna_> and invite all students to reject this
01:03 < luna_> lets get together tomorrow and sign a paper rejecting this
01:03 < luna_> second
01:03 < luna_> i have been to brenamiel
01:03 < luna_> it is all cleared
01:03 < luna_> there are loads of police
01:03 < luna_> well not so many compared with us
01:03 < luna_> and lets rest, its not a problem
01:04 < luna_> and to you, whay dont you talk about how much the pfp gets payed
01:04 < luna_> cuz their leaders are staying in hotels
01:04 < luna_> while they eat skimpy sandwhiches
01:05 < luna_> and to ask them how they feel when they tell their wives, sons and daughters, 
01:05 < luna_> that they spent the day beatin women and children
01:05 < luna_> so yep
01:05 < luna_> it is important to remind them that they are payed to defend the people
01:06 < luna_> to protect us, not to repress a People that are demanding better conditions, human rights
01:06 < luna_> yes you are right we are calling for, on monday, a demonstration against the bad government of ULO
01:07 < luna_> on monday, there has to be a great mass of us, demanding that this guy ULO leaves oaxaca
01:07 < luna_> so everyone in the diferent sectors have to turn up, unions, students, etc
01:08 < luna_> so calling to all the students that have not been movilising so far
01:08 < luna_> as we as university people have to fight so that everyone has a right to an education
01:08 < luna_> mobilise for the common good
01:09 < luna_> the state's budget for education is miniscule
01:09 < luna_> and that is wrong
01:09 < luna_> lets fight that apathy that many are feeling, fight it, it is what we have to do.
01:10 < luna_> we cant forget what happened in atenco
01:10 < luna_> and you can see that pfp units are getting tired
01:10 < luna_> theyve taken their helmets off 
01:11 < luna_> and it was surprising to see how young these guys are, 19 and with little education
01:11 < luna_> they are being cops because they needed to
01:11 < luna_> becuase there is a lack of opportunities
01:14  * luna_ people they are repeating themselves
01:14  * luna_ so we are going to do other things...
01:14 < luna_> Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 7:25:41 PM CST
01:14  * luna_ Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 7:25:41 PM CST
01:15 < luna_> one woman PRI supporter was asking me what we wanted
01:16 < luna_> and i explained that we are against fascism
01:16 < luna_> and then she asked if we where catholics
01:16 < luna_> and i said that we were eerything, some caths, some atheists, etc
01:17 < luna_> and to remind her that christ fought so that everyone would have all opportunities
01:17 < luna_> he was a revolutionary
01:17 < luna_> and am not a catholic
01:17 < luna_> ` me neither
01:17 < luna_> if you have money today you can buy justice and if you don;t you dont get is
01:18 < luna_> she asked to why dont we just forget about it and go home?
01:18 < luna_> because we are doing this for all
01:18 < luna_> not just oursselves
01:18 < luna_> there is poverty in this city, go to the outskirts people are hungry
01:19 < luna_> we cant forget our deaths, and our hungry and those that are fighting for justice
01:19 < luna_> we have a responsability
01:19 < luna_> we coud go home and have a nice day
01:19 < luna_> bt we cant do that
01:20 < luna_> 45 pesos is the medium salary, the rich get richer and th epoor poorer
01:20 < luna_> s
01:23 < luna_> ==
01:23 < luna_> ==
01:23 < luna_> pueblo nuevo is resisting the adance of the pfp
01:23 < luna_> advance
01:23 < luna_> of the PFP
01:23 < luna_> in the barricade in pueblo nuevo
01:23 < luna_> ===
01:24 < luna_> Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 7:34:54 PM CST
01:24  * luna_ Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 7:34:54 PM CST
01:24 < luna_> so lets show them
01:24 < luna_> lets go support it and lets record them abusing our rights
01:24 < luna_> -
01:24 < luna_> we have a call
01:24 < luna_> caller:
01:25 < luna_> to the woman that called in, which i guess is catholic
01:25 < luna_> one of the comandments is you shall not kill
01:25 < luna_> and to count how many people ULO has killed
01:25 < luna_> we all want to leave in peace
01:26 < luna_> and they cant call themselves catholics
01:26 < luna_> what do they understand as decency
01:26 < luna_> and to the young
01:26 < luna_> the clacuas
01:26 < luna_> id like to send a hug to the clacuas
01:26 < luna_> i know they are good people there
01:27 < luna_> whe went there to raise a school some years ago
01:27 < luna_> for these boys and girls 
01:27 < luna_> who are hardly going to finish their secondary education
01:27 < luna_> ad their aim is to after a couple of years after school
01:28 < luna_> to go to the USA
01:28 < luna_> and they are hard working and they know that the can change their lives and the future of their people
01:28 < luna_> and so i want to say to them
01:28 < luna_> look what has change in 4 years in your area
01:28 < luna_> nothing
01:29 < luna_> you send over so much money in dollars
01:29 < luna_> but you families are as poor
01:29 < luna_> i want to reach out to your concience
01:29 < luna_> lets see whether ULO is an elected polititian
01:30 < luna_> well he ddnt get so many votes compared with other elecetions
01:30 < luna_> and i want to thank you
01:30 < luna_> and i must say that we really wished that you still controlled the city centre
01:30 < luna_> since the pfp evicted i keep the shop shut
01:31 < luna_> they are animals
01:31 < luna_> and they are threatening small business if they dont open up
01:31 < luna_> but i am not
01:32 < luna_> you are talking about how our kids are leaving for the USA
01:32 < luna_> where our dream is not to have this or that job
01:32 < luna_> but to get money in the USA
01:32 < luna_> and help their cmmunities
01:32 < luna_> but we cant see where all this money is going
01:33 < luna_> apparently foreign currency being sent "back"
01:33 < luna_> to mexico account for the 3rd biggest source of money in this country
01:33 < luna_> an dour people are being treated badly there
01:34 < luna_> they are shot by animals / racist as soon as they cross the frontier
01:34 < luna_> they do the shitty jobs
01:34 < luna_> and we heard they are building this big wall
01:34 < luna_> and they travel all the way up to become victims of discrimindation, racism, et
01:35 < luna_> etc
03:01 <@stacy> there are 30 trucks headed for the university and other places
03:01 <@stacy> with AFI and large arms
03:01 <@stacy> stay alert and ready
03:02 <@stacy> all the families of the disappeared and prisoners should call the radio station
03:02 <@stacy> anyone who has been the victim of violence by the federal police
03:03 <@stacy> thank you to Miguel Pachico for the food just now
03:04 <@stacy> we're going to a musical break because there is a personal call
03:08 <@stacy> 2 white trucks with suspect people are going to the teachers hotel
03:09 <@stacy> could the people in the hotel please call
03:09 <@stacy> caller
03:09 <@stacy> i'm looking for my father
03:10 <@stacy> what is his name?
03:11 <@stacy> Juan Jose Flores Hernandez
03:12 <@stacy> we were just observing
03:13 <@stacy> music pause
03:13 < Sweeper> "going to a musical pause, with calm and tranquility"
03:13 < Sweeper> "a musical pause, comrades, please"
03:14 < Sweeper> (music!)
03:17 < Sweeper> well comradees, the music is over, and we have a message
03:17 < Sweeper> a message pleas
03:17 < Sweeper> eof course, our message is brief
03:17 < Sweeper> some comrades have detained a member of the group named jorge francisco
03:18 < Sweeper> [confused, somthing about liberty, disciplinary measrues, and barricades]
03:18 < Sweeper> "jorge francisco is an active member"
03:19 < Sweeper> "with this tension, we sometimes confuse some people with others. please maintaint calm and discipline"
03:19 < Sweeper> "be wary of traps. and be calm,. we will replace the barricades"
03:19 < Sweeper> "we remind you that today is the day of the dead, and we needs your literary skeletons"
03:19 < Sweeper> "and your calls and messages"
03:20 < Sweeper> "and we ask that the barricade reps meet at 1pm at radio appo to reach accords"
03:20 < Sweeper> today in the newspaper were pictures of the magnificent march of yesterday
03:20 < Sweeper> where 2000 people marched
03:20 < Sweeper> some were cops in plainclothes
03:21 < Sweeper> there are intesting pictures of these police disguised
03:21 < Sweeper> in the back pages are interesting articles
03:21 < Sweeper> among them is "vowels" written by aucencia gomez, I will rea despite it being long
03:21 < Sweeper> to keep us from being bored (pun)
03:22 < Sweeper> [something about fox snding people to kill an adolescent]
03:22  * Sweeper haets latin newspapers
03:23 < Sweeper> [seomthing about the farisees seeing the cost of a phirric victory]
03:23 < Sweeper> [plea to people to protest at american embassies]
03:24 < Sweeper> [calling people worms, saying they will be smashed]
03:24 < Sweeper> "let us plant in the sheepish mob the seed of liberty"
03:24 < Sweeper> "let from them come a decent human generation"
03:25 < Sweeper> "that will be our greatest revenge"
03:25 < Sweeper> "we won't be able to do this with the rich/priviliedged kids"
03:25 < Sweeper> [something about the 5th of may wrt 29th of october]
03:26 < Sweeper> "we ran several times, we aree brave but not stupid"
03:27 < Sweeper> [neither their propaganda or their bullets can stop us]
03:27 < Sweeper> [the 29th we won the strategic victory, and we still ahve tht advantage]
03:28 < Sweeper> despite cops in our midst (haha!), we were brave a stood firm
03:28  * Sweeper really really haets latin newspaper writing styles
03:29 < Sweeper> "time is our ally, they will tire of chasing us"
03:29 < Sweeper> "we can also disguise ourselves"
03:29 < Sweeper> "in the analyisis of our problems and their solutions we will learn more"
03:30 < Sweeper> "we march proudly, and people in 25 countries march in solidarity"
03:30 < Sweeper> "we have a call"
03:30 < Sweeper> "go ahead"
03:30 < Sweeper> "I want to tell the feds, esp the proc gen of repub"
03:31 < Sweeper> "that they are violating the 6th amendement (freedom of speech, basically)"
03:31 < Sweeper> "secondly, it is clear that the state is impeding the freedom of expression"
03:31 < Sweeper> "and are vilating the guarantees of our consititution"
03:32 < Sweeper> "the exec part of the country is violating civ rights"
03:32 < Sweeper> "the absurdism and disease of power is endangering the larg portion of the citizens and workers"
03:32 < Sweeper> "thes wrong acts are the fault of the prez"
03:32 < Sweeper> "I call on the prez to call off the fed forces"
03:33 < Sweeper> "I want to tell the people of OX, and the feds.." [somthing about historic part of town]
03:33 < Sweeper> "despite the feds who are suppsoed to prevent disorder, there is chaos in OX"
03:34 < Sweeper> {ok, I officially detest all latin formal-speak. LOL LETS STRING ADJECTIVES AND VERBS TOGETHER FOR ENDLESS SENTANCES}
03:35 < Sweeper> "the intervetion of the citicens is paramount"
03:35 < Sweeper> "the feds should allow this constitutional right"
03:38 < Sweeper> "an important email for all the uni stations: www.asambleapopulardeoaxaca.com"
03:38 <@stacy> asembleapopulardeoaxaca.com
03:39 < Sweeper> it is important of OXans to be unitied in these delicate times to ensure the consti. rights, exp of article 29
03:39 < Sweeper> *esp
03:40 < Sweeper> something about people helping someone who won't stay in office
03:40 < Sweeper> "I think the freedom of expression is a fundamental right for the people of oaxaca"
03:45 < Sweeper> "comrade? our phones seem to be going out"
03:45 < Sweeper> "we ask the son of a companion detained in (somewhere) to get in touch with us"
03:45 < Sweeper> "you know that this phone works when telmex wants, and not otherwise"
03:45 < Sweeper> "musical pause"
03:46 < Sweeper> (song is about workers who should protest, incidentally)
03:48 < Sweeper> (something about his pants, and institutions)
03:52 <@stacy> there will be a meeting of a representative from each barricade
03:55 <@stacy> caller
03:55 <@stacy> 'crying in the phone
03:55 <@stacy> why? why?
03:56 <@stacy> the came in with arms
03:57 <@stacy> 'announcer thanks the caller
03:58 <@stacy> greetings to the barricades
03:58 <@stacy> we were living in peace before the PFP came
03:59 < Sweeper> "we should do all possible to reestablish order"
03:59 < Sweeper> "but not at the hands of forgein forces or pseudo politicians"
03:59 < Sweeper> "next caller"
03:59 < Sweeper> (too quiet, can't tell)
04:00 < Sweeper> [something about the gov violating sovreignty of OX]
04:00 < Sweeper> "why are they here opressing us, if we are sovreing?"
04:01 < Sweeper> "let all hope that bastard leaves"
04:02 < Sweeper> "constitution says the people have the unalienable right to change the form of their government to refuse any kind of intervention"
04:02 < Sweeper> "of course, we can't all govern all the regions, this is why we have the gov structure"
04:02 < Sweeper> "all three are supposed to be independant sections"
04:03 < Sweeper> "eleccions are determined by the suffrage of the poeple, but when there is fraud, a resource is there to make things conform"
04:03 < Sweeper> "when there are inconformities, the courts resolve the elections"
04:04 < Sweeper> [something aobut entrenched party, ruling courts, etc]
04:04 < Sweeper> [ortiz is an opressor, sent people to die]
04:05 < Sweeper> [some people welcoming the PFP, ortiz is bad, etc]
04:05 < Sweeper> [these poeple are resonsible for the injustice]
04:06 < Sweeper> [let our voice go out t the world]
04:06 < Sweeper> [let our voice as the people of OX cross borders and the int commmunity be informed of what is happened]
04:07 < Sweeper> caller:
04:07 < Sweeper> "no reason to be sad on anguished"
04:07 < Sweeper> "we need to keep fighting"
04:07 < Sweeper> "there are sits we can't control"
04:07 < Sweeper> "we can control our attitude and our hunger for justice"
04:07 < Sweeper> "as che guevara said, people die, but ideals don't"
04:08 < Sweeper> "to the people that listen to us, this s our house, let your soft feds see how they like things out here in OX"
04:08 < Sweeper> "the governor is supposed to govern for all, not just for a small part"
04:08 < Sweeper> "tomorrow we will go forward, and keep blocking the roads"
04:09 < Sweeper> "thanks to our people's mobilization, and thanks to the people who are protecting out radio installation"
04:10 < Sweeper> "we are showing you , people of OX, what is going on, how the FPF is operating, and not under city authority"
04:10 < Sweeper> [somthing about hilter]
04:11 < Sweeper> "we as people have concluded that repeating a lie doesn't make it true"
04:11 < Sweeper> "fox denies everything, and we still have dead people, and FPF convoys running in the streets"
04:11 < Sweeper> "there are pogroms run by the state"
04:11 < Sweeper> "we ar seeing these thing sin the streets"
04:12 < Sweeper> "our companion leader who were fotographed have had the bad luck to be turned in by their neighbors"
04:12 < Sweeper> {I'm taking off in 8 minutes}
04:13 < Sweeper> "in our movement, there are no levels, everyone is equal as humans"
04:13 < Sweeper> "pause for caller, failure"
04:13 < Sweeper> "a hello to our comprades from the Uni of Chapingo (sP)"
04:14 < Sweeper> "a recognition to the actions taken by our friends at all the univiersities"
04:14 < Sweeper> "our work is hard, but out maroale is high, this is our movement"
04:14 < Sweeper> caller:
04:14 < Sweeper> "I'm and older person, and have been obeserving"
04:14 < Sweeper> "to mr Ruiz:
04:15 < Sweeper> [he's asking if he's on air]
04:15 < Sweeper> "mr ruize, it is necessary for you to go to a srhink, because youheard what the senators said"
04:15 < Sweeper> "but he still thinkg he has authority, and thinks he is omnipotent"
04:15 < Sweeper> "he knows that he has made errors, and commited crimes"
04:16 < Sweeper> "I think it is unfrair that he wast time, and make the thousnads of poeple suffer"
04:16 < Sweeper> "even more now that the feds have been brought in"
04:16 < Sweeper> "I think he is broken in hte head, and needs a shrink
04:16 < Sweeper> "I invite this person and all his chohorts to examine their consciences and looks at the suffering of then peope"
04:16 < Sweeper> "most pople are is disagreement"
04:17 < Sweeper> "yesterday's march was only a small % of our nbumbers"
04:17 < Sweeper> "what are the feds doing ehre? they are sent, and I want mr fox to know this is one of his worst errors"
04:18 < Sweeper> "someone already in prez for 7 years should know that his orders to send in the feds to OX is another of his horrible mistakes"
04:18 < Sweeper> "to the police, I say that they are making a mistake too"
04:18 < Sweeper> "for this reason I call to the people that each contriubutre their grain of sand, and do not tire"
04:18 < Sweeper> "we need to keep fighting"
04:19 < Sweeper> "to mr guillano, who is from can~aca, who has done things he shoulkd not have"
04:19 < Sweeper> "he has not even been good to the people of his region, but has dragged his feet"
04:19 < Sweeper> "and he is reponsible for the death of the retuired teacher"
04:19 < Sweeper> "and the feds should leave, goodnight"
04:20 < Sweeper> {sweeper taking a break}
04:23 < salaud> Sweeper: you are rocking it
04:27 <@stacy> there is a memorial to brad will in Santa Lucia with flowers
04:28 <@stacy> and for everyone who is left without a whole family
04:29 <@stacy> caller
04:30 < Sweeper> (too good to pass up)
04:30 < Sweeper> (he's calling the feds dickheads)
04:30 < Sweeper> (he notices that the feds are lsitening to appo, and saids to watch out, because the poeple don't forget or forgive)
06:56 < guest-en> Hello, what is going on near Radio Universidad?
06:56 < guest-en> 30 cars with arms, special police somewher?
06:56 < guest-en> near gasstation/gasolinera
06:57 < guest-en> #oaxaca
07:23 < mahtin> guest-en you want to type /join #oaxaca
11:56 < heth> hmm...radio APPO is only relaying noise...i hope nothing wrong happened at the uni
12:24 < MM> Maybe Mex intelligence got some help from the USA NSA internet cyber brigade; the evil Cyborg 902nd?
12:28 < MM> party joke, but maybe not: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/3cyborg/
12:30 < MM> Are all the mirrors producing noise too?
12:46 < MM> http://vientos.info/cml/
12:47 < MM> has more stations, maybe they say something?
13:00 < MM> 0445518079853
13:00 < MM> is their tel.nr but is wrong; what to change on the nr?
13:01 < MM> esso es numero telefonica de ellos, contiene un error, quel?
13:06 < MM> 20:38 Un reporte por Radio Universidad de Oaxaca indica que un operativo de la AFI con 100 camionetas se dirigiría hacia ciudad universitaria.
13:07 < MM> ultima mensaje: 3:43 Es de madrugada, Oaxaca sueña, México sueña, Latinoamérica sueña, el Mundo sueña... Radio Universidad ¡transmite!
13:46 < MM> english: http://vientos.info/cml/?q=node/6185
14:01 < gus> (radio is back)
14:01 < gus> they are calling to block all the streets around the radio universidad
14:16 < lupa_> all come here to around radio 
14:16 < lupa_> to came to this pacific revolution
14:16 < lupa_> we can feel the gas
14:16 < lupa_> coming from windows
14:17 < lupa_> we have to make human walls to protect the radio
14:17 < lupa_> that the world could see all being here and don't leave dead alone this radio
14:18 < lupa_> police and paramilitary are direct shoting univeritary radio
14:18 < lupa_> we have to make strong "barrikadas"
14:19 < lupa_> come out and take a video camera and rec all this things...
14:19 < yuri> oi
14:19 < lupa_> imagine how many power have rich people 
14:19 < lupa_> and government
14:19 < lupa_> we have to tel enemy
14:19 < lupa_> we are here and we are stand
14:20 < lupa_> and we are defending our ideals
14:20 < lupa_> we will not abandon this objetive
14:20 < lupa_> come out and be with us!!
14:21 < lupa_> (they are talking too quick)
14:21 < lupa_> (they are shoting gases)
14:22 < lupa_> if we coul't be on air we have to mobilize.. to make plans...
14:22 < lupa_> we have to care our organizative  process
14:22 < lupa_> care the way of our fight
14:23 < lupa_> we have to care our "asamblea popular"
14:23 < mexicatl> !mexicatl will now do the translation
14:23 < lupa_> (ok...mecicatl go on)
14:24 < mexicatl> we have learned form our contact with other latin americans
14:24 < mexicatl> their struggles
14:24 < mexicatl> using electronic communications, sms, all that will lead to victory
14:24 < mexicatl> but it the struggle will not be just won internationally, but locally also
14:25 < mexicatl> for the dignity of the people, we must defend the radio, or at least be a witness
14:25 < mexicatl> ruiz and fox must now that the people of oaxaca will not bend over
14:25 < mexicatl> we will resist to the end
14:26 < mexicatl> ring the bells of the church's, like that 16 of september (ndt 1818)
14:26 < mexicatl> immediate mobilizations is the key to victory
14:26 < mexicatl> we must be peaceful
14:26 < mexicatl> let's be an example to the people of mexico and the world
14:27 < mexicatl> it is the authorities who are bullies, thiefs
14:27 < mexicatl> if we go off air, then remember there's a call for mobilization tomorrow, friday at 11 am
14:27 < mexicatl> at *something* juarez
14:28 < mexicatl> students must participate, they shall be contacted through sms
14:28 < mexicatl> on monday, 11 am there's the student meeting
14:28 < mexicatl> !other meeting i missed on sunday
14:29 < mexicatl> reading of the declarations from the university authorities in mexico city
14:29 < mexicatl> not one step back, we must resist
14:29 < mexicatl> we will find a way to communicate with the people of oaxaca
14:30 < mexicatl> we make a call nationally to meet for the 2nd national student meeting 11-12 november
14:30 < mexicatl> we are all oaxaca
14:30 < mexicatl> all to the constitutive conference of the APPO
14:30 < mexicatl> call for three caravans, north, center and south
14:31 < mexicatl> reports of suspicios cars every block behind the university campus
14:31 < mexicatl> perhaps undercover PFP
14:32 < mexicatl> we condemm these acts that encourage paramilitary attacks
14:32 < mexicatl> the pri-sympathizers who have threatened the radio
14:32 < mexicatl> a chopper is flying over the city
14:33 < mexicatl> the campus i mean
14:33 < mexicatl> we fear that the chopper could come down and take them all like it happened in the past few days
14:33 < mexicatl> we are a pacifist, popular mobilization
14:34 < mexicatl> that will go forward and organize pushed by the federal government
14:34 < mexicatl> call for nurses and doctors to help in solidarity
14:35 < mexicatl> to all health professionals to set up a first aid tent near the university
14:35 < mexicatl> call for all near the "cinco señores" to be peaceful, to not seek direct confrontation
14:35 < mexicatl> to come to the radio universidad
14:36 < mexicatl> music break to raise our spirits
14:36 < mexicatl> there are problems related to the music
14:36 < mexicatl> we must listen to our hymn, music to calm us down and relax us so that there aren't wounded
14:36 < mexicatl> remember that this is a peaceful resistance
14:37 < mexicatl> !musical break
14:37 < bossa> e bravo mexicatl
14:37 < bossa> :)
14:37 < mexicatl> !can someone do a quick summary in french? i need to post this and i can't
14:37 < gus> venceremos!
14:38 < jazz> french summary:
14:38 < jazz> Une attaque contre l'universit? d'Oaxaca, o? se trouve la radio de l'APPO, a lieu pour le moment. Les assaillants sont des paramilitaires et/ou des membres de la police f?d?rale. Des voitures banalis?es r?dent autour de l'universit? et un h?licopt?re survolle le campus. 
14:38 < jazz> Une attaque contre l'universit? d'Oaxaca, o? se trouve la radio de l'APPO, a lieu pour le moment. Les assaillants sont des paramilitaires et/ou des membres de la police f?d?rale. Des voitures banalis?es r?dent autour de l'universit? et un h?licopt?re survolle le campus. 
14:38 < jazz> Les animateurs de la radio rappellent qu'ils sont un mouvement populaire et pacifiste, ils sont d?cid?s ? r?sister et demandent gens de venir les aider, en ?vitant la confrontation frontale. Un appel est lanc? aux m?decins et infirmier-e-s ? se rendre ? l'universit?.
14:38 < jazz> Source: radio APPO via indymedia.channel.
14:39 < mexicatl> merci jazz! :)
14:39 < mexicatl> !continues
14:39 < mexicatl> this is our opportunity to show what we are made of
14:40 < mexicatl> we've made many calls, made declaracions
14:40 < mexicatl> we will resists even if it means we will die, because we shall resist
14:40 < mexicatl> when we were attacked, shot at, they surely expected us to attack back
14:41 < mexicatl> the people of oaxaca has shown us to be valiant, brave
14:41 < mexicatl> the older women have shown us
14:41 < mexicatl> we will resist
14:41 < mexicatl> people of oaxaca, when you listen no more to our voices, then it means that they have entered the radio
14:42 < mexicatl> correction if they don't listen to our voices it is because they have detained us
14:42 < mexicatl> because we shall stay on the microphones until the very end
14:43 < mexicatl> call from the appo to defend absolutely the radio universidad
14:43 < mexicatl> to defend the students of benito juarez autonomous university
14:43 < mexicatl> who have become the voice of the people
14:43 < mexicatl> we must be prudent
14:44 < mexicatl> being evicted from the zocalo
14:44 < mexicatl> the government has confused prudence with stupidity
14:44 < mexicatl> we are making a general call to advance on the campus
14:44 < mexicatl> we won over the french in spite of the great differences
14:45 < mexicatl> so long ago
14:45 < mexicatl> and all oaxacans now are descendant of those, to rise up against these invaders
14:45 < mexicatl> like president juarez showed us we must stand up in resistance and conservatives, the reactionnaries
14:46 < mexicatl> they shall not pass
14:46 < mexicatl> let follow the example of him, the flores magon, all those that have stop up to the invaders
14:46 < mexicatl> we will not permit under any condicions to submit to the invaders
14:47 < mexicatl> justice is on our side
14:47 < mexicatl> to the teachers of oaxaca, advance to the radio university
14:47 < mexicatl> to defend all that radio universidad
14:48 < mexicatl> the people of oaxaca are proud and we are brave
14:48 < mexicatl> until victory always
14:48 < mexicatl> the person who just spoke is from the APPO, in charge of security
14:48 < mexicatl> a human roadblock has been set up near the university
14:49 < mexicatl> to the people of the world, to the people of the americas and the world
14:49 < mexicatl> today, fox, calderon and neoliberalism they seek to crush a long resistance
14:50 < mexicatl> fox, you also had a mother, remember we do not have arms, but we have everything you don't
14:50 < mexicatl> we are a dignified people
14:50 < mexicatl> to all the people of the americas, to all mexicans
14:50 < mexicatl> we are a hungry poor people
14:51 < mexicatl> but we are dignified
14:51 < mexicatl> and if those that are armed think we shall knell, then they are mistaken
14:51 < mexicatl> like the people of chekoslovakia
14:51 < mexicatl> we are indians of the america
14:51 < mexicatl> we are the indians of mexico
14:52 < mexicatl> we are the indians of oaxaca
14:52 < mexicatl> zapotecs, mixtex, chatinos
14:52 < mexicatl> fox, you are a traitor
14:52 < mexicatl> to ally yourself with a shit like ruiz
14:52 < mexicatl> we will resistü
14:52 < mexicatl> !
14:52 < mexicatl> there are vehicules with judicial police behind the university
14:53 < mexicatl> the pfp action is to distract from the invasion from behind
14:53 < mexicatl> we call to surround the university
14:53 < mexicatl> it is true what the doctor says, they think we shall leave, escape
14:54 < mexicatl> do not run alone to the university
14:54 < mexicatl> the blood of juarez and the magon brothers runs through our veins
14:54 < mexicatl> there are reports of two convoys of military coming near cinco señores
14:55  * sin^guia wishes there were teleport-machines so he could teleport himself to oaxaca
14:55 < mexicatl> to take the university they need the PFP with all their equipment, but also paramilitaries, and due to the our "amazing strength" they must also send the army
14:56 < mexicatl> but we have something very powerful
14:56 < mexicatl> the word
14:56 < mexicatl> but we also have the "bazookas" to launch fireworks :)
14:56 < mexicatl> the must send all of these to take us over
14:57 < mexicatl> the bipdeal zoo of ruiz
14:57 < mexicatl> bipedal*
14:57 < mexicatl> we thought one time they sought a peaceful solution
14:57 < mexicatl> but now, places, choppers are surveilling us
14:58 < mexicatl> they are detaining our compañeros
14:58 < mexicatl> compañe@s*
14:58 < mexicatl> compañer@s*
14:58 < mexicatl> they believe that with their equipment they are invincible
14:59 < mexicatl> we will resist and protect our station which is part of our life
14:59 < mexicatl> we shall remain dignified because we represent somewhat the people of oaxaca
14:59 < mexicatl> we are ready to resist tear gas
15:00 < mexicatl> but we shall also use humor which is also a weapon
15:00 < mexicatl> someone is at the door
15:00 < mexicatl> the political level of our struggle has been transcendant
15:00 < mexicatl> we must create a different structure, a different country
15:01 < mexicatl> the world is looking at us, the commune of oaxaca
15:01 < mexicatl> the people will peacefully create a new form of government and lead to a new dawn in oaxaca
15:02 < mexicatl> when people tried to ring the bells
15:02 < mexicatl> they had no ropes to ring
15:02 < mexicatl> the churches were ordered to remove the ropes
15:03 < mexicatl> we call all the people of the seven regions to go to the streets
15:03 < mexicatl> and man the bloquades
15:04 < mexicatl> we call all people to follow the march coming to the radio
15:04 < mexicatl> the detainess have been released, the ask to give their experiences
15:05 < mexicatl> they took us and they beat us really badly
15:05 < mexicatl> one of the detainees shows signs of violence
15:05 < mexicatl> i interceded when they beat up my friend
15:06 < mexicatl> they told us that because we were causing problems we were being detained
15:06 < mexicatl> i said to calm down to not beat us
15:06 < mexicatl> he was beaten even though he was in cuffs
15:06  * luna can help translate if people need a hand
15:07 < mexicatl> son of whores who show their true valor, to beat a defenceless person
15:07 < mexicatl> this tells us who they us
15:07 < mexicatl> they made them drink gasoline/vinegar?
15:08 < mexicatl> calling for radio guelageta who have denounced the attacks
15:08 < luna> if they provocke us we are going to take petrol
15:09 < mexicatl> we have received many msgs asking to ask us to ask for the university director
15:09 < luna> and if you kill d dog the flees die
15:09 < mexicatl> in the most respectful way we ask for him to come immedietly
15:09 < mexicatl> we know that the university authorites have already denounced the actions
15:10 < mexicatl> and now we ask for you to come here to the radio
15:10 < mexicatl> we must reinforce the human barriers
15:10 < mexicatl> the know that the blockades will be put up again
15:10 < mexicatl> the media is coming the people are coming
15:11 < mexicatl> we thank the presence of the media because they protect us somewhat
15:11 < mexicatl> because they also run risks
15:11 < mexicatl> after the assasination of the american journalist
15:11 < mexicatl> and ask authorities to not shoot because they might shoot a german or a french or a mexican
15:12 < mexicatl> who is here doing their job
15:12 < mexicatl> in cinco señores five trucks with army
15:12 < mexicatl> coming with the best of intentions like the PFP
15:12 < mexicatl> is there a state of siege for they to send in the army
15:13 < mexicatl> make a call again to join the march from montoya
15:13 < mexicatl> we must make marches from all over the city
15:13 < mexicatl> we must also be careful
15:14 < mexicatl> oaxaca must be like an ant-hill
15:14 < mexicatl> rivers of people coming to radio universidad
15:14 < luna> the bridge in 5 se?ores
15:14 < luna> ppl
15:14 < luna> raise a barricade there
15:14 < mexicatl> reports that cinco señores does not have a barricade
15:15 < mexicatl> people are closing off streets
15:15 < mexicatl> talking of the paramilitary attack on the radio
15:16 < mexicatl> to surround the university
15:16 < mexicatl> we know who have weapons, and we have sticks and machetes which we can't use to defend this radio, tools we use
15:16 < mexicatl> in cinco señores, three trucks full of soldiers with rifles
15:17 < mexicatl> this is a peaceful resistance
15:17 < mexicatl> i remember in the 60s in the states they gave flowers to the army
15:17 < mexicatl> we can also do this and give it to the army in their trucks, marigolds
15:17 < mexicatl> we are not seeking confrontation
15:18 < mexicatl> but each must protect our bases
15:18 < mexicatl> nobody should ignore their front
15:19 < mexicatl> discussion of the peaceful resistance to a comment of offensive
15:19 < mexicatl> this is a tactic and an agreement of the APPO
15:19 < mexicatl> we will not be offensive, ever
15:19 < mexicatl> we ask the people of oaxaca, this is a peaceful resistance
15:21 < mexicatl> if in desperate moment we turn to violence, we must calm down
15:21 < mexicatl> people are making the PFP turn back in cinco señores
15:21 < mexicatl> a march is coming from cruzero de montoya heading here
15:21 < mexicatl> the people are coming here, and must avoid confrontation
15:22 < mexicatl> we shall not seek confrontation with the PFP and must never give them a reason to attack us
15:22 < mexicatl> we do not want any more martyrs
15:23 < mexicatl> we will not attack, but a complete defence
15:23 < mexicatl> in san cristobal they are rebroadcasting our signal
15:24 < mexicatl> we shall continue resisting creating a new way of life here
15:24 < mexicatl> were we'll all have a voice
15:24 < mexicatl> stay calm with a burning heart
15:24 < mexicatl> !musical break, finally
15:26 < mexicatl> !back
15:26 < mexicatl> the authoritve operation has not advanced
15:27 < mexicatl> thank you to all the people
15:27 < mexicatl> we are showing our peaceful resistance
15:27 < mexicatl> it is easy for us younger people, but not for our older people
15:28 < mexicatl> in cinco señores there are many people who came after call
15:28 < mexicatl> the bells are ringing in cinco señores
15:28 < mexicatl> there are still the trucks and PFP but can't advance
15:29 < mexicatl> they can't move forward because the people heard the call
15:29 < mexicatl> no to agressions, not because we're afraid, which we are, it is normal, who wants to be hit or shot
15:29 < mexicatl> but because we are peaceful
15:30 < mexicatl> we must not fall prey to the agressions
15:30 < mexicatl> a message to the priests
15:30 < mexicatl> if hidalgo y costilla fought next to the poor with the banner of the virgin of guadalupe
15:30 < mexicatl> then you are traitor priests
15:31 < mexicatl> the churches were built by the people, the indigenous
15:31 < mexicatl> we must then ring the bells, have a concert of bells
15:32 < mexicatl> all people in all the communities must organize
15:32 < mexicatl> every single ranch in this town must mobilize
15:32 < mexicatl> the downtrodden the poor have given mexico's independence
15:33 < mexicatl> we must denounce the traitors
15:33 < mexicatl> the church
15:33 < mexicatl> we are not beaten, we are walking forward
15:33 < mexicatl> and we are a dignified people
15:34 < mexicatl> who will sacrifice his or her life if necessary
15:34 < mexicatl> this people has the right to happiness also
15:34 < mexicatl> call now
15:35 < mexicatl> he says "
15:35 < mexicatl> the PFP didn't come to settle things
15:35 < mexicatl> their presence affected the movement
15:36 < mexicatl> while they advance removing the barricades
15:36 < mexicatl> the PFP enters homes, beating people, in spite of what they say
15:36 < mexicatl> it is clear regardless of what they say that the people do not want ruiz
15:37 < mexicatl> he must see the dead, he must think
15:37 < mexicatl> i congratulate the people who have led the movement
15:37 < mexicatl> for it has been difficult
15:37 < mexicatl> appreciates the lack of confrontation
15:38 < mexicatl> a barricade can be put up again
15:39 < mexicatl> if the PFP advances, then we must always concentrate in our bases, regardless of the barricads
15:39 < mexicatl> congratulates the people who are setting an example
15:40 < mexicatl> happy that violence has not been taken as an alternative by the people of oaxaca
15:40 < mexicatl> the authorities is not here impartially
15:40 < mexicatl> !can someone take over for a few minutes?
15:40 < mexicatl> we must stop the detentions
15:40 < mexicatl> the torture
15:41 < mexicatl> the people must know this nationally
15:41 < mexicatl> so that this stops
15:41 < mexicatl> i congratulate the students
15:41 < mexicatl> " finishes
15:41 < ruche> disculpa, que quieres decir con "take over"?
15:41 < yuri> tomada
15:41 < mexicatl> tomar rienda de la situacion
15:41 < yuri> tomar
15:41 < mexicatl> traduccion digo
15:42 < mexicatl> reports to reinforce certain barricades
15:42 < mexicatl> call from the university rector "
15:43 < mexicatl> i direct myself to all the people of the oaxaca and the authorites
15:43 < ruche> can't translate, sorry
15:43 < mexicatl> who are attempting to violate the rights of the people
15:44 < mexicatl> struggles passes through difficult moments, and this is one of them
15:44 < mexicatl> the public university is a place of dialogue and expression of ideas
15:44 < mexicatl> the radio can not be taken over
15:45 < mexicatl> the problem is not the university he tell the federal government
15:45 < mexicatl> the government must be careful of the repercussion
15:45 < mexicatl> fox must not do anything
15:45 < mexicatl> it is a poor university, that is marginalized
15:45 < mexicatl> and does not need this
15:46 < mexicatl> dialogue is needed
15:46 < mexicatl> the university must not be assaulted, it is to assault history
15:46 < mexicatl> " finished
15:47 < mexicatl> the rector's calls makes me think of the call by the rector of the UNAM
15:47 < mexicatl> and i am proud of having such a dignified oaxacan
15:47  * luna one moment mexcatl, hold it for a sec, i have to publish something and am right back
15:47 < mexicatl> call from canada
15:48 < mexicatl> a priest
15:48 < mexicatl> " many eyes are on oaxaca
15:48 < mexicatl> change their ways, to the president, the governor
15:48 < mexicatl> to the PFP before listening to the tyrant
15:49 < mexicatl> listen to the word of god 'thou shall not kill'
15:49 < mexicatl> they come from the people too
15:49 < mexicatl> "
15:49 < mexicatl> finished
15:50 < mexicatl> the rector called to denounce the situation
15:50 < mexicatl> call from APPO
15:50 < mexicatl> "
15:50 < mexicatl> the radio is the link to the people
15:51 < mexicatl> the people in front of the PFP
15:51 < mexicatl> must step back and separate from the covered provocateurs 
15:51 < mexicatl> there are people that are behind the university that are armed
15:52 < mexicatl> we must be organized and be ready to step back
15:52 < mexicatl> the APPO will not rest until the invader has left and ruiz has quit
15:53 < mexicatl> we must step back a few meters to separete themselves
15:53 < mexicatl> the numbers of the presidency must be broadcast to call and demand that the PFP must leave
15:54 < mexicatl> the mass mobilizations are important in our struggle
15:54 < mexicatl> "
15:54 < mexicatl> finished
15:54 < mexicatl> to all people in cinco señores, to step back a few meters to avoid confrontation
15:55 < mexicatl> the pretensions of the PFP are not acceptable to be surrounded
15:55 < mexicatl> we know that many people are coming to radio universidad
15:56 < mexicatl> we must continue until the PFP leaves
15:56 < mexicatl> people must also come to the doors of the radio
15:56 < mexicatl> in a part of the city, pri-sympathizers are shooting at people to prevent them from coming
15:57 < mexicatl> rector of the university "
15:57 < mexicatl> i am here at the barricade of the cinco señores
15:57 < mexicatl> i have been unable to pass
15:57 < mexicatl> it is time to defend the univesity
15:57 < mexicatl> the radio
15:58 < mexicatl> the voice of the people that call for peaceful resistance
15:59 < mexicatl> the most beautiful thing that mexico has is its people
15:59 < mexicatl> i am here at the barricade
15:59 < mexicatl> i am present to protest and express my views
15:59 < mexicatl> for the radio university and all
15:59 < mexicatl> "
16:00 < mexicatl> the rector of the university
16:01 < mexicatl> various meetings of pri-sympathizers and paramilitaries
16:01 < mexicatl> information of roadblocks and marches
16:01 < mexicatl> message from the cinco señores:
16:02 < mexicatl> one detained "el conejo" burned in his hand
16:02 < mexicatl> and three minors
16:02 < mexicatl> one is 12, marcelo, the others are 15
16:02 < mexicatl> call from the neighbors for information
16:03 < mexicatl> "el conejo"/the rabbit is really important to the group, hasn't slept in three days and was detained
16:03 < mexicatl> calls to come to oaxaca, but avoid the roadblocks
16:03 < mexicatl> take secondary roads
16:04 < mexicatl> two more first aid stands will be put up near the university
16:04 < mexicatl> more details will be given out soon
16:05 < mexicatl> we must surround the campus
16:05 < mexicatl> and it is also good to help the neighbors
16:05 < mexicatl> there is a protest in LA, in front of the consulate
16:06 < mexicatl> recap, four detainees: el conejo, 28, marcelo 12, and two more 15-16
16:06 < mexicatl> el conejo is really important to the barricade
16:07 < mexicatl> reports of merida yucatan, people are listening to what is happening
16:07 < mexicatl> march from an environmental conference
16:08 < mexicatl> handing mike to a student leader from the UNAM
16:08 < mexicatl> "the repression is terrible
16:08 < mexicatl> the illegal searches
16:08 < mexicatl> the detentions
16:08 < mexicatl> have complicated the situation
16:09 < mexicatl> happy with the rector, similar to the UNAM's rector in 1968
16:09 < mexicatl> the solution to the problem if for urtiz to leave
16:10 < mexicatl> the governor is a provateur, who has encouraged paramilitaries
16:10 < mexicatl> this violence is not worth that governor
16:11 < mexicatl> until that changes the PFP is an invading force
16:11 < mexicatl> "
16:11  * luna ready mexicatl- WELL DONE, fight on
16:11 < mexicatl> lopez obrador has allied itself to the APPO
16:11  * mexicatl thanks, will be back in a few minutes
16:11  * luna see u 
16:11 < luna> -
16:12 < luna> -
16:12  * luna Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 10:21:51 AM CST
16:12 < luna> we have to defend freedom of speach
16:12 < luna> speech 
16:12 < luna> and it is really important we have this voice of freedom
16:12 < luna> and the movement need this
16:12 < luna> we have to defend this station
16:13 < luna> do you thing there will be political consecuences 
16:13 < luna> when calderon take the presidentcy?
16:13 < luna> of course
16:13 < luna> this is a national and international issue
16:13 < luna> the repression, the state violence is out there
16:13 < luna> they think they can hide it, but its out there
16:13 < luna> -
16:14 < luna> there are some questions...
16:14 < luna> -
16:14 < luna> fox...
16:14 < luna> compas from the hunger strickes
16:14 < luna> -
16:14 < luna> we ask
16:14 < luna> why the PRD secretary 
16:14 < luna> gave the go ahead to the invasion in oaxaca
16:15 < luna> `PRD is the leftwing national party
16:15 < luna> it is not true
16:15 < luna> we are totally agaist this
16:15 < luna> we have publicly said this
16:15 < luna> we said it shouldnt be like this
16:15 < luna> `blah blah
16:15 < luna> the interview was publish in a national newspaper
16:15 < luna> -
16:16 < luna> we are waiting for a phne in from canada
16:16 < luna> -
16:16 < luna> we have here a compa 
16:16 < luna> who is here 
16:16 < luna> to denounce the dissapearence of her daughter
16:16 < luna> and she is crying outside
16:16 < luna> 3 children in 5 s4enyores have been arrested
16:16 < luna> -
16:16 < luna> canada
16:16 < luna> hello?
16:17 < luna> good morning how are you
16:17 < luna> `?
16:17 < luna> we are frm the justicia y paz comitte
16:17 < luna> and would like to leave a message
16:17 < luna> people from the anglican church and many groups
16:17 < luna> are with you
16:17 < luna> journalists and many people
16:17 < luna> we are watching working day and night
16:18 < luna> and we just want to say we are sending a delegation
16:18 < luna> and demonstrating in the consulate
16:18 < luna> and nothing is going to go unnoticed
16:18 < luna> --
16:18 < luna> we call all neighbourhoods to come to support the university campus
16:19 < luna> a load of trouble in soriana
16:19 < luna> be aware
16:19 < luna> ministerial forces are moving in from there, lorries and moterbikes
16:19 < luna> to our compas fightint the PFP
16:19 < luna> stand back 1 or 2 metres
16:20 < luna> we know of infiltrated within you
16:20 < luna> in 5 senyores
16:20 < luna> stand back 1 or 2 metres
16:20 < luna> to avoid confrontation
16:20 < luna> and safe guard the university
16:20 < luna> we have reports of a lot of ppl coming here
16:20 < luna> -
16:20 < luna> 0
16:20 < luna> 0
16:20 < luna> id like to know where my daughter is
16:21 < luna> i cant find her
16:21 < luna> she has my grandson
16:21 < luna> `might be pregant
16:21 < luna> call me where are you
16:21 < luna> call
16:21 < luna> `crying
16:21 < luna> more for the children 
16:21 < luna> maestro costa
16:21 < luna> if you are with her
16:21 < luna> noone is answering me
16:21 < luna> i need to know how my daighter is
16:22 < luna> we are going to find amanda y anyel pi?a martinez
16:22 < luna> she aslo has a child 
16:22 < luna> a 4 year old
16:22 < luna> we are going to talk to limmedh
16:22 < luna> and find her
16:22 < luna> `limmedh is a HHRR ngo
16:22 < luna> `mexican
16:23 < luna> so we are going to find her 
16:23 < luna> ppl come to the appo desk
16:23 < luna> and go to the national comission for HHRR
16:23 < luna> althought they are not doing much, really but we have to go thru the motions
16:23 < luna> we have a message from cuba
16:23 < luna> -
16:23 < luna> -
16:24 < luna> well they are asking me whay am making jokes from time to tome
16:24 < luna> we'll we will cry later
16:24 < luna> we need to release this tension
16:24 < luna> thru laughter
16:24 < luna> this allow us to keep our spirits up
16:24 < luna> here we continue
16:25 < luna> untill the moment they come and take us in our little chairs and thow us, chairs and all inside the hellicopter
16:25 < luna> in blenamiel santarosa, etc
16:26 < luna> ther is a call out to join the march that
16:26 < luna> will leave from santa rosa
16:26 < luna> attend
16:26 < luna> 4 arrest
16:26 < luna> the rabbit
16:26 < luna> with a hurt hand
16:26 < luna> -
16:26 < luna> -
16:26 < luna> PFP is in lise, 
16:26 < luna> already in the faculty in the east
16:26 < luna> throwing gass bombs already
16:26 < luna> trying to break in
16:27 < luna> the ise side
16:27 < luna> soriana
16:27 < luna> plaza del valle
16:27 < luna> we must stop this animals
16:27 < luna> reinforce that side
16:27 < luna> kee firm
16:27 < luna> but avoid direct confrontation
16:27 < luna> caml
16:27 < luna> sidciplne
16:27 < luna> -
16:27 < luna> -
16:27 < luna> compa talking--
16:27 < luna> hello
16:27 < luna> am 70 years old
16:28 < luna> a have been a peasant
16:28 < luna> and the gov is never gaven anything but alms
16:28 < luna> we are being abused cu we are so poor 
16:28 < luna> we cant buy weapons
16:28 < luna> but liste
16:28 < luna> listen
16:28 < luna> one day 
16:28 < luna> god our lord 
16:28 < luna> i swear one day
16:28 < luna> ---
16:29 < luna> ppl arrested have been taken to the airport
16:29 < luna> ---
16:29 < luna> there is footage that there where more that 15 arrests, not 4
16:29 < luna> we need that footage
16:29 < luna> -
16:29 < luna> there is confirmation of infiltratons
16:29 < luna> watch out
16:29 < luna> --
16:29 < luna> reinforce the uni
16:30 < luna> arrested are being taken to the airport
16:30 < luna> please try to dearrest them on their way
16:30 < luna> ---
16:30 < luna> back to 70 year old compa
16:30 < luna> --
16:30 < luna> NOONEE wants ULO
16:30 < luna> noone
16:30 < luna> everyone is agaist him
16:30 < luna> he is alone
16:30 < luna> everyone
16:30 < luna> why doesnt he goes
16:31 < luna> why so revolution and are opressing us the humble and the poor
16:31 < luna> and to the cop's bosses
16:31 < luna> what are you doing today you are something and tomoroow?
16:31 < luna> we are continue this truggle
16:31 < luna> stryggle
16:31 < luna> struggle
16:31 < luna> we are a peacefull struggle
16:32 < luna> for justice
16:32 < luna> they are robbing us
16:32 < luna> taking the meny to foreign countries
16:32 < luna> i am 70 yers old and have been working all my life
16:32 < ruche>  http://argentina.indymedia.org/  actualizamos
16:32 < luna> and never got a thanks
16:33 < luna> god will punish them
16:33 < luna> they are doing lo pior with the humble
16:33 < luna> "the worse"
16:33 < luna> ===
16:33 < luna> just to say 
16:33 < luna> that the south brigades
16:33 < luna> we cant hear you
16:34 < luna> your mouth is too near the phone
16:34 < luna> san cristobal de las casas
16:34 < luna> mobilisations
16:34 < luna> in cantoche 
16:34 < luna> movilisations with the campesinas
16:34 < luna> in campeches
16:34 < luna> the sit in in DF
16:34 < luna> it continues
16:34 < luna> in cancun
16:35 < luna> they are movilising there
16:35 < luna> the otehr campaign
16:35 < luna> other
16:35 < luna> in cancun
16:35 < luna> is the south in support with the popular assembly of the people of oaxaca
16:35 < luna> ---
16:35 < luna> 0
16:35 < luna> -0
16:36 < luna> they are attacking from the institute od education side
16:36 < luna> -
16:36 < luna> the are breaking in thru the education institude side 
16:36 < luna> we must reinforce
16:36 < luna> we call for everyone to come and reinforce the resistance here
16:36 < luna> gas is being thrown
16:37 < luna> soriana and elise barricades
16:37 < luna> reinforce that 
16:37 < luna> we need people in 5 senyores barricade
16:37 < luna> ppl
16:37 < luna> of la joya and montoya, of la experimental
16:37 < jazz> french summary if needed:
16:37 < jazz> Des gens sont arriv?s et arrivent en nombre des autres quartiers et de villes proches. Des m?dias sont ?galement pr?sents (ce qui peut pousser les policiers ? la retenue). Nouvel appel ? ne pas chercher la confrontation avec les forces du d?sordre lib?ral pour ne pas leur permettre d'utiliser la violence. La radio appelle les gens ? se munir de fleurs pour montrer leur non-violence. Des barricades sont ?rig?es sur les rou
16:37 < jazz> tes. 
16:37 < jazz> Les assaillants sont actuellement bloqu?s dans leur progression vers la radio. C'est bien la "police f?d?rale pr?ventive" (PFP) qui m?ne les op?rations, plusieurs centaines de policiers sont pr?sents. Certaines personnes ont ?t? durement battues avant d'?tre emmen?es par les forces de police, il y a des intrusions dans certaines habitations et des violences ? l'encontre des habitants. Certaines barricades ont ?t? enfon
16:37 < jazz> c?es. Il y a un face-?-face tendu entre les lignes de la PFP et la population. On signale des hommes arm?s derri?re l'universit? et dans divers endroits de la ville, ils utilisent leurs armes pour dissuader les gens d'aller soutenir l'universit?. 
16:37 < jazz> Le recteur de l'universit?, Felipe Martinez, a ?t? retransmis il y a 20 minutes sur la radio APPO: 
16:37 < luna> people form thse neighbourhioods there 
16:37 < jazz> - "Je m'adresse ? toutes les personnes d'Oaxaca et aux autorit?s qui essayent de violer les droites du peuple. Les lutter passent par des moments difficiles, et celui-ci en est un. L'universit? publique est un endroit de dialogues et d'expression des id?es. La radio ne peut pas ?tre r?duite au silence. Le probl?me ne vient pas de l'universit?. Le gouvernement doit ?tre prudent par rapport aux r?percussions de ses actes. Fo
16:37 < jazz> x (ndlr: le pr?sident mexicain) ne devrait pas intervenir, l'universit? d'Oaxaca ets pauvre et marginalis?e, et n'a pas besoin de ces nouveaux ?v?nements. Le seul besoin est le dialogue. L'universit? ne doit pas ?tre prise d'assaut 'it is to assault history' (??)" - 
16:37 < luna> please come out to support 
16:38  * luna jazz read the channels description
16:38 < luna> we have to encircle the university with a human chain
16:38 < luna> abd we have to try to dearrest out people
16:38 < luna> we are in the lise
16:38 < luna> people are defending themselves with stones
16:39 < luna> cuz we are chocking in the gass
16:39 < luna> there are arrests
16:39 < luna> `coughing
16:39 < jazz> Il y a au moins 4 arrestations confirm?es: "El Conejo", 28 ans, Marcelo 12 ans, et deux jeunes de 15-16 ans. 
16:39 < jazz> Une action de protestation a lieu devant l'ambassade du Mexique ? Los Angeles. 
16:39 < jazz> http://liege.indymedia.org/news/2006/10/12864_comment.php#12971
16:41 < luna> th-
16:41 < luna> 0
16:41 < luna> 0
16:41 < luna> brenamiel is blocked
16:41 < luna> police are not letting people thru to come and defend us
16:41 < luna> ppl
16:41 < luna> kee trying 
16:41 < luna> if they dont let you in
16:41 < luna> we are from oaxaca we know the streets
16:41 < luna> look for side streets
16:42 < luna> and come
16:42 < luna> -
16:42 < luna> -
16:42 < luna> we'd like to say to ppl go to education instute reinforce that
16:42 < luna> and also 5 senyores
16:42 < luna> and keep calm
16:42 < luna> dont respond to provocation
16:42 < luna> --
16:42 < bossa> jazz
16:42 < bossa> s-t-p
16:42 < luna> ppl we have to build a human chain
16:42 < bossa> tu peut m'envoyer le texte pour mail
16:42 < luna> around the university
16:43  * luna bosa i already sent mesages to him.
16:43 < bossa> pour mettre à jour indymedia suisse
16:43 < luna> the pgo
16:43 < luna> pfp there are many injured
16:43 < luna> they threw a granade
16:43 < luna> a young compa
16:43 < luna> is really badly hurt
16:43 < luna> we call the people of oaxaca
16:44 < luna> they are hitting us really haard
16:44 < luna> the teachers are defending themselves in trenches
16:44 < luna> a copter has landed here
16:44 < luna> hello
16:44 < luna> -attention
16:44 < luna> the copter has landed in 5 senyores--
16:44 < luna> 0
16:44 < luna> 0
16:44 < luna> 0
16:45 < luna> your servant from the social inverstigations come to the university radio to show 
16:45 < luna> our solidarity and support the 
16:45 < luna> declaration of the rector
16:45 < luna> and as university ppl 
16:45 < luna> we call the community to declare our condition of free speach and freedom movement
16:46 < luna> we have to stresss---
16:46 < luna> ---
16:46 < Sweeper> {I hope someone is recording the stream}
16:46 < luna> sorry but we have to interrupt
16:46 < luna> -
16:46 < luna> in lise
16:46 < luna> the pfp
16:46 < luna> we cant breath anymore
16:46 < luna> they are trying to break in
16:46 < luna> have they broken in yet?
16:46 < luna> no they are at the door
16:47 < luna> -
16:47 < luna> there are 2 assault vans 
16:47 < luna> making arrests
16:47 < luna> we call ppl to build barricades
16:47 < luna> in saladao river
16:47 < luna> cinco senyores
16:47 < luna> rosario
16:47 < luna> build barricades
16:47 < luna> the copter in 5 senyores has landed
16:47 < luna> lets resists
16:48 < luna> we are going to stop them with our barricades
16:48 < luna> we must stop the arresting our people
16:48 < luna> -
16:48 < luna> `back to this university professor giving a 
16:48 < luna> we have to remaint....
16:48 < luna> --
16:48 < luna> compas
16:49 < luna> in this moment the pfp have gone thru the barricade defending the university
16:49 < luna> they are few
16:49 < luna> everyone has to come and defend radio university
16:49 < luna> they ahve to see the poeple--
16:49 < luna> 0
16:49 < luna> in education institute
16:49 < luna> the pfp
16:49 < luna>  are hitting our people really hard
16:49 < luna> repression
16:50 < luna> they are not trying to dosperse us they
16:50  * mexicatl can continue now if luna wants a break
16:50 < luna> are hitting us terribly
16:50 < luna> it is impossible to remain nonviolet under this situation
16:50 < luna> we call everyone to come to support us
16:50 < luna> our peeople
16:50 < luna> out young people are not
16:50 < luna> are now dispersin the police
16:51 < luna> dispersing the police
16:51 < luna> --
16:51 < luna> ppl we are many more than them 
16:51 < luna> more that they-5000
16:51 < luna> people
16:51 < luna> we have to stay calm 
16:51 < luna> and we hae to make a human chain arround them
16:51 < luna> we are many more
16:51 < luna> deffentd appo
16:51 < luna> rector
16:51 < luna> --
16:51 < luna> --
16:51 < luna> rector--
16:51 < luna> -
16:52 < luna> we have to defend our autonomy
16:52 < luna> we have to do so peacefully
16:52 < luna> ths resistance is a political strategic tactic
16:52 < luna> it is really important that university teachers, all of us answer the call of our rector
16:52 < luna> to defend our autonomy
16:53 < luna> we must fall in the trap of responding to provocations-
16:53 < luna> -
16:53 < luna> we need old t-shirts to protect oursevs against gass
16:53 < luna> -
16:53 < luna> the pfp keeps trying to occupy our city, uni city
16:54 < luna> the last information from education institute
16:54 < luna> our ppl have made the pfp turn back
16:54 < luna> --
16:54 < luna> they are fleeing
16:54 < luna> they are going back
16:54 < luna> the cowards
16:54 < luna> after what they tried
16:54 < luna> thay are turning back
16:54 < luna> we ask the ppl of oaxaca
16:55 < luna> to come protect
16:55 < luna> but be carefull they might get ready to come back
16:55 < luna> but we've turned them back
16:55 < luna> --
16:55 < luna> we see how we are defending our uni against the occupaing forces
16:55 < luna> we are not going to let them do it
16:56 < luna> we are confronting them
16:56 < luna> not even a step back
16:56 < luna> --
16:56 < luna> back to rector's blah blah
16:56 < luna> ---
16:56 < luna> rector:
16:56 < luna> so 
16:56 < luna> our dorector has made a call
16:56 < luna> to fox, the republic's president and to other authorities
16:57 < luna> to ... respect our university
16:57 < luna> an intervention of th epolice would add and aditional element 
16:57 < luna> that wouldn t help the situation
16:57 < luna> --
16:57 < luna> at this moment we ask ppl n oaxaca
16:58 < luna> to not just sound bell churches but also cars
16:58 < luna> --
16:58 < luna> -
16:58 < luna> -
16:58 < luna> we have injured
16:58 < luna> the pfp hit them
16:58 < luna> we also want to say to our doctors to be ready
16:58 < luna> cuz the red cross vans are there on the side of the police and not for our people
16:58 < luna> keep alert
16:58 < luna> in santo domingo 
16:59 < luna> to our compas who are now on santo domingo 
16:59 < luna> the cops might be going there
16:59 < luna> we are not going to let us do this anymore
16:59 < luna> we have many hurt but ppl are not letting themselves be abused we hit back
16:59 < luna> --
16:59 < luna> --
16:59 < luna> people please
16:59 < luna> lets stay calm
17:00 < luna> we must stay peaceful
17:00 < luna> we must avoid the greeat institutional violence
17:00 < luna> --
17:00 < luna> --
17:00 < luna> sorry
17:00 < luna> erm
17:00 < luna> i have to interrupt you, but this is blah blah
17:00 < luna> we are not going to let them come in the university
17:00 < luna> we must stop them
17:01 < luna> ==
17:01 < luna> `fucking right
17:01 < luna> --
17:01 < luna> please there are injured and bring them here
17:01 < luna> bring our injured here
17:01 < luna> and please stay cam
17:01 < luna> we are full of hatred and impotence in the face of their 
17:02 < luna> repression but we must remain calm
17:02 < luna> --
17:02 < luna> back to the teacher reading the rector statement, clah
17:02 < luna> blah-
17:02 < luna> 0
17:02 < luna> -
17:03 < luna> this is not the first time that teachers, workers, students of the university
17:03 < luna> come to build a human, peacefull human ring
17:03 < luna> around the university
17:03 < luna> -
17:03 < luna> -
17:03 < luna> we have a cal from lise--
17:03 < luna> cmon cmon
17:03 < luna> we have a problem 
17:04 < luna> in soriana we have state police
17:04 < luna> using a christian church as a base
17:04 < luna> and keep calm we are protecting our radio
17:04 < luna> but we dont want anymore deaths
17:04 < luna> [
17:04 < luna> =there
17:04 < luna> are
17:04 < guerrer> hola
17:04 < luna> 6 tanks in campo del amor
17:05 < luna> and 6 pfp vans going towards simpolos patrios
17:05 < luna> =
17:05 < luna> =
17:05 < luna> call in come in mr tacher
17:05 < luna> we call everyone the pfp is moving towars canvilla
17:05 < luna> and also to the medicas we need you
17:05 < luna> copters are arriving
17:05 < luna> the police fled
17:06 < luna> we call evryone to come and support
17:06 < luna> a compa
17:06 < luna> we have a report that they are sending water tanks to repress us
17:06 < luna> already
17:06 < luna> in 10 there are some students taht turned the cops back 
17:06 < luna> and they are hidding in burger king
17:07 < luna> we can hear the copters
17:07 < luna> `and some bang-shots in the background
17:07 < luna> we need help and support here
17:07 < luna> we have PRI paramilitaries and the army
17:07 < guerrer> 10:55 Reposts on the University Radio of Oaxaca- peole are calling in with report of police shooting tear-gas. A helicopter has landed at the Five Señores and at the admin building of the University of Oaxaca 
17:07 < luna> we need your suppor
17:07 < luna> we must respond
17:08 < luna> the copter is FLYING OVER THE UNIVERSITY CAMPUS
17:08 < luna> WE NEED TO COME AND HELP
17:08 < luna> WE CALL EVERYONE TO KEEP ORGANISED
17:08 < luna> EVEN IF ..
17:08 < luna>  a copter has landed in 5 senyores
17:08 < luna> to everyone
17:08 < luna> for your own dignity
17:09 < luna> to ALL STUDENTS
17:09 < luna> COME AND DEFEND US
17:09 < luna> 3 COPTERS ARE THROWING GASS DOWN IN CIUDAD UNICERSIDAD
17:09 < lupa_uruguay> 3 helicopters are over university
17:09 < luna> 2 OF THEM HAVE LANDED ALREADY
17:09 < luna> WE CALL EVERYONE TO COME DEFEND US FROM THESE WORMS
17:10 < luna> ````COUGHNG
17:10 < luna> `rector
17:10 < luna> `blah blah
17:10 < lupa_uruguay> (they are with breath problems)
17:10 < luna> LOOK THIS IS NOT THE MOMENT TO CALL FOR PEACEFULL SPEECHES
17:10 < luna> WHAT IS GOING ON?
17:10 < luna> THEY ARE BREAKING IN
17:11 < luna> COMPAS LETS BUILD BARRICADES
17:11 < luna> LETS LET THEM KNOW WE ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THEM TOTAKE ONE MORE OF US
17:11 < luna> WHERE ARE THE STUDENTS? WHERE ARE THE WORKERS? THE WHOLE COMUNITY
17:11 < luna> WHERE ARE YOU
17:11 < luna> WE MUST COME HERE
17:11 < luna> MOTHERS OF STUDENT OFFICE WORKERS EVERYONE WE WANT TO SEE U HERE
17:12 < luna> defending us our voice
17:12 < luna> we want to see cathedratics, students defending us 
17:12 < luna> but also defend everyone
17:12 < luna> `````s`hot
17:12 < luna> shots
17:12 < guerrer> 10:57 Two track loads of assailants are roving around the city streets detaining and taking people coming to help the University Radio. Tear-gas is still being shot at the entrance of the University of Oaxaca
17:12 < luna> IN THIS VERY MOMENT 
17:12 < luna> THEY ARE BOMBING THIS VERY BIDING
17:12 < luna> THE RADIO STUDIP
17:13 < luna> STUDIO
17:13 < luna> WE HAVE INJURED
17:13 < luna> THEY ALREADY BROKE INTO THE SPORTS CEntre
17:13 < luna> this is raping the university's autonomy
17:13 < luna> we call ppl
17:13 < luna> to come
17:13 < luna> tanks are already breaking in
17:13 < luna> PEOPLE leave your house
17:13 < luna> HELP
17:14 < luna> SOS
17:14 < luna> come defend your students
17:14 < luna> HOW CAN WE CALL FOR NON VIOLENCE WHEN WE HAVE THE DOING THIS?
17:14 < luna> COPTERS
17:14 < lupa> take photoa and rec with cameras!
17:14 < luna> RAPING OUR RIGHTS
17:14 < luna> THIS IS THE MOMENT WE DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO
17:14 < luna> WHAEVER WE HAVE TO DO
17:15 < luna> WE ARE NOT GOING TO REMAIN WITH OUR ARMS CROSSED
17:15 < luna> LETs come ut
17:15 < luna> out
17:15 < luna> bring fireworks and whatver we have to bring to stop them
17:15 < luna> this installations are going to be defended till the end
17:15 < luna> they are going to have to kill us
17:16 < luna> we are not going to give them the voice of the people
17:16 < luna> which whatever we have
17:16 < luna> to the end
17:16 < luna> we have no weapons
17:16 < luna> we have our hand s
17:16 < luna> and we have stones and we are standing 
17:16 < luna> out head high
17:16 < luna> our fucking jeart alight
17:16 < luna> heart
17:16 < luna> `and us?
17:17 < luna> `what de fuck are we doing ppl?
17:17  * luna helooooooooooo
17:17  * luna Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 11:28:10 AM CST
17:17 < lupa> (what??)
17:18  * luna call embassies, call email fax hack phone whaever, mexican embassies websites, whatever
17:18  * henning__ is updating an german ticker
17:18  * luna MOBILISE
17:18 < luna> we are going to defend ourselves
17:18 < luna> to all the poepl that are ehlping them
17:18 < luna> it hurts to see
17:19 < gdm> PLEASE ONLY SPEAK IF YOU ARE TRANSLATING FROM THE RADIO STREAM INTO ENGLISH. THIS CHANNEL IS BEING LOGGED AT http://www.iteration.org/radioappo.txt
17:19 < luna> this is our home
17:19 < luna> this is the home of the people
17:19 < luna> anyone would defend their home from thieves
17:19 < luna> assassins 
17:19 < luna> thieves
17:19 < luna> we are defending the home of the people
17:19 < luna> so to tghe people come and help out
17:19 < luna> sound you car horns
17:20 < luna> the church bells
17:20 < luna> WE CAN HEAR SCREAMS
17:20 < luna> HEAR THE screams
17:20 < luna> a copter
17:20 < luna> take pictures
17:20 < luna> compas
17:20 < luna> the video cameras
17:20 < luna> record everything
17:20 < luna> we have to record this 
17:20 < luna> gather all the evidence to show the world
17:20 < luna> IN THIS MOMENT 
17:21 < luna> THE HELLICOMPTER IS LANDING INSIDE THE UNIVERSITY
17:21 < luna> we cant allow this the autonomy
17:21 < luna> URGENt
17:21 < luna> WE NEED FIREWORKD
17:21 < luna> FIREWORKS HERE
17:21 < luna> WE ARE GOING TO DEFEND OUR HOME
17:21 < luna> it is not possible that the neoliberals are going to rape us 
17:22 < luna> those fascist
17:22 < luna> EL YUNQUE
17:22 < luna> take away our rights
17:22 < luna> HASTA LA VITORIA SIEMPRE
17:22 < luna> WE ARE HERE
17:22 < luna> AND HERE WE STAY
17:22 < luna> there are two copters that where throwing bombs over us gass
17:23 < luna> they ahv e now labded
17:23 < luna> landed
17:23 < luna> and are now getting ready to destry us
17:23 < luna> they are bombing our university
17:23 < luna> they invaded our grounds
17:23 < luna> and the air
17:23 < luna> one of our compas was hit in her head
17:23 < luna> they are using violence
17:23 < luna> -
17:23 < luna> 0
17:24 < luna> we want to see those schools and institutions academic institutions
17:24 < luna> we want to see them here NOW 
17:24 < luna> it is very well to do comuniques in the papers 
17:24 < luna> but we have to show our bodies
17:24 < luna> i want to see everyone here
17:25 < luna> her
17:25 < luna> here
17:25 < luna> they are thwoing gass
17:25 < luna> throwing gass
17:25 < luna> -
17:25 < luna> 0
17:25 < luna> caller
17:25 < luna> -
17:25 < luna> PFP is gooing your what 
17:25 < luna> way
17:25 < luna> from technologico
17:25 < luna> urgent call out
17:25 < luna> they are moving towards you
17:25 < luna> many forces
17:26 < luna> everyone
17:26 < luna> about the canal9 barricade
17:26 < luna> 20 vans are moving rapidly towards university radio
17:26 < luna> also
17:26 < luna> the teacher lopex has been arested
17:26 < luna> and we have filmed it
17:26 < luna> so they cant now "dissapear him
17:27 < luna> everyone record
17:27 < luna> a copter
17:27 < luna> AN ARMY copter has already landed in the university
17:27 < luna> to everyone
17:27 < luna> -
17:27 < luna> -
17:27 < luna> phone in-
17:27 < luna> we wabt to tell you
17:27 < luna> that from the catholic church
17:28 < luna> in this moment the pfp are moving back
17:28 < luna> and we'd like to call people to move into university city
17:28 < luna> --
17:28 < luna> we lost the call
17:28 < luna> --
17:28 < luna> about rectoria
17:28 < luna> they already come there
17:28 < luna> but they ddnt see if the copter landed
17:29 < luna> ==
17:29 < luna> we are going to resist
17:29 < luna> what is going one?
17:29 < luna> we need people to bring
17:29 < luna> heavy machinery here to the studia
17:29 < luna> study
17:29 < mexicatl> the chopper didn't land, they just thought it did because it went out of view
17:29 < luna> WE ARE GOING TO DEFEND OURSELVES
17:29 < luna> BRING FIREWORKS
17:29 < luna> BRING PETROL
17:30 < luna> HEAVY MACHINE
17:30 < luna> lets see them put a foot inside radio university
17:30 < luna> lets defend our home
17:30 < luna> but lets keep a distance
17:30 < luna> they are provoking us
17:30 < luna> the copters landed 
17:31 < luna> but thanks to the fact that the people came supported
17:31 < luna> -
17:31 < luna> -
17:31 < luna> 25 vans coming from 5 senyores
17:31 < luna> LETS FILL THE STREETS 
17:31 < luna> WITH PLANKS WITH NAILS AND STOP THEM
17:31 < luna> one of us has been arrested
17:31 < luna> in 5 senyores
17:32 < luna> in the roundabout there
17:32 < luna> a copter has landed
17:32 < luna> --
17:32 < luna> we need to make a human circle around them
17:32 < luna> we are more than them 
17:33 < luna> 0
17:33 < luna> 0
17:33 < luna> we have reports 3000 police are coming
17:33 < luna> we are more than them
17:33 < luna> we know the ground here
17:33 < luna> bring petrol fireworks
17:34 < luna> water pipes
17:34 < luna> our university hs been raped 
17:34 < luna> the building of that represents the education of the people
17:34 < luna> they have raped us already 
17:34 < luna> as they have come into our air
17:34  * mexicatl will take over now
17:35 < luna> and are attcking us with pepper spray
17:35 < mexicatl> they have already violated the autonomy of the unviersity
17:35  * luna mex VAMOS
17:35 < mexicatl> to all those that thought the police would come peacefully, this is your answer
17:35 < mexicatl> the people of oaxaca will resits, a new country will be built
17:35 < mexicatl> these are the foundations, the commune of oaxaca
17:36  * luna mex:ill be here, right back we WILL DEFEND OUR RADIO
17:36 < mexicatl> the peaceful insurrection of the people are showing their resitance
17:36 < mexicatl> we felt the gases of the traitors that are the federal police
17:36 < mexicatl> my colleague will talk now
17:36 < mexicatl> --
17:37 < mexicatl> the police tried, but they fell back when we replied with stones and molotovs
17:37 < mexicatl> then they came back with tanks and sent in the choppers
17:37 < mexicatl> because we were united, they had to attack us from the air
17:37 < mexicatl> --
17:38 < mexicatl> more trucks are coming to attack the university
17:38 < mexicatl> there are already parts of the university that are off limits
17:38 < mexicatl> surround the invaders, make human chains
17:38 < mexicatl> we are the people of oaxaca, not some worms of pri-supporters
17:39 < mexicatl> we will stand up to the invaders that have come to massacre the people of oaxaca
17:39 < mexicatl> with the pfp comes letizia toro ?? whom we denounce, that we hate her
17:39 < mexicatl> and that we do not want here there
17:39 < mexicatl> --
17:40 < mexicatl> call from mexico city
17:40 < mexicatl> surrounded in oaxaca
17:40 < mexicatl> ---
17:40 < mexicatl> right now the APPO in mexico city has closed off lazaro cardenas and is ready for anything
17:41 < mexicatl> i want to say that we are not alone, the people of oaxaca
17:41 < mexicatl> we shall not take one step back, we shall stand up to the governor, president and PRI
17:41 < mexicatl> we have closed off lazaro cardenas for an undefined time
17:42 < mexicatl> ---
17:42 < mexicatl> all of mexico is oaxaca
17:42 < mexicatl> there are tear gas attacks on the people at cinco señores
17:42 < mexicatl> the PFP is falling back
17:43 < mexicatl> many people are here supporting us
17:43 < mexicatl> the PFP is falling back
17:43 < mexicatl> --
17:43 < mexicatl> we ask the people to throw gas on top of the tanks
17:43 < mexicatl> to drown the police in gas
17:44 < mexicatl> we have the blood of juarez and the hermanos magon
17:44 < mexicatl> we must start our offensive
17:44 < mexicatl> --
17:44 < mexicatl> do not take risks, be careful
17:44 < mexicatl> we are the people, we are more and we can win
17:45 < mexicatl> peacefully it isn't possible anymore
17:45 < mexicatl> right now we need to be calm
17:45 < mexicatl> --
17:45  * luna call to dowse police vans and officers in petrol
17:45 < mexicatl> throw black paint on the tanks, and gasoline from the rooftops
17:46  * luna not in molotovs - the spirit of ricardo flores magon
17:46 < mexicatl> people of oaxaca, you are ingenous, stop the armored tanks
17:46 < mexicatl> former governor of oaxaca
17:46 < mexicatl> ---
17:46 < mexicatl> he takes the side of the director of the university
17:47 < mexicatl> in attacking the assault on the campus
17:47 < mexicatl> --
17:47 < mexicatl> the door is about to be fall on the campus
17:47 < mexicatl> --
17:47 < mexicatl> he asks the president and the governor to stop the assault on the university
17:48 < mexicatl> my stance is definitive as a oaxacan
17:48 < mexicatl> and to prohibit the entry to all forces into the university campus and not to invade the university
17:48 < mexicatl> as an ex-governor of oaxaca and oaxacan
17:49 < mexicatl> --
17:49 < bossa> no!
17:50 < mexicatl> ask for supplies for the first aid tents
17:50 < mexicatl> the ex-governor was asked to intercede as a representative in mexico
17:50 < mexicatl> the PFP is forcing down the doors on the students
17:51 < mexicatl> the autonomy of the university has been violated from the moment the first tear gas canister hits the ground of the university
17:51 < mexicatl> call for the president to stop this massacre
17:51 < mexicatl> --
17:52 < mexicatl> we make the president responsible, the congress, for the massacre that will occur
17:52 < mexicatl> because we will defend our home, we will not give it up
17:52 < mexicatl> we ask for heavy machineries, fireworks, gasoline, diesel
17:52 < mexicatl> we are defending our commune of oaxaca with dignity
17:53 < mexicatl> the people of oaxaca are showing that we will not be quiet because of the violence of the PFP
17:53  * luna mexicatl, lets do it together
17:53 < mexicatl> we will defend our commune
17:53  * mexicatl sure
17:53  * luna Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 12:04:44 PM CST
17:53 < mexicatl> we will defend the university
17:54 < luna> they keep thowing gas bombs
17:54 < luna> they keep overflying our campus
17:54 < luna> they keep intimitating us
17:54 < mexicatl> the choppers continue to rain tear gas on the university
17:54 < luna> we say to calderon
17:55 < luna> if ulises ruiz doesnt leave you will never take the presidency
17:55 < luna> there are people with weapons
17:55 < luna> near the university
17:55 < luna> they intend to give us weapons
17:55 < luna> to seed weapons with us
17:55 < mexicatl> distributing them, we will not accept the arms, not one shot has been fired by us
17:55 < luna> but we are going to keep resisting with what we hae
17:55 < luna> have
17:56 < luna> the police water tanks 
17:56 < luna> have run out of water
17:56 < mexicatl> the water cannons have no more water, we need more heavy machinery to force the police to fall back
17:56 < luna> so we call people to watch out for lorrys that might be bringing water to replentish them
17:56 < luna> lets stop them
17:56 < mexicatl> we need water tanks to reply with the same strategies
17:56 < luna> dont let them replentish their water tanks
17:56 < mexicatl> used pressurized water on them
17:57 < luna> convivendia cristiana building in oaxaca
17:57 < mexicatl> a catholic office serves as HQ for the PFP
17:57 < luna> is being used as a base
17:57 < luna> perhaps the priest is informed of this
17:57 < luna> perhaps the religious sects are involved in this
17:58 < luna> we cal HHRR groups to monitor this situation
17:58 < luna> -
17:58 < mexicatl> perhaps without their knowledge, or perhaps with their suport like with the bells, the religious involvement goes high
17:58 < luna> we pepresent cep
17:58 < luna> --
17:58 < luna> phone in
17:58 < luna> --
17:58 < luna> we say that the church that is acting as mediators
17:58 < luna> are talking to the police
17:58 < luna> are callin the pfp to disperse
17:59 < luna> `line is awful now
17:59 < luna> the pfp has agreed to stand back
17:59 < luna> to retrieve?
17:59 < mexicatl> there is an agreement for the PFP to withdraw from Cinco Señores
18:00 < luna> and from other places, from university
18:00 < mexicatl> --
18:00 < mexicatl> but until we see it we won't believe it
18:00 < luna> we will believe it when 
18:00  * luna he
18:00  * luna fuckers
18:00 < mexicatl> we are still breathing in the tear gas
18:00 < luna> gass bombs have fallen
18:00 < luna> over the church in 5 senyores
18:00 < luna> alsoo inside the university
18:00 < mexicatl> the church informs them
18:01 < luna> we are seing that theyare also throwing us
18:01 < mexicatl> there are also throwing some sort of red gases
18:01 < luna> a red gas
18:01 < luna> our compas have red dust in their faces
18:01  * luna might be to identify them
18:01 < mexicatl> the students are fighting the water cannons
18:01 < luna> they are raping our autonomy
18:01 < mexicatl> shooting water into the houses
18:01 < mexicatl> surrounding the university
18:01 < luna> even the copter are throwing gas
18:02 < mexicatl> with vinegar in hand, we must be ready
18:02 < luna> the police are not discriminating
18:02 < luna> there are children and elderly in the houses where they are throwing gas
18:02 < luna> the red paint 
18:02 < mexicatl> the tear gas that is making us open our eyes to the president we have
18:02 < luna> powder in our faces
18:03 < luna> to build a different oaxaca
18:03 < mexicatl> we will use to to create something, we are being awaken by this
18:03 < mexicatl> to the crude reality of this situation
18:03 < mexicatl> the water tanks must be stopped so that they can't replenish the cannons
18:04 < mexicatl> the people must use their cars and pans to make noise
18:05 < mexicatl> in the name of god, the have bombed the church where people were looking for asylum
18:05 < mexicatl> we must see what the priest says, who will blame us for it
18:06 < mexicatl> perhaps the supposed agreement of withdrawal is to distract us and permit infiltrators
18:06 < mexicatl> --
18:06  * luna mario from sabotage radio has been hurt, a broken arm and a bleeding head
18:06 < mexicatl> we ask for divine intervention
18:06  * mexicatl chingao
18:06  * luna de radio sabotaje
18:07 < mexicatl> you god who is just, protect us and punish them
18:07  * luna line is deteriorating, we are trying to retune
18:08 < luna> they have taken down the appo website
18:08 < mexicatl> our website has been taken
18:08 < mexicatl> the UNAM website has information, and spread the information
18:08 < luna> but people can listen to kehuelga and UNAM, DF webpage 
18:08 < luna> they have a link with the UN
18:09 < luna> they are coming here to the studio
18:09 < luna> we need to make the police stand back 
18:09 < luna> step by step
18:10  * mexicatl can barely make out anything
18:10 < gdm> [helicoptors]
18:11 < luna> phone in
18:11 < luna> --
18:12  * luna it is impossible to understand, the line has deteriorated, and phone ins are impossible to understand. studio audio barely audible
18:12 < mexicatl> brb
18:15 < luna> they keep throwing gas in 5 se?ores
18:15 < mexicatl> the sister station of the UNAM is rebroadcasting/listening to the voice of oaxaca
18:15  * mexicatl warns that some mistake might creep in, it is very hard to make out
18:16 < luna> prisoners are being taken to the airport
18:16 < luna> call for people to raise barricades
18:16 < luna> evrywhere
18:16 < luna> and stop the vans with the prisoners
18:16 < luna> have reports that afi
18:17 < luna> is beating up the compas arrested
18:21 < mexicatl> !  could it be government interference with the radio?
18:22 < gdm> sounds like it might be.. there are all kinds of wierd sounds there
18:23 < mexicatl> yeah, i've tried going over it with an equilizer, but nothing
18:23 < skep> http://streaming.com.mx:8006/
18:23 < killerina> http://streaming.com.mx:8006/ 
18:23 < killerina> try here
18:24 < mexicatl> yeah, much better
18:24 < mexicatl> :)
18:24 < mexicatl> ---
18:25 < luna> Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 12:35:55 PM CST
18:25  * luna Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 12:35:55 PM CST
18:25 < luna> we continue
18:25 < luna> to report the moves of the police
18:25 < mexicatl> there's three reports:
18:25 < luna> against our heroic strggle of our comune
18:26 < luna> the cops are making HQ in a church
18:26 < mexicatl> near the university, in a church, the PFP is staying there
18:26 < mexicatl> phone number for calls
18:26 < mexicatl> call from APPO security representative
18:26  * luna we have to send them an sms sometime
18:26 < luna> PFP have orders to fuck off out of the university
18:26 < mexicatl> the order has been given to the PFP to withdraw from the proximity of the university
18:27 < mexicatl> if in three minutes the PFP hasn't withdrawn, they shall continue with their resistance
18:27 < luna> if in 3 minutes they dont leave we will let them know how 
18:27 < luna> we know how to struggle
18:27 < mexicatl> the mobilization has worked, and the federal government has matured
18:27  * luna like cheese
18:27  * luna they stink
18:28 < mexicatl> ---
18:28 < luna> on the one hand they are told to retrieve
18:28 < luna> on the other they are arresting our compas
18:28 < luna> -
18:28 < luna> i have been prevented from reaching the campus
18:28 < luna> i tried to go there, a phone call is not enough
18:28 < luna> but i tried
18:29 < luna> i still hope to be able to reach you
18:29 < luna> it is not just the cops
18:29 < luna> it is also the PRIistas
18:29 < luna> they want to shut our voices
18:29 < luna> no more victims
18:29 < luna> no more raping our people, our city
18:29 < luna> i am hoping to get around the police seige
18:29 < luna> and join you
18:29 < luna> we must resist
18:30 < luna> you are the voice of the people
18:30  * luna that was a university teacher
18:30 < mexicatl> --
18:30 < luna> director of education institute
18:30 < luna> oops==
18:31 < mexicatl> don't trust the police, but we shall trust them just a little
18:31 < mexicatl> --
18:31 < luna> we dont know if the red stuff was chile habanero of pokil
18:31 < luna> --
18:31 < luna> calling compas in 144
18:31 < luna> we invite everyone to unite
18:31 < mexicatl> to unite with the cause
18:31 < luna> miguatlan and 144
18:32 < mexicatl> we will not permit the radio to be taken
18:32 < luna> join this struggle come down join the defense of this university
18:32 < luna> and this is a call out to not just teachers from 144, but also to all the people
18:32 < mexicatl> --
18:32 < luna> there is a party here and at least we have the chilli already
18:32 < luna> --
18:33 < luna> we have a compa
18:33 < mexicatl> the have forced the PFP to withdraw near to cinco señores
18:33 < mexicatl> --
18:33 < luna> that was in the 5 senyores barricades
18:33 < luna> and is here
18:33 < luna> ==
18:33 < mexicatl> we founded the cinco señores, and we resisted
18:33 < luna> we had the rpiviledge to fight in the barricades in 5 senyores
18:33 < luna> and thanks to the teacher for this example
18:33 < mexicatl> thank you to the teachers for making this people proud and resisting
18:33 < mexicatl> thank you for helping with the struggle
18:34 < luna> and thanksfor being able of taking part this battle
18:34 < mexicatl> to those listening from home, come and participate so that we may not be stepped on
18:34 < luna> this little bit of history of struggle for dignity
18:34 < mexicatl> to take part in this little bit of history
18:34 < luna> abascal everyone was repressed
18:34 < luna> even the church was attaqued
18:34 < mexicatl> in the name of god, mr. abazcal, we were repressed, and even the church wasn't even spared
18:35 < luna> they where throwing water with chilli
18:35 < luna> in places where children and eldry people where
18:35 < luna> -
18:35 < luna> report from the barricades
18:35 < mexicatl> the people needs help, and even those inside their homes where assaulted
18:35 < luna> in ferrocarril
18:36 < luna> a pfp coming in
18:36  * mexicatl hopes someone is making summaries of this
18:36 < mexicatl> asking for coca-cola and vinegar for the eyes
18:36  * luna i think it is beyyer if one of us does it
18:37  * luna and the other just makes sure that if something is missing, it is recorded with /me command
18:37  * luna what do you think mexi?
18:38  * mexicatl that's fine, i'll do the translation, you watch for anything i miss ok?
18:38 < luna> ok
18:38  * luna ok
18:39 < mexicatl> a call from radio planton, thanking for their valor
18:39  * luna particularly will look out stuff like places and names, places, arrested, etc
18:39 < mexicatl> --
18:39  * mexicatl thinks it's good
18:40 < mexicatl> we denounce the intervention of the PFP
18:40 < mexicatl> that the name of our university can't be stepped on
18:40 < mexicatl> --
18:40 < mexicatl> denouncing the assault of the PFP
18:40 < mexicatl> behind the university
18:41 < mexicatl> the police is coming into the radio university
18:41 < mexicatl> we call to look for the infiltrators
18:42 < mexicatl> the PRI-sympathizers followers of this woman are near the back of the university
18:42  * luna rio salado soriana - police re grouping
18:42 < mexicatl> there is no withdrawal from the forces
18:42 < mexicatl> support through the phone is not enough, people are invited into the campus
18:42 < mexicatl> the chains of the ISTE are broken
18:43 < mexicatl> the ministerial police has come in
18:43 < mexicatl> the people from the barricades of Cinco Señores will resist
18:43  * luna police fotographs shooting an r15
18:43 < mexicatl> and have a pictures of shooting by a member of the PFP
18:44 < mexicatl> those at their homes have two choices
18:44 < mexicatl> to be an eyewitness or stay there
18:44 < mexicatl> classes can't start in the this situation, we start to hearing noises
18:45 < mexicatl> the porros of the letizia todo and the ministerial police have come into the campus
18:45 < mexicatl> the withdrawal was only to regroup and recharge their water cannons
18:46 < mexicatl> stop the water tanks, blow the tires so the PFP has more problems
18:46 < luna> we are not giving up this radio
18:46 < mexicatl> have cameras, and phones
18:46 < luna> be carefull compas
18:46 < mexicatl> this documentation is important
18:47 < mexicatl> we need cooked food, we have nothing more
18:47 < mexicatl> --
18:47 < mexicatl> mihuatlan call
18:48 < mexicatl> she accuses them of violating the radio of violating their rights
18:48 < mexicatl> --
18:48 < mexicatl> interrupted
18:48 < mexicatl> --
18:48  * luna ministerial police is breaking into university NOW
18:48 < mexicatl> giving address to listen to radio
18:48 < mexicatl> and other websites
18:49 < mexicatl> in the face of the supposed withdrawal
18:49 < mexicatl> the people of oaxaca continues to resist with dignity
18:49 < mexicatl> --
18:49 < mexicatl> there is no withdrawal, the water cannons are being recharged *somewhere*
18:49 < luna> police are refillling tanks in biguera
18:50 < mexicatl> the people of oaxaca must resist peacefully
18:50 < mexicatl> people must keep watch from the mountain
18:50 < mexicatl> and inform us so that we are not surprised
18:50 < mexicatl> the PFP is still present near the university
18:50 < mexicatl> under the name of the president fox
18:51 < mexicatl> to all to come out from their homes and defend the commune and their rights
18:52 < mexicatl> the ministerial police is near the accounting faculty
18:52 < mexicatl> --
18:52 < mexicatl> near cinco señores
18:52 < mexicatl> the PFP is still throwing tear gas canisters and pepper spray
18:52 < mexicatl> even into homes
18:52 < mexicatl> pleading to stop because there are children
18:53 < mexicatl> now not only to students but also homes, to children and women in their homes
18:53 < mexicatl> call to come and support the APPO barricades
18:53 < mexicatl> ---
18:53 < mexicatl> a profesor of the law school was detained
18:53 < mexicatl> he is in a black van, asks for it to be stopped
18:54 < mexicatl> --
18:54 < mexicatl> we ask for bottles
18:54 < mexicatl> ...... loss of signal .... back
18:54 < mexicatl> ---
18:54 < mexicatl> i was witness to the assault of the PFP
18:55 < mexicatl> and how the people tried to protect their voice and stood up to their violence
18:55 < mexicatl> call for people to come and protect your home, if they sorround us, then to surround them
18:55 < mexicatl> internationally and nationally we must support
18:56 < mexicatl> the people no longer asks, we demand
18:56 < mexicatl> the people no longer tolerates this desctruction driven by the PRI and ruiz
18:56 < mexicatl> what do you want? the blood of our teachers?
18:57 < mexicatl> no, we need you, we are here to resist those that say they're coming here peacefully
18:57 < mexicatl> we will resist with our heads up high
18:57 < mexicatl> ---
18:57 < mexicatl> call from a university official
18:57 < mexicatl> to come and protect the autonomy of the university
18:57 < mexicatl> we call the people of oaxaca to come and protect the campus
18:58 < mexicatl> listen to the call of radio universidad
18:58 < mexicatl> organize and come
18:58 < mexicatl> fill the streets and advance in the university
18:58 < mexicatl> avoid detentions
18:58 < mexicatl> we much organize from our doors
18:58 < mexicatl> and avoid problems when near the university
18:59 < mexicatl> ---
18:59 < mexicatl> report from university of the cinco señores
18:59 < mexicatl> the students are there and need more help, the people doesn't want any more PFP or ruiz
18:59 < mexicatl> who is causing so much problems
19:00 < mexicatl> they are ringing the church bells
19:00 < mexicatl> we must denounce this, ruiz's days are numbered, he must leave the state
19:00 < mexicatl> ---
19:00 < mexicatl> link with APPO, spokesperson
19:01 < mexicatl> supporting the actions
19:01 < mexicatl> lost...
19:01 < mexicatl> ---
19:01 < mexicatl> we must show ruiz that we're not ready to tolerate this anymore
19:01 < mexicatl> ---
19:02 < mexicatl> we will resist
19:02 < mexicatl> we this metal, we shall not be beaten
19:02  * luna people these are the streams to join, nice secure, stable streams http://radio.indymedia.org:8000/planton.mp3.m3u and http://radio.indymedia.org:8000/appo.mp3.m3u
19:02 < mexicatl> call for media to show they have powerful weapons
19:02 < mexicatl> we will resist
19:03 < mexicatl> they have a cartridge from the mexican army
19:03 < luna> 707 caliber 7.62 mm
19:03 < mexicatl> only used by the army and the PFP
19:03 < luna> they dropped this
19:03 < mexicatl> calls for the media national and international so they know we didn't have weapons
19:04 < mexicatl> --
19:04 < mexicatl> on the agreement might be a strategy to disperse and then regroup on the university
19:05 < mexicatl> the PFP might be acting without any real intention of withdrawal
19:05 < mexicatl> the people of oaxaca must head to the university
19:05 < mexicatl> we shall not tolerate the invaders
19:06 < mexicatl> if the forces are indeed withdrawing, we must still concentrate on the university
19:06 < mexicatl> communications with italy, also resisting in front of the embassy
19:06 < mexicatl> we must organitze this
19:06 < mexicatl> --
19:06 < mexicatl> we must not leave, and we should stay in the university
19:07 < mexicatl> we must reorganize in the university
19:07 < mexicatl> --
19:07 < mexicatl> shoots fired in the university
19:07 < mexicatl> by paramilitaries and police
19:07 < mexicatl> near the law school
19:07 < mexicatl> with high caliber weapons
19:08 < mexicatl> the PFP is covering the ministerial police
19:08 < mexicatl> three vans with two detained on it's way to the airport
19:08 < mexicatl> we need empty bottles and cocacola
19:08 < mexicatl> at the university
19:09 < mexicatl> also fireworks, gasoline, diesel
19:09 < mexicatl> and for the water tanks to be stopped
19:09 < mexicatl> ---
19:09 < mexicatl> call from california
19:09 < mexicatl> to the warrior people of oaxaca
19:09 < mexicatl> we are witness to the repression that is going on
19:10 < mexicatl> we have denounced it nationally and internationally
19:10 < mexicatl> to the UN and other organizations in geneva and elsewhere
19:10 < mexicatl> in spite of the distance, we are supporting you
19:10 < mexicatl> all across the country in consulates, sit ins are being placed
19:11 < mexicatl> denouncing the inhuman ruiz
19:11 < mexicatl> we are with you and until victory!
19:11 < mexicatl> --
19:11 < mexicatl> these are moments of crisis
19:11 < mexicatl> with police shooting in the university with high caliber weapons
19:12 < mexicatl> we have succeeded in to permitting the PFP the campus
19:12 < mexicatl> we must prevent them from coming on the campus
19:12 < mexicatl> there are already shots fired in the campus
19:13 < mexicatl> the people of oaxaca has stood up to the forces and will not stop until they leave
19:13 < mexicatl> links
19:13 < mexicatl> ---
19:13 < mexicatl> a bmw filming people and taking it to the PFP
19:13 < mexicatl> near the Parque del Amor, PFP presence
19:13 < mexicatl> to all organizing to come to the university, do not let them be detained
19:14 < mexicatl> we must be observant, and know the license plate numbers
19:14 < mexicatl> we must film and document, have as much material as possible to document all the forces attacking and oppressing the people of oaxaca
19:15 < mexicatl> let this be the last act of oppression of ruiz
19:15 < mexicatl> we shall not stop since these are his death throws
19:15 < mexicatl> --
19:15 < mexicatl> the APPO
19:15 < mexicatl> says that the PFP is asking for permission to withdraw from the vicinities
19:16 < mexicatl> asking for people to let them retreat
19:16 < mexicatl> they asked for the opportunity to retreat
19:16 < mexicatl> but they also ask for all the choppers to disppear
19:16 < mexicatl> --
19:17 < mexicatl> the people who are with their dead in the cementaries were gassed
19:18 < mexicatl> are they so ignorant that they don't know that is happening?
19:18 < mexicatl> our rights are being oppressed
19:18 < mexicatl> --
19:18 < mexicatl> the water cannons were refilled
19:19 < Nany> cml updating also
19:19 < mexicatl> a colleague was filming people under supposed authorization
19:20 < mexicatl> and her video was removed
19:20 < mexicatl> because they can't give authority
19:20 < mexicatl> it was a reporter from channel 40, abusing the trust
19:20 < mexicatl> filiming people's face
19:21 < mexicatl> and excuses from taking the video to media and channel 40
19:21 < mexicatl> --
19:21 < mexicatl> the water cannons were being refilled with water and acid
19:21 < mexicatl> calls for mobilizations to oaxaca and the campus
19:22 < mexicatl> our force is the mobilization and we must do it to stand up against the powers
19:22 < mexicatl> ! musical break
19:22  * mexicatl did i miss anything?
19:23  * luna not one thing
19:24  * mexicatl ok, need to go to the bathroom then
19:24  * luna no pasaraaaaan!! no pasaraaaan!!!
19:24  * luna :)
19:27 < mexicatl> ! back
19:27 < luna> we just heard a call to students
19:27 < luna> to come protect the university
19:28 < luna> we heard the university himn
19:28  * luna wanna carry on or take a rest?
19:28 < mexicatl> more choppers, probably to drop tear gas
19:28  * mexicatl i'll try a bit more
19:28 < mexicatl> -- call
19:29 < mexicatl> the PFP and the ministerial police are attacking the people
19:29 < mexicatl> choppers flying over
19:29 < mexicatl> throwing tear gas
19:29 < luna> they are attackingthrowing bombs
19:29 < luna> the people are going to burn a lorry
19:29 < mexicatl> they're gonna burn a bus
19:30 < mexicatl> --
19:30 < luna> 2 more copters
19:30 < luna> throwing grandes
19:30 < luna> gas granades
19:30 < mexicatl> the PFP is not up to the size of the people and had to ask for more choppers
19:30 < luna> two more copters, they dont have enought to overcome The People
19:30 < luna> call to mobilise in mexico city
19:31 < mexicatl> mobilize at the zocalo
19:31 < luna> so that the police resources are split
19:31 < luna> --
19:31  * mexicatl ok, let you take over for a bit :)
19:31  * luna oka
19:32 < luna> we need long rage fireworks
19:32 < luna> glass bottles
19:32 < luna> urgently
19:32 < luna> here in radio universidad
19:32 < luna> we need to remembre
19:32 < luna> in romasa
19:32 < luna> cheuadri
19:32 < luna> and 5 senyores
19:32 < luna> we are fighting
19:33 < luna> there are more hercules copters on their ways
19:33 < luna> way
19:33 < luna> be carefull
19:33 < luna> `explosion
19:34 < luna> we can feel the wind from the copters
19:34 < luna> be carefull cuz the are arresing people with copters
19:34 < luna> the vans are back, are refilled wih water
19:34 < luna> it is important we encircle the police
19:34 < luna> we need to seige them
19:35 < luna> we ask for a red cross ambulance
19:35 < luna> our ambulance is not allowed out 
19:35 < luna> we have a seriously injuerd compa
19:35 < luna> there is a confrontation in colon
19:36 < luna> we need to let the cops siege but not so much that they cant retrive
19:36 < luna> they cant leave
19:36 < luna> we have them surrounded
19:36 < luna> but they have to leave somehow
19:36 < luna> sadly
19:36 < luna> in 5 senyores anther of our compas has been arrested
19:36 < luna> it was the pfp
19:36 < Coyote^> http://www.asambleapopulardeoaxaca.com/boletines/
19:36 < luna> we have to be very careful
19:37 < luna> the PFP has broken the seige with 3 tanks
19:37 < luna> we have to force them to retrieve
19:37 < luna> the poeple of oax are resisting
19:37 < luna> the MP have come in thru the education building
19:38 < luna> dressing grey
19:38 < luna> we need urgently water with vinegar in 5 senyores
19:38 < luna> 2 parts water one vinegar
19:38 < luna> soak a t-shirt
19:38 < luna> the rector 
19:38 < luna> neri
19:38 < luna> is now trying to 
19:39 < luna> front the circle around th pfp
19:39 < luna> we need to locate him
19:39 < luna> and stay next to him
19:39 < luna> so that they dont beat him or us
19:39 < luna> in panteon general
19:39 < luna> people have been beaten
19:39 < luna> which is a violation f our culture
19:40 < luna> we call all of oaxaca to come down to d university 
19:41 < luna> bring coke, rags, vinegar, fireworks etc
19:41 < luna> to kee organised
19:41 < luna> all the police corps 
19:41 < luna> are here
19:41 < luna> it is important that everywhere we stay organised and
19:41 < luna> we call everyone to raise up everywhere
19:42 < luna> if the police is there, stay organised
19:42 < luna> move barricades to university campus
19:42 < luna> we also have reports that they are trying to bring in weapons to the university
19:42 < luna> thru the door the already broke down
19:42 < luna> take pictures of this
19:43 < luna> the only weapons we have is our voice, our hands
19:43 < luna> it is not true we have weapons
19:43 < luna> we need to prove that the PRI and ULO police are planting weapons here
19:43 < luna> urgently we need a
19:44 < luna> an ambulance a red crosse ambulance
19:44 < luna> we have a compa with a broken head
19:44 < luna> broken skull
19:44 < luna> they are not going to allow anyother ambulances in
19:44 < luna> as an international organisation have to come here
19:45 < luna> `they reported earlier that the red cross was refusing to help appo, and only staying with PFP
19:45 < luna> we have heard that we have sabotaged 2 tanks already
19:45 < luna> made them useless
19:45 < luna> great
19:45 < luna> but make sure that we really put them out of service
19:45 < luna> so they cant use them agaoin
19:45 < mexicatl> set them on fire, but needs to be done well so that they will be useless
19:45 < luna> diesel
19:45 < luna> petrol
19:46 < luna> vinegar
19:46 < luna> we need all of this
19:46 < luna> one of our ppl are beng kidnapped in plain cars
19:46 < luna> we need paint stripper
19:47 < luna> to screw the electricity system of the tanks
19:47 < luna> also need burned oil
19:47 < luna> to throw it to the windscreens
19:47 < luna> and cant see
19:47 < luna> take
19:47 < luna> shit
19:47 < luna> black ppaint
19:47 < luna> whaever
19:47 < luna> ad throw it to their windscreen
19:47 < luna> PEOPLE
19:47 < luna> the police are only 10000
19:47 < luna> and we are many more
19:47 < luna> `???
19:48 < luna> the've been here and we want them to leave and never come back
19:48 < luna> peope with cinta canela, foreworks, petrol
19:48 < luna> bring them and come here
19:48 < luna> we must avoid mass arrests
19:48 < luna> wherever we are
19:49 < luna> come to the streets
19:49 < luna> we cant just wait and see
19:49 < luna> the people have to activate
19:49 < luna> the everyone
19:49 < luna> let let them know
19:49 < luna> that we are against corruption 
19:49 < luna> and that we are not giving in to repression
19:49 < luna> ni un paso atra
19:49 < luna> atras
19:50 < luna> lets take shit in bags 
19:50 < luna> and take them to the poepl infront of the police
19:50 < luna> and throw it to them
19:50 < luna> we'd like to take to the hotels union
19:50 < luna> come to the university
19:50 < luna> compas from the hotel unions
19:51 < luna> enought that all the meny from tourism
19:51 < luna> only ends up in the pockets of a few ppl
19:51 < luna> time to stop that
19:51 < luna> time to end that
19:51 < luna> compas
19:51 < luna> we have a call out to 
19:51 < luna> meet with the international press
19:52 < luna> but the good press not the fuckers that have been reporting lies
19:52 < luna> we must get out and lay down white sheet 
19:52 < luna> sheets
19:52 < luna> wherever the copters try to land
19:53 < luna> so the wingiw things get stuck with the white sheets
19:53 < luna> the red cross is not coming
19:53 < luna> not coming
19:53 < luna> so we have to take them out
19:53 < luna> -
19:53 < luna> -
19:54 < luna> report from 5 senyores t
19:54 < luna> they brke in wth a tank
19:54 < luna> and our ppl are dispersing again
19:54 < luna> they came in with their tanks and gasses
19:54 < luna> and we plead to the people of oaxaca 
19:54 < luna> to come to helpp 
19:54 < luna> they are going towards radio universidad
19:55 < luna> one block away
19:55 < luna> people take the streets
19:55 < luna> stop supporting fox and that murderer
19:55 < luna> it is incredible what they are doing to protect a murderer
19:55 < luna> please neighbours
19:55 < luna> go on the roofs 
19:55 < luna> and throw petrol over police vans
19:55 < luna> -
19:56 < luna> angel santos galego 
19:56 < luna> a professor is the man hurt
19:56 < luna> and came here to do his duty
19:56 < luna> and we have to get him out to hospital
19:56 < luna> as the red cross is refusing to come
19:57 < luna> --
19:57 < luna> we know that in the radio
19:57 < luna> and tv
19:57 < luna> they are broadcasting just 
19:57 < luna> the recording of this radio broadcast 
19:57 < luna> that are incendiary
19:57 < luna> not the rest
19:57 < luna> --
19:57 < luna> that guy in the mass media
19:58 < luna> in milenio
19:58 < luna> im sorry for him 
19:58 < luna> what a guy
19:58 < luna> if the repressors ever broke into his house
19:58 < luna> he will just go and hide
19:58 < luna> how sad
19:58 < luna> ---
19:58 < luna> we need glass bottles
19:58 < luna> --
19:58 < psuedo> APPO asks for empty bottles
19:58 < psuedo> Cola sodas
19:59 < luna> the social security building 
19:59 < luna> was a secure building to take our injured
19:59 < psuedo> and fireworks
19:59 < luna> but right now we
19:59 < luna> dont know 
19:59 < luna> if this is still that case
19:59 < luna> we need information
19:59 < luna> please nurses and doctors call in so we know
19:59 < luna> if it is safe to take our injured there
20:00 < luna> the ones that need to be intervened
20:00 < luna> --
20:00 < luna> --
20:00 < luna> teacher,
20:00 < luna> we need to know
20:00 < luna> no
20:00 < luna> it looks like they are coming thru "la noria" now
20:00 < luna> we dont care 
20:00 < luna> if they are rebroadcasting sniplets
20:01 < luna> from our radio
20:01 < luna> --
20:01 < luna> if they are doing that am gonna say something they are not going to rebroadcast
20:01 < luna> --
20:01 < luna> people you have to understand
20:01 < luna> if you have a heart, and have alma mater
20:01 < luna> please, act
20:02 < luna> we have to defend our university
20:02 < luna> it doesnt matter where you graduated from 
20:02 < luna> we have to defend our universities-
20:02 < luna> --
20:02 < luna> we never imagined something like this
20:02 < MM> http://vientos.info/cml/?q=node/6185 English - not actual, needs translators?
20:02 < luna> we are in a virtual war
20:03 < luna> we are trying to break the police siege
20:03 < psuedo> I will translate it MM
20:03 < luna> like comamnder che guevara
20:03 < luna> we are looking for ways to break this siege
20:03 < luna> they are shooting at us
20:03 < luna> the tanks
20:03 < luna> the gass
20:04 < luna> we have this situation in front of us
20:04 < luna> we never imagined
20:04 < luna> we are just trying to defend out city
20:04 < MM> http://vientos.info/cml/ 
20:04 < luna> before that the fascists, he yunque, the extreme right
20:04 < luna> trying to liquidate us
20:04 < luna> --
20:05 < luna> we need to get our proffessor compa out to hospital
20:05 < luna> we need to know if it is safe for him
20:05 < luna> -
20:05 < luna> people are asking how is the channel40 compa
20:05 < luna> that was hurt
20:05 < luna> --
20:05 < luna> she is ok, she is alright, we returned her camera
20:05 < luna> we checked the facts
20:05 < luna> she is not kidnapped
20:06 < luna> she is allright, not hurt
20:06 < luna> and she now has her equippment again so she ca report the truth
20:06 < luna> hopefully well have hre saying something here later
20:06 < luna> ---
20:06 < luna> so you dont worry about your collage
20:06 < luna> -
20:06 < luna> 0
20:07 < luna> liliana santiago is missing her family want to get in touch with her
20:07 < luna> --
20:07 < luna> in cnn in spanish
20:07 < luna> they are saying that the PFP haven come in the university
20:07 < luna> this is not true
20:07 < luna> -
20:07 < luna> -
20:07 < luna> we need coke
20:07 < luna> vinegrar
20:07 < luna> pain stripper
20:07 < luna> petrol
20:07 < luna> fireworks
20:07 < luna> -
20:08 < luna> so we have the channel40 workers so you can see
20:08 < luna> -
20:08 < luna> -
20:08 < luna> -we have a phon ein
20:08 < luna> --
20:08 < luna> at this moment the helicopers are throwing gas every and each place where ppl are resisting
20:08 < luna> indiscriminado
20:08 < luna> they are shooting gas inside the houses
20:09 < luna> people's house
20:09 < luna> everywhere and grenades everywhere
20:09 < luna> the are doing this to defend this murderer
20:09 < luna> we call anone listening via internet
20:09 < luna> to call fox and tell him to stop this
20:09 < luna> -
20:09 < luna> 09034 patrol
20:10 < luna> is going to hq with detained/ stop them
20:10 < luna> --
20:10 < luna> the "kidnapped" journalist speaking
20:10 < luna> am ok
20:10 < luna> its cool, have my equipment and everything and am ok
20:10 < luna> --
20:10 < luna> the guy from el milenio
20:11 < luna> says that he is just reporting what is happening here and he asks us to say that he is just
20:11 < luna> informing what is happening
20:11 < luna> and is being impartial
20:11 < luna> --
20:11 < luna> more arrests
20:11 < luna> towards the airport. stop them
20:11 < luna> --
20:11 < luna> a PFP tank is burning now
20:11 < luna> ppl are really angry
20:12 < luna> in the petrol station in 5 senyores
20:12 < luna> we have to be carefull around that petrol stations
20:12 < luna> --
20:12 < luna> we have to suport our people
20:12 < luna> we are going to give this `PFP and example of struggle
20:12 < luna> --
20:12 < luna> everyone 
20:12 < luna> all the people coming to support
20:13 < luna> we have to distribute ourselves thruout the startegic point around the university
20:13 < luna> so that the police leave - like they are starting to do
20:14 < luna> -
20:14 < luna> -
20:15 < luna> do anything you can do
20:15 < luna> -Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 2:26:34 PM CST
20:15 < barbarossa> in mexico df a demonstration is going on to the policestations of the pfp
20:15  * luna Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 2:26:34 PM CST
20:15 < luna> we have a demo in DF that is heading towards PFP HQ
20:16 < luna> we took he main axis of the poeple for some hours
20:16 < luna> hundreds of us are now going to PFP offices
20:16 < luna> we are going to build a road block
20:16 < luna> so that the PFP leaves oaxaca
20:17 < luna> bring canela tape
20:17 < luna> diesel
20:17 < luna> mutiatic acid
20:17 < luna> petrol
20:17 < luna> to the university
20:17 < luna> --
20:17 < luna> phone in
20:17 < luna> --
20:17 < luna> a tank is burning and they are standing back
20:17 < luna> the pfp are leaving
20:17 < luna> are abandonin 5 senyores
20:18 < luna> although a copter is throwing gas grenades all over the place--
20:18 < luna> --
20:18 < luna> we have another phone calll bye compa
20:18 < luna> ---
20:18 < luna> bring fireworks
20:18 < luna> vinegar 
20:18 < luna> bruned oil
20:18 < luna> ---
20:18 < luna> ---
20:18 < luna> we have a child
20:18 < luna> a seriously inured boy
20:19 < luna> seriously injured because of the gass
20:19  * mexicatl will take over at the :30 for a bit, let luna rest a bit
20:19 < luna> --CARAJO
20:19 < luna> --
20:19 < luna> phone in from demo in DF
20:19 < luna> --
20:19 < luna> there are hundred of organisations here
20:19 < luna> and we are planning a caraban
20:19 < luna> and let us know 
20:20 < luna> how things are going cuz we are not moving till you tel us
20:20 < luna> --
20:20 < luna> --
20:20 < luna> and the fucking red cross is not coming
20:20 < luna> what a democratic institution
20:21 < luna> we have two people, one child seriously injured
20:21  * luna PPL CAN WE CAL THE FUCKING RED CROSS?
20:21 < luna> ---APPO phone call
20:22 < luna> brothes, sister
20:22 < luna> the provisional direction of appo says
20:22 < luna> we call to the raising of barricades all over the city
20:23 < luna> even when the police is gassing people
20:23 < luna> we call for a general people
20:23 < luna> uprising
20:23 < luna> we call for an uprising
20:23 < luna> everywhere
20:23 < luna> build barricades
20:23 < luna> against the invader
20:23 < luna> NI UN PASO ATRAS
20:24 < luna> ---
20:24 < luna> compas
20:24 < luna> if our granparents won the french army
20:24 < luna> and that blood is inside us
20:24 < luna> riseup
20:24 < luna> --
20:25 < luna> if the govenment calls for the PFP to retrieve
20:25 < luna> lets only open up our circle around them in one point
20:26 < luna> and we dont just want them outside our university 
20:26 < luna> or out of our city
20:26 < luna> we want them out of the whole oaxaca
20:26 < luna> we call everyone in this country
20:26 < luna> mobilise
20:26 < luna> let the PFP leave 
20:26 < luna> --
20:26 < luna> we hope that the PFP leave our city
20:26 < luna> arturo chavez
20:27 < luna> from the governmet
20:27 < luna> has ordered the national, the federal police to withdraw
20:27 < luna> --
20:27 < luna> we want to see them leave
20:27 < luna> NOW
20:27 < luna> we are going to, firmer than ever,
20:27 < luna> watch them how they withdraw
20:27 < luna> --
20:28 < luna> we need more compas in chelawi
20:28 < luna> that are chasing the PFP
20:28 < luna> --
20:28 < luna> companyeros
20:28 < luna> we are surrounding the police
20:28 < luna> exgobernor
20:28 < luna> president of the police
20:28 < luna> the people of oaxaca are surrounding you police
20:29 < luna> so we give you the ultimatum
20:29 < luna> withdraw your troops
20:29 < luna> the people of oaxaca has answered the call
20:29 < luna> we have you surrounded
20:29 < luna> --
20:29 < luna> we want those hellicopters out
20:29 < luna> to see them leave
20:30 < luna> as a first sign, NOW 
20:30 < luna> that they are withdrawing
20:30 < luna> the same copters you used to take our people prisoners
20:30 < luna> you are going to use now to BRING THEM BACK
20:30 < luna> --
20:30 < luna> we are showing how 
20:30 < luna> we hate the national police
20:31 < luna> the PFP
20:31 < luna> --
20:31 < luna> the army is leaving
20:31 < luna> we have managed to ( FUCK THEM )
20:31 < luna> `not literal translation
20:31 < luna> every1
20:31 < luna> around the world is demanding that ULO leaves
20:32 < luna> the students are showing again how we are pushing the federal army
20:32 < luna> the people
20:32 < luna> we are winning
20:32 < luna> `oeeee, oeeee
20:32 < luna> we demand the freedom of all of ouur prisoners
20:32 < luna> we demand ULO out
20:33 < luna> we demand tat Fox, the president gies the orther to leave oaxaca
20:33 < luna> we wil not stp till we see those bastards out of power
20:33 < luna> we are demonstrating we are a heroic people
20:33 < luna> we call people as well as monitoring the withdrawal of troops
20:34 < luna> to also build new barricades to make sure they dont come back
20:34 < luna> --
20:34 < luna> we realise that the copters over oaxaca are
20:34 < luna> throwing gas grenades
20:34 < luna> inside peoples houses
20:34 < luna> thousands of people are flooding to 5 senyores round about
20:34 < luna> and the copters are throwing gas eevrwhere
20:35 < luna> we call for the withdrawal of all troops 
20:35 < luna> we dont want you here
20:35 < luna> you thought is would be easy?
20:35 < luna> we are being brave
20:35 < luna> we want you out
20:35 < luna> we know we cant trust you
20:35 < luna> we never trust you
20:36 < luna> remember that they said the wouldnt come into our city and they did
20:36 < luna> it is with our money that you buy those very gasses you are throwing on us
20:36 < luna> if you want a way out
20:36 < luna> if you wat a peaceful outcome
20:36 < luna> we want our political prisoners
20:36 < luna> and we demand ULO out
20:37 < luna> rememer that they said "in the name of god"
20:37 < luna> they wouldnt use force
20:37 < luna> they did
20:37 < luna> --
20:37 < luna> we have reports our injured have reached a hospital
20:37 < luna> --
20:37 < luna> we are seeing now 
20:37 < luna> how tha copters are low flying 
20:38 < luna> and shooting gas grenades thru the windows of the people
20:38 < luna> --
20:38 < luna> we are infirmed that they are leaving the 5 senyores 
20:38 < luna> crossing
20:38 < luna> `claps and cheers in the back ground
20:39 < luna> we have to carry on struggling 
20:39 < bossa> ramona el compa Angel Santos Gallegos ya lleva horas caído con traumatismo craneoencefálico, se ruega alguien pueda armar una Acción Urgente de derechos humano
20:39 < luna> we must have our people released
20:39 < luna> we want them back in the exact same vehicles
20:39 < luna> they used to take the away
20:39 < luna> we have confirmation that 
20:39 < luna> they are leaving
20:40 < luna> ground troops are leaving
20:40 < luna> but that also the copters keep shootint
20:40 < luna> shooting hot gas canisters
20:40 < luna> and we have to be carefull
20:40 < luna> that they dont blow up the petrol station
20:40 < luna> ---
20:40 < luna> we have reports that the mass media
20:41 < luna> is reporting on the injured cops
20:41 < luna> --
20:41 < luna> also they have offered the cathedral to hold peace talks
20:41 < luna> --
20:41 < luna> indy brasil
20:41 < luna> jehuelga
20:41 < luna> ke huelga
20:41 < luna> and in argentina
20:41 < luna> we have messages of support
20:41 < luna> --
20:41 < luna> we cant sing victory yet
20:41 < luna> -- 
20:41 < pwd_ror> supporto from italy too
20:41 < luna> we have to take the opportunity to re organise ourselves
20:42 < luna> -
20:42 < luna> -
20:42 < luna> APPO phones in
20:42 < luna> ---
20:42 < luna> we want to confirm they are withdrawing
20:42 < luna> --
20:42 < luna> we have many many injured in university avenue
20:42 < luna> many
20:42 < luna> children elderly, etc
20:43 < luna> we need ambulances
20:43 < luna> ULO propaganda is saying that we bombed the panteon and some neighbourhoods
20:43 < luna> --
20:43 < luna> back to appo phone in
20:43 < luna> --
20:43 < luna> the secretary of gobernance 
20:43 < luna> has call a withdrawal
20:44 < luna> and we can feel they are obeyng
20:44 < luna> they are leaving
20:44 < luna> but we have to build barricades behind them
20:44 < luna> and also accompany them all the way to the airport
20:44 < luna> q- what are we going to do with our prisoners?
20:45 < luna> -
20:45 < luna> -
20:45 < luna> back
20:45 < luna> -
20:45 < luna> we are not going to allow 
20:45 < luna> we think that the next step they are 
20:46 < luna> planning is
20:46 < luna> to movilise the army
20:46 < luna> and prisoners have to be freed
20:46 < luna> --
20:46 < luna> we wanna take the whole of the people of oaxaca
20:46 < luna> to all those that are coming down from the north and surrounding areas
20:47 < luna> that it is true they are leaving 
20:48 < luna> but we need to se our prisoners out go to airport
20:48  * luna am i the only one smiling at a circus show? on ULO the clown?
20:48 < luna> ULI
20:48 < luna> ULO
20:48 < luna> on his eviction show?
20:50 < luna> people united shall never be defeated
20:50 < luna> song
20:51 < cpunkpunk> luna any idea of how many ppl r on the streets?
20:51  * luna they are playing this song over the broadcast
20:51  * luna millions
20:51 < cpunkpunk> :)
20:51  * luna everyone, with people coming from the countryside too, that why they are fucking off
20:51 < XaViER> what is the name of this song?
20:53 < XaViER> "people united shall never be defeated" is the name?
20:53 < luna> Quilapay?n / Sergio Ortega, 1970, Chile
20:53 < luna> yes thats it
20:53 < luna> they are playing exactly this songs
20:54 < luna> http://www.marxists.org/subject/art/music/index.htm
20:54 < XaViER> thanks luna, youre doing GOOD JOB :-)
20:54 < luna> bunch of reds they are
20:54 < luna> ;)
20:54 < Coyote^> hehehe
20:54 < luna> youll find the translations to the lyrics there
20:55 < luna> 'cmon weve been listening to the same songs for days now
20:55 < luna> "venceremos" is coming
20:55 < luna> take bets
20:55  * luna ANYWAY
20:55 < luna> --
20:55 < luna> --
20:55 < luna> call out to general uprising 
20:55 < luna> and to build barricades
20:56 < luna> --
20:56 < luna> detained
20:56 < luna> isabel galindo
20:56 < luna> hector acsta
20:56 < luna> someone else
20:56 < luna> arrested
20:56 < yuri> amado aguilla
20:56 < luna> students
20:56 < luna> cheers
20:56  * luna can you paste the names in #mexico - for comite cerezo and limeddh
20:57  * luna can someone make sure we get the name of all our injured compas, and dissapeared, and arrested? can some take on writting them down?
21:01 < yuri> amado aguillar 
21:01 < yuri> damn memory
21:01 < luna> 3 detained from ciencias politicas UNAM- DF university
21:01 < luna> same as before
21:01 < luna> isabel galindo
21:01 < luna> 	luna	hector acsta
21:02 < luna> unam students that went down to help resistance in oaxaca
21:02 < luna> from mexico city
21:02 < luna> there are a lot of compas from up there
21:02 < luna> helping out the resistance
21:02  * luna sing along
21:03 < luna> --
21:03 < luna> --
21:03 < luna> it is important to bring our injured to the sos point in uni
21:03 < luna> also to 7 pricipes
21:03 < luna> and in av periferico
21:03 < luna> and iste
21:03 < luna> we have to mobilize out injured
21:05 < luna> we have to confirm
21:05 < luna> we are being told that the PFP is going to the zocalo square
21:05 < luna> people have been seen carrying gas bomb undercover as delivery boys
21:06 < luna> we cant thing that they are retrieving we
21:06 < luna> have to keep alert
21:06 < luna> we have to keep those bastards out
21:06 < luna> it is important to keep toguether and use discipline 
21:07 < luna> make sure we know everyone that has been arested, etc
21:07 < luna> -
21:07 < luna> one thing worries me
21:07 < luna> when you win
21:07 < luna> some of us are tired
21:07 < luna> some are calling to gather
21:07 < luna> and chase them and hit them 
21:07 < luna> in the airport and in zocalo
21:07 < luna> now that we are strong
21:08 < luna> people gave it all here when we were surrounded
21:08 < luna> here in the university
21:08 < luna> we know that
21:08 < luna> we are not trying to split ppl
21:08 < luna> whoever has the energy
21:08 < luna> cool go for it
21:08 < luna> but we cant force people 
21:08 < luna> to chase the PFP out
21:09 < luna> we must make string
21:09 < luna> strong
21:09 < luna> -
21:09 < luna> the people of oaxaca 
21:09 < luna> have shown we are SO strong
21:09 < luna> --
21:09 < luna> we are also informed that the hellicopter are flying over oaxaca
21:09 < luna> we won a battle
21:10 < luna> NO PASARAN COMPA?eros
21:10 < luna> we have shown the word
21:10 < luna> --
21:10 < luna> we are informed that paramilitaries went to panteon general
21:10 < luna> and beat people there who where conmemorating our dead
21:11 < luna> same old, same old
21:11 < luna> --
21:11 < luna> twice they shoot us with firearms in the morning
21:11 < luna> we have to be careful 
21:11 < luna> cuz they will keep running around the city doing the same
21:11 < luna> --
21:12 < luna> we have reports that people in 5 senyores
21:12 < luna> are celebrating
21:12 < luna> but celebrating orderly
21:12 < luna> building back barricades
21:12 < luna> --
21:12 < luna> this is a historic victory
21:12 < luna> --
21:12 < luna> am a student
21:12 < luna> we where resisting for more that 4 hours in a barricade
21:12 < luna> we gave an example of resistance
21:13 < luna> 4 hours
21:13 < luna> and the we chase them out
21:13 < luna> our people are an example
21:13 < luna> not just saying
21:13 < luna> but resisting
21:13 < luna> --
21:13 < luna> we must reorganize
21:14 < luna> if we want everything to go our way 
21:14 < luna> and we want the PFP
21:14 < luna> we must reorganise
21:14 < luna> better that we did today
21:14 < luna> --
21:14 < luna> we have a comunique from APPO
21:14 < luna> -
21:14 < luna> -
21:14 < luna> florentino:
21:14 < luna> we have managed to win this struggle today
21:14 < luna> these hours are crucial
21:15 < luna> we are winninf politically and in the streets
21:15 < luna> in the struggle
21:15 < luna> we have a conection with father ubi
21:15 < luna> the comunication with governement secretary
21:15 < luna> they have called for a withdrawal
21:15 < luna> padre ubi:
21:16 < luna> the church of botello has answer the call to collaborate in this process
21:16 < luna> this morning we talked to the gobernement asking them to go
21:16 < luna> ther is going to be a meeting of lawyer
21:17 < luna> with the lawyer of the PFP
21:17 < luna> and they are going to come with very good 
21:17 < luna> accords
21:17 < luna> lets see if we come to a just outcome
21:18 < luna> and congratulations to everyone participating in the resistance
21:18 < luna> and i call to find a good outcome
21:19  * luna curious call out. coincidence?
21:20 < luna> --
21:20 < luna> they threw everything to us
21:20 < luna> shot
21:20 < luna> -
21:20 < luna> -
21:20 < luna> id like to denounce that my son was kidnapped today
21:20 < luna> and i hold the gobernment responsible
21:20 < luna> and that our prisoners are (marvin peralta hernandez)
21:21 < luna> are treated like human beings,, that they are not raped
21:21 < luna> even in this situation
21:21 < luna> we have to stay firm. adelante companyerxs
21:21 < luna> --
21:22 < luna> we have to look at what we need in terms of first aid
21:22 < luna> we need maestro so and so
21:22 < luna> to come here and support us 
21:22 < luna> he was doing massage during the march 
21:22 < luna> and we need you here
21:22 < luna> --
21:22 < luna> message from mario
21:23 < luna> dad
21:23 < luna> am ok
21:23 < luna> i just where fighting for the people of oaxaca
21:23 < luna> they hit me with a stone in the head and have a ( chichon )
21:23 < luna> but am ok
21:23 < luna> hasta la victoria
21:23 < luna> --
21:24 < luna> we must keep 5 senyores reinforced
21:26 < luna> --
21:27  * luna Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 3:38:01 PM CST
21:27 < luna> we need a list of everyone arrested in this side of the university early
21:28 < luna> guarita says 
21:28 < luna> "i am ok"
21:28 < luna> so that her family are not worried
21:28 < luna> we have won this battle but lets keep fighting 
21:28 < luna> in la carbonera de la noria
21:28 < luna> a caller suggest that we surround the police there
21:29 < luna> so they cant get out
21:29 < luna> ==
21:29 < luna> caller
21:29 < MM> please edit also into: http://cxs2.info/w/index.php?title=Death_Imprisoned_Oaxaca
21:29 < luna> thanks to the priest there for opening the church to help pur injured
21:29 < luna> our
21:30  * luna some fucker in the capitalism media is going to sat that appo is not a popular movement in oaxaca
21:30  * luna or like the BBC the other day:"little resistance"
21:31 < luna> we will continue
21:31 < luna> utill the tyrant ULO gets out once and for all
21:31 < luna> and till the cops leave our state
21:31 < luna> --
21:32  * luna sounding: en la huelga nacional song
21:33 < luna> ---
21:33 < luna> --
21:34 < luna> javier colmenares has been arrested
21:34 < luna> the dogs of the upoe
21:34 < luna> have taken him away
21:34 < luna> and they bastards that did it have been identified
21:34 < luna> so watch out
21:34 < luna> to all teachers
21:34 < luna> be careful
21:35 < luna> colmenares has been taken away
21:35 < luna> they are talking some of us to the air base in "la raya"
21:35 < luna> people in "la colula"
21:35 < luna> we need to know where they are talking our people
21:36 < luna> ---
21:36 < luna> we want to rescue javier moreno colmenares
21:36 < luna> and all of our people that are dissapeared
21:36 < luna> --
21:37 < luna> we are asked to tel you
21:37 < luna> please 
21:37 < luna> lets gather all the gass grenades
21:37 < luna> they threw at us
21:37 < luna> all those cans 
21:37 < luna> we can recycle them or we can use them to denounce the repression
21:37  * luna :)
21:38 < luna> javier was carrying some documents that are really important
21:38 < luna> and we dont want to identify him on air
21:38 < luna> so please get in touch with your wife
21:38 < luna> and lets keep working
21:38 < luna> and fighting for the release og our compas
21:39 < luna> HASTA LA VICTORIA COMPAS
21:39 < luna> --
21:39 < luna> also people are asking to thank the 
21:39 < luna> churches that rang their bells
21:39 < luna> ---
21:39 < luna> we are really deeply proud
21:39 < luna> we managed to get them out of here
21:39 < luna> but
21:39 < luna> we havent won the war
21:39 < luna> this was a batttle
21:39 < luna> we need
21:39 < luna> glass bottles
21:40 < luna> paint stripper
21:40 < luna> diesel
21:40 < luna> fireworks 
21:40 < luna> and so on
21:40 < luna> --
21:40 < luna> invited
21:40 < luna> woman in the studio
21:40 < luna> a drop in
21:40 < luna> they are a bunch of bastards
21:40 < luna> damn u
21:40 < luna> this is the moment
21:41 < luna> people raise up
21:41 < luna> how beatifull
21:41 < luna> HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE
21:41 < luna> --
21:41 < luna> another compa 
21:41 < luna> -
21:41 < luna> id like to find my dad
21:41 < luna> we has an orange hat 
21:42 < luna> and he is not showing up since 6 am
21:42 < luna> we came to 5 senyores to take tortillas to the barricade
21:42 < luna> and we are worried 4 him
21:42 < luna> --
21:42 < luna> we are going to give the instrucctions for the tear gas
21:42 < luna> whic we've done before
21:42 < luna> but you kee i g n o r i n g
21:43 < luna> so we repeat
21:43 < luna> so you get it
21:43 < luna> cuz you are not listening
21:43 < luna> so people
21:43 < luna> lets do this cuz ive seen people again in the barricades and you are not having this stuff and the you cry
21:43 < luna> so listen
21:44 < luna> fill that bag with that stuff
21:44 < luna> get those swimming goggles
21:44 < luna> we have to this ready before hand, compas
21:44 < luna> not like last minute
21:44 < luna> all falling over all over the place
21:44 < luna> and get that vinegar and that mask and put it all in your bag
21:44 < luna> with the water
21:44 < luna> ok?
21:45  * luna she is a teacher, and very strickt and patronising with this stuff
21:45 < luna> ---
21:45 < luna> JESUS
21:45 < luna> really
21:45 < luna> what do we have hear?
21:45 < luna> a guerrilera
21:46 < luna> can believe my eyes
21:46  * luna a baby voice
21:46 < luna> "they took my watermelons the police
21:46 < luna> how ols are you?
21:46 < luna> old?
21:46 < luna> they took my rings
21:46 < luna> jesus!
21:46 < luna> what bad police
21:46 < luna> six
21:47 < luna> six years old
21:47 < luna> lets listen to your sister
21:47 < luna> we are in la colonia 
21:47 < luna> andwe where 4 women 
21:47 < luna> with sticks
21:47 < luna> and the police pointed their cannons at us 
21:47 < luna> and we were afraid
21:48 < luna> but we managed to eventually pass
21:48 < luna> by
21:48 < luna> -
21:48 < luna> what really wants to make you cry
21:48 < luna> is that this girl of 6 brough us her savings
21:48 < luna> and the PRI supporters will say that
21:48 < luna> we are poisoning our childrens ideas
21:48 < luna> but we are educating them
21:49 < luna> her name is marlen martinez torres
21:49 < luna> what do you want us to buy with your savings?
21:49 < luna> we can buy food
21:49 < luna> medicines
21:49 < luna> what do you want?
21:49 < luna> " a bazooka"
21:49  * luna joke
21:49 < luna> "food"
21:49 < luna> ok we will buy food
21:49 < luna> --
21:50 < luna> so people are chanting in the streets people
21:50 < luna> celebrating
21:50 < luna> ULO already fell
21:50 < luna> --
21:50 < luna> call from italy
21:50 < luna> hello
21:50 < luna> have a problem with the call
21:50 < luna> --
21:51 < luna> italy is here
21:51 < luna> "a big hug from yabasta association
21:51 < luna> and here like you 
21:51 < luna> we are mobilising
21:51 < luna> to say basta in fron of the embassy
21:51 < luna> for the people of oaxaca
21:52 < luna> and you have showed us how to apply 
21:52 < luna> blah 
21:52 < luna> we fight for the situations of the emigrants and precarity and this is a really important struggle, just like yours
21:52 < luna> ---
21:57 < luna> --
21:59  * luna Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 4:10:43 PM CST
22:00  * luna a politician from mexico city calling in
22:00 < luna> we denounce the response of PFP
22:00 < luna> and we are for the exit of pfp from oaxaca
22:00 < luna> and the sacking of ULO
22:01 < luna> and for the recognition of the moral authority of APPO
22:01 < luna> and celebrate you use of simple stuff like sticks and stones to defend yourselves
22:01 < luna> we are an example
22:02 < luna> VIVA LA APPO
22:02 < luna> --
22:02 < luna> anything else?
22:02 < luna> --
22:02 < luna> we are enrage
22:02 < luna> you are the vanguard in mexico
22:02 < luna> against this fascist gobernement
22:02 < luna> -
22:02 < luna> -
22:02 < luna> we have a phone in from all of our pple
22:03 < luna> who are right now outside our front door
22:06  * luna cries of joy from people outside
22:06 < luna> political prisoners FREEDOM
22:06 < yuri> :)
22:29 < Coyote^> http://www.jornada.unam.mx:8080/ultimas/barricada.JPG/image/image_view_fullscreen
22:37 < pwd_ror> no translation?
22:37 < pwd_ror> we need you from italy
22:39 < thibautcho> someone can translate ? who's speaking
22:49 < NorthStar> http://www.jornada.unam.mx:8080/ultimas/chocan-pfp-y-appo-en-alrededores-de-ciudad-universitaria/image/image_view_fullscreen
22:50 < Coyote^> ouch
23:05 < luna> copters back
23:05 < luna> flying low over oaxaca
23:10 < gdm> 4 helicoptors have returned
23:12 < psuedo> do you want a radio appo translator???? Im not a great translator but I can try
23:13 < jolly> pseudo: go for it !!!
23:13 < jolly> ;-)
23:13 < jolly> would be nice..
23:14 < psuedo> alright... here I go
23:14 < mara> psuedo: do it in #radioappo
23:14 < psuedo> Radio universidad is asking for chains and locks
23:14 < mara> sorry confused
23:15 < psuedo> I want to give a greeting to the fuckers whos cut the chains at the churchs to play the jingles
23:16 < psuedo> greeting to my soons, my family....
23:16 < psuedo> we are 3 generations fighting
23:16 < psuedo> traitors who wanted the police to come... go home
23:17 < psuedo> we won this battle
23:17 < psuedo> and we are going to win all next battles
23:17 < psuedo> We have resisted this battle,
23:18 < psuedo> this was one battle but It wont be the only one
23:18 < psuedo> This is not a local problem, this is an national and international problem
23:18 < psuedo> Good evening...
23:18 < psuedo> Im glad to be here
23:18 < psuedo> I was thinking ....
23:18 < psuedo> I cant do anything at home
23:19 < psuedo> I have to go out and fight
23:19 < psuedo> we feel humiliated, not defeated...
23:19 < psuedo> we are mixicans
23:19 < psuedo> and we need to be free
23:19 < psuedo> of those represors
23:19 < psuedo> Like Vicente fox
23:20 <@stacy> we will not tolerate another Atenco
23:20 < psuedo> who is going to show tomorrow telling lies
23:20 < psuedo> we have been humiliated, they have violeted our rights
23:20 < psuedo> I feel like crying, but I wont cry, I now feel strong
23:21 < psuedo> against PFP who has stolen our houses
23:21 < psuedo> we cant let this happen
23:21 < psuedo> they have violated our women
23:21 < psuedo> we cant let i t happen
23:21 < psuedo> We have to defend ourselves
23:22 < psuedo> against the people from URO
23:22 < psuedo> Fuera UROs de Oaxaca Y fuera PFP
23:22 < psuedo> Out URO AND PFP
23:23 < psuedo> APPO ask for help an Vicente Guerrero Suburbs
23:23 < psuedo> to reforce the barricades
23:23 < psuedo> good evening
23:23 < psuedo> its great news that the people didnt allow the take of the univeristy
23:23 < psuedo> I want to thank the great people of oaxaca
23:24 < psuedo> there were some wounded
23:24 < psuedo> One profesor was wounded but is now under treatment
23:25 < psuedo> (Im sorry, this is too hard to translate) I m doing my best, Im sorry
23:26 < psuedo> (Any volunteer to continue to translate)??
23:26 < psuedo> We ask for social justice
23:27 < psuedo> thank you very much
23:27 < psuedo> PFP had to retire because of the people
23:27 < psuedo> this is not going to stop until we get what we want
23:28 < psuedo> we have confirmed that the helicopters are landing on the women jail in tlacolula
23:29 < psuedo> PFP is concentrated at the airport
23:29 < Coyote^> psuedo you're doing great
23:29 < psuedo> ty
23:29 < psuedo> we are not going to remove our barricades at the univeristy
23:29 < psuedo> vecause that will allow them to continue to kill us
23:30 < psuedo> we ask for duct tape, fireworks
23:30 < psuedo> maps
23:30 < psuedo> maps from 5 señores
23:31 < psuedo> people with missing family can call 9511246941
23:31 < gaba> hector guzman acosta was disappeared
23:31 < psuedo> Hector german acosta was arrested by PFP while he was on shoping
23:32 < psuedo> the are taking all the arrested people to the womens jail
23:32 < psuedo> Talk to your family, tell them that you are ok
23:32 < psuedo> we are fighting for our rights...
23:32 < psuedo> we have nothing to be ashamed off
23:33 < psuedo> Helicopter PF302 PF 305 is transporting arrested people
23:33 < psuedo> there are some 8 persons on each helicopter
23:33 < barbarossa> two helicopters with the number pf 302 and pf305 were identified, for all the human right organisations
23:34 < psuedo> (Some sort of prayer
23:34 < psuedo> )
23:35 < gaba> praying for the death people and the struggle
23:38 < psuedo> Please understand...
23:38 < psuedo> that we won a battle and not the war...
23:39 < psuedo> TV Azteca said that PFP is reorganizing
23:39 < psuedo> we nned to reinforce our barricades
23:39 < psuedo> Lets make holes so the Trucks cant pass
23:40 < psuedo> there is still represion
23:40 < psuedo> on the road mexico-monte alban they are arresting people
23:41 < psuedo> this heroic response from the people from oaxaca is builing ....
23:41 < psuedo> praying fast
23:42 < psuedo> we understand that religion is important....
23:42 < psuedo> but we first need to inform people
23:43 < psuedo> good evening
23:43 < psuedo> I came to say that my husband was arreted at 12:30 togheter with other people
23:43 < psuedo> they ara at the militaty base No 15
23:43 < psuedo> but they wont let us in
23:44 < psuedo> for all the families who have missing family members.... lets go to the military base 15
23:44 < psuedo> they are taking them to some jail
23:44 < gaba> we come here to ask the police to leave and ulises to resign
23:44 < psuedo> we need to see our family members, we have to make sure that they are alright
23:45 < psuedo> (gaba will continue to translate) I wil be reight back
23:45 < psuedo> (music)
23:46 < gaba> somebody from argentina calling
23:46 < gaba> from buenos aires
23:46 < psuedo> Juan sin tierra Song, Victor Jara
23:47 < gaba> his name is carlos (i think)
23:47 < gaba> they have been all day following what is happening in oaxaca
23:47 < gaba> he says that is really impressive to see the people in oaxaca
23:47 < gaba> all the courage
23:47 < gaba> that they kick away the pfp
23:47 < gaba> you people in oaxaca are an example for all latinoamerica
23:47 < gaba> to fight against the people that opress us
23:48 < gaba> from our grouo contraimagen
23:48 < gaba> we organize our solidarity with your struggle
23:48 < gaba> and in support of our friend brad killed
23:48 < gaba> it is importan to know that the workers and people can kick out the governments
23:48 < gaba> it is a great example
23:49 < gaba> we have to continue in this struggle until ulises leave
23:49 < gaba> we want to salut you
23:49 < gaba> we have been in contraimgen in oaxaca documenting
23:49 < gaba> and it is an example for argentina and all latinoamerica
23:49 < gaba> we are learning from you all
23:49 < gaba> congratuilations and count on us for everything
23:49 < gaba> salu
23:50 < gaba> the reporter in oaxaca is talking again
23:50 < gaba> and says thanks to the ppl from argentina and revaindicating the struggle from brad killed in oaxaca
23:50 < gaba> she says that is all our responsability to defend our oaxaca
23:50 < gaba> we are convinced that we are gonna win
23:51 < gaba> licenciado german vazques( i think) was detained in the afternoon
23:51 < gaba> at 1:30 pm
23:51 < gaba> he is from the law university
23:51 < gaba> he is disappeared
23:51 < gaba> somebody contact his family
23:51 < gaba> other guy is saying that please permit the priest ruby to go through the barricades
23:52 < gaba> he has something important to do
23:52 < gaba> he is going to the airport
23:52 < gaba> now in the radio there is a child of 7 years
23:52 < gaba> he is gonna talk
23:52 < psuedo> the boys father is missing
23:52 < gaba> the child: i want to say that what is happening in oaxaca is very sad
23:53 < gaba> i have seen so many things that i cant explain with my words
23:53 < gaba> but i want to express in radio universidad
23:53 < gaba> the ppl in the university are seeing the things on the front and they are winning a lot of things
23:53 < gaba> the teachers too
23:53 < gaba> (pseudo continues)
23:54 < psuedo> I cant express with word what Im feeling
23:54 < psuedo> I know that people from the univeristy have done plenty of things
23:54 < psuedo> thogheter with the magisterio
23:55 < psuedo> We have to be aware of PFP, PFP ut of oaxaca today
23:55 < psuedo> Congratulations to the univeristy for all the things that they have done
23:55 < elisa> does anybody knows the telephone of the radio?, ppl from brazil want to call
23:56 < psuedo> This a a great histoy class for all our children
23:57 < psuedo> good evening..
23:57 < psuedo> im a doctor
23:57 < psuedo> Im here to help APPO
23:57 < psuedo> and all people
23:57 < psuedo> we have been fighting all the time
23:57 < psuedo> I want to send a message to al people can congratuulate them for this...
23:57 < psuedo> heroic fight
23:57 < psuedo> Body agianst arms
23:57 < psuedo> A call from brasil
23:58 < psuedo> good night...
23:59 < psuedo> I call to say that the protests in brasil have been a lot
23:59 < psuedo> we are with you
23:59 < psuedo> We are all Oaxaca
23:59 < psuedo> We demand the leaving of URO
--- Log closed Fri Nov 03 00:00:16 2006
--- Log opened Fri Nov 03 00:00:16 2006
--- Day changed Fri Nov 03 2006
00:00 < psuedo> The brazilian ambasy said tha there are no represion
00:00 < psuedo> Nice greating to oaxacas people
00:00 < psuedo> Bad governors are everywhere, serving imperialism
00:01 < psuedo> Oaxaca people is awakening...
00:01 < psuedo> we still have lots to do
00:01 < psuedo> lets go deep in our concience
00:02 < psuedo> Congrats to the people who defended our Palacio municipal
00:03 < psuedo> I am still fighting
00:03 < psuedo> Hasta la victoria siempre
00:03 < psuedo> Calling...
00:04 < psuedo> i want to alert all people fron Ciudad universitaria...
00:04 < psuedo> that the other raadio from PRI is....
00:04 < psuedo> asking for more policeman to attack at night
00:05 < psuedo> they are all stupids
00:05 < psuedo> PFP might comback at night
00:05 < psuedo> lets take down the other Radio transmiter
00:06 < psuedo> we have to take this Radio from air
00:06 < psuedo> Tey are saying bullshit from this radio
00:06 < psuedo> APPO recovers cruzero de 5 señores
00:07 < psuedo> after 6 and a half ours PFP retired
00:07 < psuedo> 3 buses were burned
00:07 < psuedo> and two cars
00:07 < psuedo> · journalist were wounded
00:08 < psuedo> 3 journalists
00:08 < psuedo> Some news report
00:09 < psuedo> It would be ilegal if PFP enters the university
00:11 < psuedo> we are not willing to go any step back
00:11 < psuedo> making human chains
00:11 < psuedo> resisting
00:12 < psuedo> alert!!! PFP is moving from the airport
00:12 < psuedo> ALERT!!!
00:12 < psuedo> PFP is moving
00:12 < psuedo> remember to stay calm
00:12 < psuedo> 2 more missing people, pleas call home
00:12 < psuedo> we make vicente fos responsible from theese people missing
00:13 < psuedo> this a an alert moment!!!
00:13 < psuedo> a profesor says...
00:13 < psuedo> i recieved a call from monterrey to congratulate us for our fight
00:14 < psuedo> the profesor suggest the opening of a bank account....
00:14 < psuedo> so people all over mexico can make donations
00:14 < psuedo> PFP is reorganizing, we also have to reorganize
00:15 < psuedo> We have plenty of food here, come and have some
00:15 < psuedo> (MUSIC)
00:19 < psuedo> The military forces from mexico is stoping people on the roads
00:19 < psuedo> searching for guns
00:19 < psuedo> they have big lists of people to arrest
00:19 < psuedo> be carefull people
00:19 < psuedo> we need 6 meters of big chain
00:20 < psuedo> List of arrested and missing:
00:20 < gaba> desaparecidos : victor javier cruz garcia, 39 anis
00:20 < gaba> angel santos tgallegos
00:20 < gaba> rodolfo hernandez leon
00:20 < gaba> malvin peralta hernandez
00:20 < gaba> javier moreno colmenares
00:20 < psuedo> we need gasoline, diesel, fireworks, bottles, chile, cigarrets
00:20 < gaba> diego nigolas hernandes, 21 years
00:20 < gaba> teodoro aquino
00:20 < gaba> andres perez
00:21 < gaba> last friday, rigoberto hernandez, teacher
00:21 < gaba> diego hernandez lopez
00:21 < gaba> heber santiago aquino
00:21 < gaba> teodoro aquino bolanio
00:21 < gaba> eduardo hernandez mendoza
00:21 < gaba> yolanda beltran valentin and her sister
00:21 < gaba> valentin perez hernandez
00:21 < gaba> diego nicolas hernandez lopez
00:22 < psuedo> eduardo hernadez mendoza, 32 years
00:23 < psuedo> Groups of 15 or 20 persons have been taken....
00:23 < psuedo> Please call to tell us if you have any family member missing
00:23 < psuedo> Good evening
00:24 < psuedo> Im proudly university ex student
00:24 < psuedo> we cant allo any police forces violate our university
00:24 < psuedo> which we have always defended
00:24 < psuedo> as a lawyer....
00:24 < psuedo> I can say that we have defended our university
00:25 < psuedo> we defended our university with help of our people
00:25 < psuedo> Lets deffend our university
00:25 < psuedo> lets defend our dignity
00:26 < psuedo> there have been plenty of human right violations
00:26 < psuedo> Vicente fox has never been able to governate
00:27 < psuedo> He has always been under George Bush
00:27 < psuedo> Calling from argentina
00:28 < psuedo> we want to salute you
00:28 < psuedo> express our solidarity
00:29 < psuedo> we want to keep in touch with you, establish a contact
00:29 < psuedo> so we can transmit your radio here in argentina
00:30 < psuedo> We are going to defend our university, if we need to give our lives we will do it
00:30 < Tonton> Transmito tiene todo el pueblo de oaxaca toda mi admiración, mi sostén y mi estímulo
00:30 < psuedo> The goverment is going down
00:30 < psuedo> we ask for lamps
00:30 < psuedo> PFP is reorganizing
00:30 < mahtin> (flashlights, i think)
00:30 < mahtin> and batteries
00:31 < psuedo> they may be reorganizing to leave, but we dont know
00:31 < mahtin> and reflectors
00:31 < psuedo> They have already sweared on the name of good that PFP wouldnt come
00:31 < psuedo> so we cant trust them
00:31 < psuedo> We nned matches, lighters, cigatrretes
00:31 < psuedo> We are tired...
00:32 < psuedo> this was an amazing batlle, Dvid Vs Goliath
00:32 < psuedo> Good night people from oaxaca
00:32 < psuedo> we are recieving plenty of help from people
00:32 < psuedo> we have recieved vinegar, food
00:33 < psuedo> Women at home, you can help....
00:33 < psuedo> come get some food and cock it at home...
00:33 < psuedo> and bring it back
00:33 < psuedo> thank you very much
00:33 < psuedo> we are very happy
00:33 < psuedo> not only because we won the battle
00:33 < Tonton> ¿ Cómo explica su jubilación? ¿ Táctica frente a su resistencia? ¿ O discusiones a alto nivel (la iglesia, cameron, etc)?
00:33 < psuedo> but, for all the people help
00:34 < psuedo> Tonton, no chat please
00:34 < psuedo> Our anonymuss heros...
00:34 < psuedo> all people that send us food
00:34 < psuedo> congratulations
00:34 < psuedo> our mood is up...
00:35 < psuedo> this is an example of braveness, organization and dignity
00:35 < psuedo> Calling from APPO
00:35 < psuedo> good night
00:35  * luna briliant psuedo
00:35 < psuedo> this fight has been a succes
00:35 < psuedo> our people went out to the streets
00:36 < psuedo> and fought bravely
00:36 < psuedo> thanks to the thousend of people who defended us
00:36 < psuedo> who defended radio universidad
00:36 < psuedo> (ty luna)
00:37 < psuedo> (sorry I had a phone call)
00:38 < psuedo> URO is organizing people to agitate
00:38 < psuedo> so that PFP reacts against us
00:38 < psuedo> We are trying to find our missing people
00:39 < psuedo> we need to find all our missing people to continue our fight
00:39 < psuedo> Inmediate Freedom to our political prsioners
00:40 < psuedo> There was a robery at a motorcycle shop... We are not responsible
00:41 < gaba> (music)
00:48 < psuedo> we want to thank people who brought radios to communicate
00:48 < psuedo> Greeting to all students and professors
00:49 < psuedo> we are tired.. this was a rough battle
00:49 < psuedo> Hasta la victria siempre
00:50 < psuedo> People from medical institutions....
00:50 < psuedo> Good night...
00:50 < psuedo> I came her to invite all people from ETLA
00:50 < psuedo> lets continue until URO falls
00:50 < brie> we prefer to die here on our feet fighting
00:51 < brie> now is the time to stand up
00:51 < psuedo> I want to thank all people who participated on todays battle fro our university
00:51 < psuedo> Weits time to protest agains this damn goverment
00:51 < psuedo> people from etla wake up and fight as you can, with food
00:51 < psuedo> with your body
00:52 < psuedo> Jose Daniel Carreño Cruz is missing, please call home
00:52 < psuedo> Calling from Canada
00:53 < brie> Vancouver
00:53 < psuedo> we are very produ of what you achieved today
00:53 < psuedo> we took the embassy
00:53 < psuedo> and the consulate
00:53 < psuedo> made some grafittis
00:53 < psuedo> blocked the trafic
00:54 < psuedo> a friend of us was arrested but we were able to get her back inmediatly
00:56 < psuedo> we are making preassure on the mexican and canadian goverment
00:56 < brie> I want you all to reflect on the fact that we're university people - that the university needs us
00:56 < brie> and we'll fight for the autonomy ofour universities
00:56 < brie> thank you very much for being here, and we'll be seeing you
00:57 < brie> and now we're going forward, step by step, and step by step we're going to get there
00:57 < psuedo> Thanks to this university we are now professionals
00:57 < psuedo> thanks to this university we can make a places better
00:57 < psuedo> thats why I reject PFP at the university
00:58 < psuedo> Students please understand that we need to be united to defend our university
00:58 < psuedo> I work at DIF
00:58 < brie> I'm looking at these kids as a mother, they're lying in beds and they can't even move
00:58 < psuedo> I make a call to mr Ulises, (if you can call it mr)
00:59 < psuedo> go out ....
00:59 < brie> (gas victims)
00:59 < psuedo> sick children gas victims
00:59 < psuedo> the girl is really angry
00:59 < psuedo> because sick children were affected by gas
00:59 < brie> use this rage that you're feeling to move us forward
01:00 < brie> we're going to keep crying, but next time we're going to be crying for joy
01:00 < brie> and everyone thank you, we have a lot of food
01:00 < brie> and that's what the PFP wants, because they don't have food
01:00 < brie> what the Priistas delivered to them was uncooked food, not like what we have here
01:00 < brie> so THEY need food, but thank you, we have food
01:01 < brie> talk to the people who are in the barricades that need food
01:01 < brie> through us, at the radio
01:02 < brie> representatives from the union are coming at noon, in Santo Domingo
01:02 < brie> Nina Morales Lopez is a teacher that's missing - please call the radio
01:03 < brie> a 15 year old girl was gassed who had nothing to do with the conflict
01:03 < brie> the PFP should know what they're doing to them.  thank you for listening
01:03 < brie> the doctors are coming back
01:04 < brie> people need to get rid of their sadness and get rid of their impotence and come to fight
01:04 < brie> many of our young people have been detained
01:04 < brie> this 15 year old girl was also affected, and she had nothing to do with the conflict
01:04 < brie> but it doesn't matter, we're going to keep talking
01:04 < brie> because the people of Oaxaca have a lot of dignity
01:04 < brie> and this is the only voice that the people in the struggle have right now
01:05 < brie> your voice, that's coming through this radio station
01:05 < brie> the rights of Oaxcans, it is coming through these microphones
01:05 < brie> and what we have is the ability to struggle through the media
01:05 < brie> radio APPO is unfortunately off the air
01:05 < brie> but this is the other voice that we have, as the people of Oaxaca
01:05 < brie> and we're going to keep going with all of our dignity
01:06 < brie> a nurse was killed
01:06 < brie> all of the health sector and the secretary of health and the private sector
01:07 < brie> (having trouble keeping up, sorry)
01:07  * brie will use ACTION to express translator stuff from now
01:07  * brie has to step out for a second
01:09 < brie> we are going to say the phone numbers of the Oaxacan national network of human rights
01:09 < brie> hopefully tomorrow we'll have the numbers of the 5 men who are missing so we'll know where they are
01:09 < brie> the military police and the mexican army have created a very serious situation
01:10 < brie> they're wearing the vests of the mexican army
01:10 < brie> the state and international forces
01:10  * brie missing some, apologies
01:10 < brie> they can no longer treat us as animals
01:11 < brie> animals defend themselves effectively
01:11 < krimikolle> brie> they can no longer treat us as animals
01:11 < krimikolle>  <brie> animals defend themselves effectively
01:11 < brie> err
01:11 < brie> that's in reference to the police
01:11 < brie> they are animals, they don't defend themselves effectively
01:11 < brie> but we shouldn't compare any animal to URO because that's an insult to the animal
01:12 < brie> these soldiers in Oaxaca are animals that don't exist in any other places
01:12 < brie> the oxen and the donkies, the PFP, and the military, you can't call them human beings because they're animals
01:13 < brie> representatives of the unions are coming tomorrow at noon to our camp
01:13 < brie> the 22nd section of the APPO is coming tomorrow,in santo domingo
01:13 < brie> for the assembly
01:13 < brie> (another name of someone missing)
01:13 < psuedo> at 12:00
01:14 < brie> section 22 of the teacher's union, correction
01:14 < brie> we're asking if you can send money for the people that are detained and missing
01:14 < brie> this is the message that we're asking to be sent out
01:14 < psuedo> Trying to locate Fermin garcia Silva
01:15 < brie> the PRI is defending a cruel and corrupt system of government
01:15 < brie> and all that we are fighting for is a better way of life
01:15 < brie> we shouldn't be divided among ourselves, this is what I'm asking those of you who are listening
01:15 < brie> we can't be quiet
01:15 < brie> from radio planton
01:16 < brie> radio APPO has had a relevant influence, and role
01:17  * brie would like someone to step up to live translate
01:17  * luna is anyone talking this on?
01:17  * brie suggests luna go for it
01:17  * luna luna suggests brie
01:18  * luna :P
01:18  * brie will do it for awhile longer, but I need help
01:18  * luna ok one a couple of minutes
01:18  * luna amtrying to set up a noise filter on this till they retune the transmisor
01:19 < brie> thank you very much, teacher
01:19  * Sweeper just turns the top 3 bands on his equalizer all the way down
01:19 < brie> it's completely absurd...
01:20 < brie> hello corades, I am asking for the immediately removal of URO
01:20 < brie> I hope that you rae listening to me
01:20  * brie comrades
01:20 < brie> goddamn all of you, that won't do what you can do to defend our Oaxacan pubelo
01:20 < brie> ruiz already fell!
01:21 < brie> all of the people that we find in our city, they should have the force of this young girl
01:21 < brie> even when our energy level is low, she's raising her voice
01:21 < brie> and even though we might be afraid, we need to step it up
01:21 < brie> and now we'll have a musical pause
01:21 < brie> before we take our pause we want to thank all of the families for delivering food and aid
01:21 < brie> and right now we need food to be sent to the center for the radio
01:22 < brie> cooked food, to be prepared and cooked
01:22 < brie> and now we're going to start dancing outside, step it up everyone, energy
01:22 < brie> we're going to play something happy, something exciting
01:22 < brie> (musical break)
01:22 < Prax01D> Hi
01:22 < Prax01D> Hola
01:23  * brie points out the topic - no chat here, translation only
01:23  * brie if others can help me translate it would help, I'm not catching everything
01:24  * mexicatl will gladly help in about half an hour
01:25 < jolly> [ luna: clearest stream i know is: http://streaming.com.mx:8006/ ]
01:26 < psuedo> Im translating now.....
01:26 < psuedo> right now there is music playing
01:30 < brie> we're asking ruiz to stop killing people
01:30 < brie> (a poem)
01:30 < Prax01D> Why would they stop?
01:30 < brie> we want to ask the support of the people
01:31 < brie> because the PFP is in love park
01:31 < brie> they're moving neighbors, please go to park d'armour (love park)
01:31 < brie> go there and confirm to us that they're moving, we need to know if they're moving towards us
01:32 < brie> we're going to continue saying names of people who have been detained or disappeared
01:32 < brie> we're also asking for materials that we need
01:32 < brie> AA batteries
01:32 < brie> t-shirts
01:32 < psuedo> PFP is at the love park, presumable thowards the university
01:32 < brie> batteries for a flashlight, flashlights
01:32 < brie> gloves
01:32 < brie> this is the list of things that we need
01:33  * brie notes translation not complete
01:33 < brie> hopefully you can help us in the ways that you can
01:33 < brie> we need wood
01:33 < brie> AAA batteries as well
01:33 < brie> we're going to keep going, we'll be continually going
01:33 < psuedo> socks, masks, googles,
01:34 < brie> I have the name of Roberto Vasquez Hernandez
01:34 < brie> this is the complete name of the professor that was disappeared
01:34 < brie> we're looking for the person that has the backpack of the Blue Cross
01:34 < brie> please bring it to the university radio
01:35 < brie> (discussion of police at the park)
01:35 < brie> Jimmy, please report to your house
01:35 < brie> the engineer, Garcia, was detained
01:35 < luna> chidrawui
01:36 < luna> 6 convoys of pfp
01:36 < luna> are organising
01:36 < psuedo> 6 trucks filled with policemen left parque del amor
01:36 < brie> one of the academics that was defeinding the autonomous university was beaten
01:36 < brie> he's received several injuries, and we're sending fraternal wishes of love to him
01:37 < brie> please, to the neighbors that are close to love park...
01:37 < brie> we're asking all the people that are around there to report to the radio
01:37 < brie> citizens of Oaxaca, get all of your stuff that makes noise
01:37 < brie> pots, pans, whatever
01:38 < brie> from all different levels - from the barriacdes, the houses, whatever - that you report to the radio
01:38 < brie> we do things this way with organization
01:38 < psuedo> In case that the signal goes out of iar, it might be that we are under attack
01:38 < brie> it doesn't matter the risk of they detain us .... 
01:38 < brie> hello to all of the people that have been defending the dignity of oaxaca
01:38 < brie> I think it's important that none of you stay in their houses
01:38 < brie> we remember the epic of peasant wars
01:39 < brie> of president juarez, sorry
01:39  * brie notes last msg a correction not a translation
01:39 < brie> this radio station is the only dignified voice that is coming out of Oaxaca right now
01:40 < brie> Oaxaca is the farthest behind in economics, in economic development ---- all Mexicans should be embracing the Oaxacan fight right now
01:40 < brie> brothers, this fight is to liberate our people, from these fucking assholes that are trying to govern right now
01:40 < brie> we can't be following this idiot that doesn't even have a brain
01:40 < brie> if this guy wants to negotiate, he needs to come to Oaxaca
01:41 < brie> and it's just like in the epic of President Juarez, I'm inviting all of you to become part of the struggle
01:41 < brie> thank you
01:41 < brie> People of Oaxaca, on the 31st of october these were the people that were disappeared:
01:41 < brie> (list of names)
01:42 < brie> these are the people that are missing, and if you hear from any of them please report it so their families can hear from radio universidad
01:42 < brie> good evening friends and people that are listening, in some way supporting the struggle
01:42 < brie> the struggle is very important because we're all coming together to try to repel the federal forces that are attacking us
01:42 < brie> this is a government that is manipulating us
01:43 < brie> and trying to mess with people that are very poor, that have very few resources
01:43 < brie> university people supporting this movement
01:43 < brie> we're repremainding the government, and we're letting them know that it won't be possible to manipulate poor people
01:43 < brie> this is the way that I wanted to express myself, thank you for letting me.  good night.
01:43 < brie> another person that has come to report about the people who hav ebeen detained or disappeared:
01:44 < brie> good night.  If the engineer would make a call to his family... Hermin Garcia, if you could please call your family....
01:44 < brie> we have more information on the disappeared and detained
01:44 < brie> we're going to be continually giving this information
01:44 < brie> the mexican legal defense league is giving us a number
01:44 < brie> this is their office number
01:44 < brie> everyone should know that they've detained a friend of ours
01:45  * brie scratch that
01:45 < brie> if they have detained someone you know, you should report their name, the date, the time, and where they were taken
01:45 < brie> if you can confirm where they were taken, then we can help confirm it
01:46 < brie> also report occupation
01:46 < brie> call the radio station with this information, and the mexican league of civil defense is there
01:46 < brie> so we have this list and unfortunately each time we look at it, it gets more serious and longer
01:46 < brie> the Oaxcan network of human rights is also helping us in this way
01:46 < brie> {phone number given}
01:47 < brie> these are the numbers for the oaxcan national human rights
01:47 < brie> here again is the list of materials we're asking for
01:47 < brie> (see above)
01:47  * brie needs to step back
01:48  * brie can anyone else step forward?
01:48 < psuedo> I will brie
01:48  * brie steps back
01:49 < psuedo> IfURO wont quit then Felipe Calderon wont pass
01:50 < psuedo> We know how much have suffered our comrades at atenco, sicartsa...
01:50 < psuedo> so we wont let the federal goverment win time
01:50 < psuedo> they want to make us weak
01:51 < psuedo> We will show Vicente Fox And felipe calderon that we wont quit
01:51 < psuedo> Military is dressed as PFP
01:51 < psuedo> we wont fall, we wont quit
01:52 < psuedo> Our main political goal is the falling of URO
01:52 < psuedo> We have the responsability of fighting for a better oaxaca
01:53 < psuedo> Tomorrow we shall deciede our route
01:53 < psuedo> Our people kept PFP away, but this is not over...
01:53 < psuedo> We are all united
01:53 < psuedo> Mexico is Oxaca
01:54 < psuedo> All the world is Oaxaca
01:54 < psuedo> (music)
01:59 < psuedo> (music is Gracias a la Vida from Violeta Parra)
02:06  * mexicatl will take over the translation now
02:07 < mexicatl> we are back and now give voice to the people of oaxaca
02:07 < mexicatl> --
02:08 < mexicatl> inviting to participate in the resistance
02:08 < mexicatl> and news of a roadblock
02:08 < mexicatl> until this murderer leaves
02:08 < mexicatl> a proposal to do a national strike
02:09 < mexicatl> for the APPO meeting tomorrow
02:09 < mexicatl> considering how the people of oaxaca have valiantly fought off the invading forces
02:09 < mexicatl> then the unions must ask workers to strike in solidarity
02:10 < mexicatl> to struggle until ruiz has step down
02:11 < mexicatl> giving out addresses to the radio stream
02:12 < mexicatl> we have a message, where the APPO distances itself from aggressions to media
02:13 < mexicatl> that have been committed by the paramilitaries under the orders of the governor
02:13 < mexicatl> calling for missing people: marin marta hernandez, missing
02:14 < mexicatl> *marvin
02:15 < mexicatl> we continue to receive more denouncements at the radio universidad
02:15 < mexicatl> demands the expulsion of ruiz from the state
02:15 < mexicatl> fox, with the pri and pan alliance is playing a dirty role in oaxaca
02:15 < mexicatl> we remind you we need the following materials:
02:16 < mexicatl> gloves, goggles, cans, masks, shirts, socks, wood, locks, and lime
02:17 < mexicatl> we have succeded in making the federal preventive police withdraw
02:17 < mexicatl> and people from around the world congratulate us
02:18 < mexicatl> we shall succeed in making something new, new organizations
02:18 < mexicatl> thanking families for the food and transports
02:19 < mexicatl> thanking the woman who brought a warm tea for the people so that they may keep on working
02:19 < mexicatl> and that even though a great victory was won, the war hasn't
02:20 < mexicatl> a report of a missing person manuel luis* martinez, his girlfriend is looking for him
02:20 < mexicatl> the song is dedicated to the People of Oaxaca who are an example to the world
02:21 < mexicatl> !musical break
02:25 < mexicatl> ---
02:26 < pwd> hi mexicatl ;-)
02:33 < mexicatl> !back
02:33 < mexicatl> 1. the federal preventive police has military and special forces and under orders to the military
02:34 < mexicatl> 2. the afi is also mixed into the pgr
02:34 < yuri> you mean.... we are fucked?
02:34 < yuri> :/
02:34 < yuri> ops
02:34 < yuri> sorry!
02:35 < mexicatl> calls for military bases to not be used in the oppression of people of oaxaca
02:35 < mexicatl> very relevant message giving us a better view of the situation
02:36 < mexicatl> now we know that the federal preventive police contains people under the armed forces
02:36 < mexicatl> --
02:36 < mexicatl> denunciation from a citizen
02:37 < mexicatl> thanking a particular neighborhood for their help
02:37 < mexicatl> a collection of 350 pesos
02:37 < mexicatl> it is our duty to protect our state
02:37 < mexicatl> talking to the pri-sympathizers: the people of oaxaca is free, but they are not
02:38 < mexicatl> that they kneel to the political powers
02:38 < mexicatl> and they are nothing but cannon fodder, since ulises ruiz ortiz killed his party
02:38 < mexicatl> he stole the election
02:39 < mexicatl> the events of today will not be doubted and it shall be the same until the usurper governor is gone and replaced by a good person for the people of oaxaca
02:40 < mexicatl> --
02:40 < mexicatl> more messages
02:40 < mexicatl> --
02:40 < mexicatl> a student says that a particular market, tonal?, there are many police forces, but can't tell what force it is
02:40 < mexicatl> --
02:41 < mexicatl> also makes people aware that there are silenced helicopters flying near the university
02:41 < mexicatl> --
02:41 < mexicatl> we also ask people to inform us on the quality of the signal around oaxaca
02:42 < mexicatl> since if they go off the air it will be because the government interfered
02:42 < mexicatl> reports that the a federal preventive police convoy is leaving the airport
02:42 < mexicatl> and that there's movement in the central plaza
02:43 < mexicatl> asks for people to keep an eye out if they live around there
02:43 < mexicatl> in regards to the loss of signal, it merely means that they silenced us to be able to attack the voice of the people of oaxaca
02:44 < mexicatl> then they should not wait for people to call out, but head to the campus organized and disciplined
02:44 < mexicatl> regardless of what happens, then people should not loose their calm
02:45 < mexicatl> reports that all of a sudden the signal quality is decreasing in quality
02:45 < mexicatl> so that it might precede police or paramilitary intervention
02:46 < mexicatl> but we have been expecting us and the people of oaxaca will not be give in to rapists and thugs, like they showed in atenco
02:46 < mexicatl> and we they already knew we would be beaten up, especially after today
02:47 < mexicatl> we must not be sad, and ready to fight
02:47 < mexicatl> we shall continue to report on the quality of the signal
02:48 < mexicatl> reports that the video of how the federal preventive police tried to enter the university campus is on the jornada website
02:48 < mexicatl> --
02:48 < mexicatl> call from california
02:48 < mexicatl> (unintelligible)
02:48 < mexicatl> we can't understand either
02:49 < mexicatl> hello from LA, in a march of 300-400 people in front of the consulate
02:49 < mexicatl> - we just fought off a struggle against the federal preventive police
02:50 < mexicatl> - we have succeeded in winning a battle
02:50 < mexicatl> how do people feel in oaxaca?
02:50 < mexicatl> - the people of oaxaca have fought valiantly in defending the commune of oaxaca
02:51 < mexicatl> - but we continue to be alert
02:51 < mexicatl> what is the situation of the teachers
02:51 < mexicatl> ?
02:51 < mexicatl> - they continue to struggle along side us
02:51 < mexicatl> - haven't gone back to classes
02:52 < mexicatl> - the different sections have confirmed it
02:52 < mexicatl> the people in LA are concerned by more reinforcements, what do know about it?
02:52 < mexicatl> - more reinforcements are coming in from puebla, but we shall be victorious
02:53 < mexicatl> did the federal preventive police capture minors?
02:53 < mexicatl> - yes, several children have been kidnapped, but are on the list of the missing
02:53 < mexicatl> - and worrying that they are taking it out against the children
02:54 < mexicatl> when will the list of missing will be done?
02:54 < mexicatl> - we call solidarity world wide
02:55 < mexicatl> here the community is disgusted by the actions of the government and expressed its solidarity with the people of oaxaca
02:56 < mexicatl> - we reiterate our call, as members of APPO to mobilize worldwide and for human rights organisms to overview these violations
02:56 < mexicatl> next saturday, the oaxacan community has called for a march
02:57 < mexicatl> not just oaxacans will march, but many others will also
02:57 < mexicatl> the musicians would like to play a song for the people of oaxaca
02:57 < mexicatl> (song from the march in LA over the phone)
02:58 < mexicatl> (a traditional song from oaxaca)
02:59 < mexicatl> --
02:59 < mexicatl> this song shall be dedicated to the people of oaxaca in their victory against the invaders of president fox
03:00 < mexicatl> (same song from LA)
03:00 < mexicatl> !musical break
03:02 < mexicatl> --
03:02 < mexicatl> reports of bad signal
03:03 < mexicatl> if the signal ever disappears, it means that the authorities are assaulting
03:03 < mexicatl> but we must not forget the barricades, all of them, to block the invading forces
03:04 < mexicatl> !musical break
03:06 < mexicatl> --
03:07 < mexicatl> change to frequency 11, the same that the federal preventive police is using
03:07 < mexicatl> people need to listen to this to hear what is being said
03:08 < mexicatl> they say there are few people at "radio universidad de oaxaca" which is not true, but more people are never bad
03:09 < mexicatl> the federal preventive police is going to the barricade of viguera
03:09  * mexicatl can someone take over?
03:10 < mexicatl> if the federal preventive police destroy the barricade, it doesn't matter since it can be rebuilt
03:10 < mexicatl> but now once again, to the music that will be happy
03:13 < mexicatl> !musical break
03:13 < mexicatl> !can anyone take over?
03:15 < mexicatl> reports from a judge that has been called to work, but will refuse
03:16 < mexicatl> a message "200 years after the birth of benito juarez" his spirit is reborn
03:16 < mexicatl> !is anyone even reading this?
03:17 < mexicatl> msg: people looking for their friends from puebla
03:18 < mexicatl> !IS ANYONE READING THIS?
03:18 < jolly> !sure
03:18 < jazz> mexicatl !sure but cant translate from spanish :(
03:18 < jebba> !ping  (and the archives...)
03:18 < mexicatl> !ok, good
03:18 < mexicatl> !just checking :)
03:18 < NorthStar> yes mexicatl
03:19 < mexicatl> please do not bring any more food because we have enough food for the night
03:19 < mexicatl> it isn't any necessary, so save it for tomorrow
03:20 < mexicatl> once again to set their radios to the frequency 11 to listen to the federal preventive police
03:20 < mexicatl> msg: someone saw a black and white vehicule, along with ... (unintelligible, someone killed)
03:21 < mexicatl> we might be surrounded, so please be ready
03:21 < soybeananarquista> im reading in aotearoa... thanks heaps for translating!
03:21 < mexicatl> to make noise when the signal drops
03:21 < mexicatl> we must all be alert, in spite of the victory today, even though we may be tired
03:23 < mexicatl> people must be ready to break through the encirclement
03:24 < mexicatl> next time they will be more aggressive, but we must not loose faith
03:24 < mexicatl> calls for the water tanks, which can be used to shower the federal preventive police
03:25 < mexicatl> the water cannons are at the central plaza recharging
03:25 < mexicatl> thanks to certain families and drivers for their support
03:26 < mexicatl> mentioning a particular neighborhood, that has a terrible mayor
03:26 < mexicatl> who have taken the side of the "radio universidad de oaxaca"
03:27 < mexicatl> can't compare the bipedal animals to other animals because it isn't fair
03:27 < mexicatl> call for an extraordinary meeting tomorrow
03:28 < mexicatl> a department of health meeting at 9 am in santo domingo
03:28 < mexicatl> the convocation is only for the department of health
03:29 < mexicatl> needed equipments: same as above, batteries AA, AAA, string and bags to fill with gasoline
03:29 < mexicatl> no need for the chain, it has been provided
03:30 < mexicatl> visitor in the studio
03:30 < mexicatl> !(in zapotec, can't translate, but makes me happy to hear)
03:33 < mexicatl> --
03:33 < mexicatl> spanish translation
03:33 < mexicatl> it is an invitation to all the people of certain regions
03:34 < mexicatl> to approach the barricades and help the APPO, because they are all people
03:34 < mexicatl> the land of benito juarez and the brothers magon
03:34 < mexicatl> !(more zapotec)
03:34  * luna go mexi
03:35 < mexicatl> !oh, not in spanish
03:35 < mexicatl> asking people unite with the APPO
03:35 < mexicatl> !(more zapotec)
03:36 < mexicatl> --
03:36 < mexicatl> ask for all people from my town to unite to the struggle and not sleep in their homes
03:36 < mexicatl> to defend their city
03:37 < mexicatl> --
03:37 < mexicatl> talking about the variety of oaxaca
03:37 < mexicatl> with so many indigenous communities
03:38 < mexicatl> tells them that the mikes are open to all
03:38 < mexicatl> --
03:39 < mexicatl> !music
03:40 < mexicatl> !will be back in 5 mins
03:46 < mexicatl> !back
03:46 < mexicatl> a citizen's denounciation
03:47 < mexicatl> vans have been seen with federal preventive police wearing armor at the gas station
03:47 < mexicatl> !(more zapotec)
03:48 < mexicatl> --
03:48 < mexicatl> for the zapotecs of the south
03:49 < mexicatl> inviting them all to support this great people in this great struggle
03:50 < mexicatl> they government doesn't care about the people, when they see they are wearing sandals
03:50 < mexicatl> they make them feel worse
03:50 < Marky-aCe> I have been listening all day and thank you for translating. Much appreciated.
03:51 < mexicatl> calling for the southern sierras to support them
03:51 < mexicatl> this is a critical step in the creation of the movement
03:52 < mexicatl> today we succeeded in fighting off the federal preventive police and the government
03:52 < mexicatl> we are showing that the organized people has more power than their neo-liberal ways
03:53 < mexicatl> in the defense of the commune of oaxaca
03:53 < mexicatl> the people of oaxaca is capable of everything
03:53 < mexicatl> --
03:54 < mexicatl> reports that there are clashes at the cinco señores for the past 15 minutes
03:54 < mexicatl> must be verified to know what to do
03:54 < mexicatl> people need to verify if there are clashes at the cinco señores, and see what it happening and who they are clashing with
03:55 < mexicatl> this information must be confirmed quickly for our listeners
03:55 < mexicatl> web addresses
03:56 < mexicatl> if this frequency starts sounding bad, then radio planton is rebroadcasting the signal
03:56 < mexicatl> telephone numbers
03:57 < mexicatl> recap of the events of the day
03:58 < mexicatl> asking yet again for ulises ruiz ortiz's resignation
03:58 < mexicatl> asks for confirmation on the events at cinco señores
03:59 < mexicatl> (music)
04:08 < mexicatl> !back
04:08 < mexicatl> we will now be replace by our collegues
04:09 < mexicatl> more missing people, detained between 1-2 at the clashes at the campus
04:09 < mexicatl> a pueblan is being detained at mihuatlan prison
04:09 < mexicatl> we will be replaced, we have problems speaking now
04:10 < mexicatl> thanks for the patience and shall try to come back tomorrow
04:10 < mexicatl> --
04:11 < mexicatl> today was a historic day, oaxaca is an example for the country and the world
04:11 < mexicatl> call for people all over the country as part of civil society to come to oaxaca
04:12 < mexicatl> to come before saturday, we need to pressure now
04:12 < mexicatl> the struggle was heroic today, fighting against 5000 people with sticks and stones
04:12 < mexicatl> but that can't be held for long
04:13 < mexicatl> as someone not from oaxaca, he calls for people to come to oaxaca
04:13 < mexicatl> oaxaca and the movement and what they demand is necessary for all
04:14 < mexicatl> is ulises ruiz ortiz doesn't quit it would be a loss for all
04:14 < mexicatl> to people from mexico city, they must speed up and come today, yesterday, at the barricades
04:14 < mexicatl> it is more than heroic, people are now tired now
04:15 < mexicatl> people must organize now, otherwise they shall go only to ask for the liberation of the detained
04:15 < mexicatl> and the civil society shall soon reply and support the people of oaxaca
04:16 < mexicatl> the destiny of the commune of oaxaca is a model for many other movements
04:16 < mexicatl> oaxaca is a test base to experiment on by the government
04:16 < mexicatl> we must be victorious
04:17 < mexicatl> so that the government can't find the weak points to quench any similar movements elsewhere in the government
04:17 < mexicatl> we need to learn, organize
04:18 < mexicatl> oaxaca is a laboratory, where the federal government is trying to stop the peaceful insurrection, especially after the day of fighting
04:18 < mexicatl> then people are tired
04:19 < mexicatl> they talk now to the people of the military and the federal preventive police:
04:19 < mexicatl> it is in your choice to follow the orders you disagree with
04:19 < mexicatl> look to see who is in front of you, children, elders, unarmed people
04:20 < mexicatl> i appeal to what is left of human in you, we have seen you eat
04:20 < mexicatl> we know you are also human
04:20 < mexicatl> is the little money worth it, to soil your hands with blood?
04:20 < mexicatl> where are you from? where did they bring you from? where is your family?
04:21 < mexicatl> the people of oaxaca do not want this government
04:21 < mexicatl> why can't the people pressure for the change of a governor?
04:21 < mexicatl> is the 7000 pesos worth the torture of your people?
04:22 < mexicatl> i hope you reflect well before you follow the order to shoot or attack
04:22 < mexicatl> it has been a heroic day
04:23 < mexicatl> we now change presenter with this song
04:23 < mexicatl> !music
04:26  * luna dale
04:33 < mexicatl> (back)
04:33 < mexicatl> it is 2244
04:33 < mexicatl> asking for information from the barricades
04:34 < mexicatl> it is difficult to stay awake at this time of the night
04:34 < mexicatl> --
04:34 < mexicatl> visitor from the UNAM
04:34 < mexicatl> this radio has kept us in the struggle
04:35 < mexicatl> we need to keep information going and keep a watch and sleep when necessary
04:35 < mexicatl> news: at the military base people are being held
04:35 < mexicatl> (lists of people)
04:36 < psuedo> 11 people
04:36 < mexicatl> if anyone knows were these people are, then call for information
04:37 < mexicatl> detained for thinking differently, in spite of our rights
04:37 < mexicatl> 1/5 of the country lives in misery
04:38 < mexicatl> we need: blankets, masks, woods, shirts, rags, vinegar, to prepare for any attack
04:39 < mexicatl> we prevented them from silencing us
04:40 < mexicatl> a song to raise our spirits
04:45 < mexicatl> --
04:45 < mexicatl> 2254
04:46 < psuedo> I will step in
04:46 < psuedo> (Im sorry I have plenty of noise)
04:47  * mexicatl back
04:48 < mexicatl> analisis on the lynching of the burning of two police
04:48 < mexicatl> the breaking of the social contract
04:48 < mexicatl> the social peace has been broken
04:48 < mexicatl> it has created a civil war in the city
04:49 < mexicatl> in the day of the dead, we now have the death of the peace
04:49 < mexicatl> the senate's commission is comes with hypocrasy
04:50 < mexicatl> the chinese say that the people has the government it deserves
04:50 < mexicatl> then we must change and rise up
04:50 < mexicatl> when the people see the police as the enemy something is wrong
04:51 < mexicatl> what happens in oaxaca will mark the social movements for the next six years
04:51 < mexicatl> when people see a police, they fear him
04:51 < mexicatl> --
04:51 < pseudo> 26 aarrested people
04:51 < pseudo> I will continue
04:52 < pseudo> We make a call to reinfoce the barricades
04:52 < pseudo> Plenty of groups have added to our stuggle
04:53 < pseudo> some music to raise the mood of our comrades at the barricades
04:55 < pseudo> (I am sorry, I am experiencing plenty of noise, I have reduced the high frecuencies of my tuner and now its harder to listen to womens voice) I will do my best
04:56 < pseudo> (Manu chao music Playing right now)
04:57 < pseudo> (Ska-p Music)
05:01 < pseudo> we are still here at radio universidad
05:02 < pseudo> hewe have been informed that a 11 year old boy, dressing a grey shirt with, blue pants and black tennis
05:03 < pseudo> we need help for the calicanto barricade
05:03 < pseudo> wtoday we have proven our descition to the goverment
05:03 < pseudo> we defended ourselves as we could, with rocks, sitck
05:04 < pseudo> I was there...
05:04 < pseudo> and the PFP was the first to attack
05:04 < pseudo> but our people is brave and decieded to defend our university
05:05 < pseudo> we invite our comrades to inform about what is really happening
05:05 < pseudo> in order to inform people
05:05 < pseudo> we need that you keep us informed
05:06 < pseudo> I want to send a nice greeting to all our comrades who fought thogether with us
05:08 < pseudo> People from volcanes please contact radio universidad
05:08 < pseudo> since they appear to be lost
05:08 < pseudo> I wont let any of our comrades in hands of the PFP
05:09 < pseudo> We demand the immediate release of our people
05:09 < pseudo> and we demand that they deliver all our arrested people with good health and alive
05:10 < pseudo> (Can anyone please step in? I have plenty of noise, its too hard to listen)
05:12 < pseudo> Today the chairman of the PFP said that the goal of the police operation was not to enter to the university
05:13  * luna one moment
05:15 < pseudo> Remember that Mr Abascal sweared on the name of god that the PFP was not going to invade oaxaca
05:15 < pseudo> he was lying
05:15 < pseudo> Stay alert to what may happen this night
05:17 < pseudo> We will keep fighting
05:17 < MM> find them, instead they you...
05:17 < pseudo> we need gogle, lamps, masks, bateries, clothes, socks, wood
05:18 < pseudo> locks
05:18 < pseudo> blankets
05:18 < pseudo> some music to keep awake
05:18 < pseudo> (Music)
05:23  * luna go?
05:24 < pseudo> (go please)
05:25 < luna> a while ago we reported 
05:25 < luna> that there was a child 
05:25 < luna> 2 years old 
05:25 < luna> missing
05:25 < luna> please it is with the colonos
05:25 < luna> and they dont know what to do with him
05:26 < luna> -
05:26 < luna> we are back in red alert
05:26 < luna> it is 2am now
05:26 < luna> and we dont have this confirmed
05:26 < luna> but the army is thinking about breaking in
05:26 < luna> with hellicopters
05:31  * luna ok we are listening to a different stream that has been set up by the indy techs that has a very heavy noise filter and is a lot clearer to listen to but there is a further delay between what is happening in oaxca an wht is being translated, ok?
05:32  * luna it is just a few seconds
05:35 < luna> -
05:36  * luna http://streaming.com.mx:8006/listen.pls
05:36 < luna> so we call for evryone to come down the university
05:36 < luna> and cover us
05:36 < luna> you know one day is not enough
05:37 < luna> what we need to do is defend our uni
05:37 < luna> with nails and teeth
05:37 < luna> as uni ppl we have to have a position
05:37 < luna> with the people
05:37 < luna> near the people
05:37 < luna> the our struggle 
05:37 < luna> means we have to be here with the people
05:39 < luna> >music
05:40  * luna Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 11:50:48 PM CST
05:44 < luna> so we are back in the studio
05:44 < luna> with a compa here 
05:44 < luna> who is going to give us an analisys
05:44 < luna> good night
05:44 < luna> why is CULO not steping down?
05:45 < luna> some say cuz he is in the hands of the rich
05:45 < luna> that the pan doesnt want him to leave
05:45 < luna> the international rejection grows
05:45 < luna> pan and ulises have an agreement
05:46 < luna> but these agreements never stand for long
05:46 < luna> in mexico
05:46 < luna> this is a pact of corruption
05:46 < luna> of organised crime
05:46 < luna> they all have proven links with mafia
05:46 < luna> an then they show themselves as politicians
05:47 < pseudo> Jean sucar kuri( the pederast) is related to gamboa patron (PRI)
05:47 < luna> lets remember than 75% of the whole country 
05:47 < luna> used to vote the PRI
05:47 < luna> was PRI
05:47 < luna> and so their tentacles reach far and wide
05:47 < luna> and everyone is afraid that if he goes, 
05:47 < luna> he talks
05:48 < luna> and starts to talk about 
05:48 < luna> all the links of each and every political party with the PRI
05:48 < luna> ask all of them 
05:48 < luna> from greenkids to PAN
05:48 < luna> all of them
05:48 < luna> lets hope thay die
05:48 < luna> --
05:48 < luna> --
05:48 < luna> its like this
05:49 < luna> politicians go from one party to the other
05:49 < luna> jumping along
05:49 < luna> with the mafia, with the drug dealers
05:49 < pseudo> politics are related to narcotraffic, religion, bussines
05:49 < luna> -
05:49 < luna> this is people with one mentality
05:49 < luna> and then thay call themselves reds, or of the left, or right
05:50 < luna> they call themselves of the left 
05:50 < luna> while with the right they take dirty  money
05:50 < luna> --
05:50 < luna> we have some really brave compas here
05:50 < luna> --
05:50 < luna> hi
05:50 < luna> good night 
05:50 < luna> s
05:50 < luna> we are 
05:50 < luna> from los rios
05:51 < luna> and we congratulate you for this great resisttance
05:51 < luna> and we wanna lt you know that you are not alont
05:51 < luna> alone
05:51 < luna> you know that this struggle is not easy
05:51 < luna> the end for the pri is near
05:51 < luna> and they dont like this struggle cuz they know
05:51 < luna> and it is important that we dont loose heart
05:52 < luna> their end is near
05:52 < pseudo> I will step in
05:53 < pseudo> We need to stay united
05:53 < pseudo> lets reinforce our university
05:53 < pseudo> this is our voice, lets not let them take our voice away
05:54 < pseudo> (music)
06:02 < pseudo> we are back
06:02 < pseudo> its november 3
06:02 < pseudo> a new
06:02 < pseudo> day
06:02 < pseudo> lets see what awake us
06:02 < pseudo> hopefully no more violence
06:02 < pseudo> I would like to talk a little bit about the role that the universities must play
06:03 < pseudo> we justify the defense of the entrance of the PFP
06:03 < pseudo> univeristies are the place where ideas come
06:03 < pseudo> there are no political reasons for taking our univeristy
06:04 < pseudo> nor for a radio that speaks freely
06:04 < pseudo> all our respect to our director
06:04 < pseudo> he may not agree with all our ideas, still he defended our univeristy
06:06 < pseudo> We make a call to all other universities (politecnico, UNAM, UAM ,UP,Universidad e la ciudad de mexico, universidad chapingo and all state universities from mexico)
06:06 < pseudo> to come to oaxaca and help us
06:06 < pseudo> we need more than your words
06:07 < pseudo> we need you to protect our campus
06:07 < pseudo> We need to establish good comunications
06:08 < pseudo> Universities are meant to produce knowledge
06:09 < pseudo> we invite people on the barricades to call us to report your situation
06:11 < pseudo> (some propaganda)
06:22 < pseudo> We are back at radio niversidad
06:23 < pseudo> we invite our barricades to call us to report their status
06:23 < pseudo> we demand the delivery of our arrested people alive
06:24 < pseudo> PFP will get tyired, we wont
06:25 < pseudo> televisa reports make me laugh
06:25 < pseudo> they are saying bullshit
06:26 < pseudo> our zocalo is empty now, people are afraid of PFP not afraid of us
06:27 < pseudo> rich people of oaxaca makes me laugh
06:27 < pseudo> Priistas are desesperate....
06:28 < pseudo> todays movement is their last resource
06:28 < pseudo> rich people ask for peace, and in the other hand they start war
06:31 < pseudo> the guy is telling a story about some PRIistas and rich people....
06:32 < pseudo> about their fake demonstration
06:34 < pseudo> (nothing relevant)
06:35 < pseudo> oaxaca has always been oppresed
06:35 < pseudo> we have always resisted
06:35 < pseudo> they never expect such a big reaction from us
06:36 < pseudo> most of the states in mexico are supporting our movement
06:36 < pseudo> mexico city is supporting too
06:36 < pseudo> we have also had international support
06:37 < pseudo> when have you Priistas had international support????
06:37 < pseudo> never, and you will never have it, becuase you are wrong
06:38 < pseudo> I think that Ulises is sick, he is sick for power, he makes us laugh
06:39 < pseudo> people that have showed their support from other countries has amazed our politicians
06:40 < pseudo> we invite all people in general to keep us informed
06:40 < pseudo> we are on a red alert situation
06:40 < pseudo> people from the barricades please report
06:40 < pseudo> we have eyes all around the city
06:41 < pseudo> please make brief reports
06:41 < pseudo> radio universidad is a open space, but at this moment we must be brief
06:41 < pseudo> (music)
06:43  * luna pseudo what stream are you listening to?
06:43 < pseudo> http://streaming.com.mx:8006/listen.pls
06:44 < pseudo> Would anyone please get me a pack of cigarrets????
06:44 < pseudo> Im joking
06:45 < pseudo> Sorry, i need to do some jokes to avoid going angry
06:49 < pseudo> we are back at radio universidad
06:49 < pseudo> we thank people that are making us a nice coffee
06:49  * luna i light a fag for you pseudo
06:50 < pseudo> and students that are taking care of our building
06:50 < pseudo> The parents of the baby havent reported
06:51 < pseudo> people that found the baby dont know what to do with him
06:52 < pseudo> greeting to radio zapote
06:52 < pseudo> in mexico city
06:53 < pseudo> greeting to all people that are listening to us
06:53 < pseudo> Our struggle today has been very demanding
06:53 < pseudo> but our comrades are still alert
06:54 < pseudo> poor policeman were dehydrating
06:55 < pseudo> while we were resisting, we made a human wall, and ther were some 100 PFPs, there was a commander and when he saw us he ran away
06:55 < pseudo> thanks for all the people who put water out of their homes for us to wash ourselves
06:56 < pseudo> since the water that the water tanks threw was not only water, it was mixed with some acid
06:56 < pseudo> We have another comrade missing, hes 33 years old, he disapeared at 12:00
06:56 < pseudo> jorge luis sanchez is the name
06:57 < pseudo> we shall make a complete list of all our missing people to make a demmand to get them back
06:58 < pseudo> we have another people missing
06:58 < pseudo> if you are hiding somewhere, please call home or call radio universidad
06:58 < pseudo> Marcos garcia martinez has already appeared
06:59 < pseudo> all missing people please call home
07:00 < pseudo> and call us so we can make a precise counting of our missing people
07:01 < pseudo> again, we need more people to take care of our university
07:01 < pseudo> we need to be aware...
07:02 < pseudo> you may also ask for a song, you can call us
07:02 < pseudo> people in the neighborhoods... reinforce your barricades
07:02 < pseudo> Unfortunately on the tv nes, they only show wounded policeman
07:02 < pseudo> they didnt show our wounded people
07:03 < pseudo> some wounded policeman were glad to get injured...
07:03 < pseudo> they are now going home
07:03 < pseudo> they wont have to attack people anymore
07:04 < pseudo> (music)
07:15 < pseudo> 5110844 is the phone in our cabin
07:15 < pseudo> to make your reports
07:15 < pseudo> I am going to read a text
07:15 < pseudo> ...
07:20 < pseudo> Education is what moves us forward....
07:21 < pseudo> and Pri wants us not educated
07:21 < pseudo> another missing person was fouend, fernando ruiz
07:21 < pseudo> he is now helping us protect radio universidad
07:22 < pseudo> its nice that we found or comrade
07:22 < pseudo> greeting to the teachers from the university who support APPO
07:23 < pseudo> more music
07:24 < pseudo> dedicated to all our fighting comrades
07:24 < pseudo> (MUSIC)
07:33 < pseudo> its 1:42 am
07:33 < pseudo> we are sleepy
07:33 < pseudo> we invite all people to call us an report your sitiation, give your opinion
07:34 < pseudo> we have to make it hard for the PFP
07:34 < pseudo> lets set barricades
07:34 < pseudo> the zocalo belongs to the people
07:35 < pseudo> a big hug to the family of our deceased
07:36 < pseudo> we need more people here at the university
07:37 < pseudo> people that rescued the baby from the PFP need to contact the parents
07:38 < pseudo> a two year old baby was taken by the PFP
07:38 < pseudo> they have no hearts
07:38 < pseudo> big rejection to you
07:39 < pseudo> unfortunately before our great fight at our university
07:39 < pseudo> we wer shot by gunfires
07:39 < pseudo> big gun fires
07:39 < pseudo> riffles
07:39 < pseudo> fortunately they didnt kill anyone
07:40 < pseudo> Once again the goverment shows his power against the students
07:40 < pseudo> gun shots right now from priistas at panoramica del fortin
07:41 < pseudo> lets try to record the facts
07:41 < pseudo> We have a calling....
07:42 < pseudo> im mr jose chavez fron distrito fedraal
07:42 < pseudo> we support you
07:42 < pseudo> we believe that the pople from oaxaca is right
07:43 < pseudo> (some communication problems)
07:43 < pseudo> we think that Mr URO must quit
07:43 < pseudo> must quit killing people
07:43 < pseudo> We ask Vicente fox not to put blood on his hands
07:44 < pseudo> please go to fortin...
07:44 < pseudo> bring your cameras
07:44 < pseudo> lets take pictures
07:45 < pseudo> to this damn priistas
07:45 < pseudo> Another call....
07:46 < pseudo> Tomorrow will take place the assambly
07:46 < pseudo> we have to make decitions
07:46 < pseudo> we have now realized about the real intentions of the goverment
07:47 < pseudo> tomorrow we will make the most important decition
07:47 < pseudo> we invite all teachers to come to the assambly
07:48 < pseudo> we shall decide what to do
07:48 < pseudo> Vicente fox s and felipe calderon goverment is al based on lies
07:48 < pseudo> we condem what happened today
07:49 < pseudo> we may have believed in the new goverment
07:49 < pseudo> but they have showed that they cant be trusted
07:49 < pseudo> we deserv another reality
07:50 < pseudo> this goverment worths no dignity
07:50 < pseudo> fucking traitors
07:51 < pseudo> we ask agian people to como take care of our university building
07:51 < pseudo> Another Calling....
07:52 < pseudo> (cant translate, too bad audio)
07:54 < pseudo> (would someone plese step in?)
07:54 < pseudo> some more music
07:54 < pseudo> we are all tyired
07:54 < pseudo> we need music to avoid falling asleep
07:54 < pseudo> (MUSIC)
07:58 < pseudo> (People I am very tired, would someone please step in)
08:01 < pseudo> (Do you want me to contine to trnslate?)
08:10 < pseudo> (I will go have some sleep)
08:15  * luna is away: ido
08:19  * luna is back (gone 00:03:58)
08:24  * luna is away: ido
08:24  * luna is back (gone 00:00:18)
09:18 < SadeClown> People in the States need to wake up.
09:18 < SadeClown> Council on Human Rights should not be presided over by Mexico.
12:48 < XaViER> can someone translate?
12:57 < kev> pra militare
12:58 < kev> df
12:58 < kev> hold on
12:58 < kev> 6:15 shoots are fired a Radio Universidad of oaxaca from a van with polarized windows
12:58 < kev> shoots are fired at Radio Universidad of Oaxaca from a van with plarized windows
12:59 < kev> no injuries
13:01 < XaViER> thanks kev, we are in need of info
13:01 < kev> no problem
13:08 < lupa> está caida la radio?
13:09 < kev> no creo
13:09 < kev> solo suena muy mal
13:15 < ruche> hola
13:16 < ruche> ¿se ha cortado la transmision desde oaxaca?
13:16  * pwd is away: a+
13:21 < ruche> gente!!
13:21 < ruche> se puede hacer algo para solucuionar la transmision ??
14:15 < [celia]> is the radio appo working?
14:15 < skep> nope
14:15 < [celia]> :/
14:15 < skep> (the streams do not work..don't know about the radio itself)
14:16 < Marky-aCe> I can not get any of them to work very strange
14:16 < mexicatl> they're taking a break, too tired from yesterday
14:16 < Marky-aCe> hope so
14:16 < Marky-aCe> thx
14:16 < mexicatl> i called and asked, we were worried too :)
14:16 < [celia]> i hope too
14:17 < Marky-aCe> its just that the other stream are not working from the internet
14:17 < jolly> Radio Ke Huelga: http://stream.r23.cc:2323/kehuelga.mp3.m3u
14:17 < [celia]> does anybody knows if the pfp is in radio?
14:17 < Marky-aCe> thx everyone must go and do some work. SeeYa
14:49 <@ruche> la radio está desconectada por un rato para que descansen los equipos
14:58 < brie> The radio is down for now so that the equiptment can rest
15:00 < brie> sorry, so that the teams can rest
15:02 <@ruche> the teams?
15:02 <@ruche> i understood that the equipment was resting
15:03 <@malegria> could be both
15:04 < zureich> hallo
15:05 < brie> I got confused on the double meaning of equipos
15:05 < brie> but, I'm sure it's both regardless
15:06 < zureich> i try http://radio.indymedia.org:8000/appo.mp3.m3u: only disturbance
15:06 <@ruche> The radio is down for now so that the equiptment can rest
15:06 <@CntrlAltDel> *shit*
15:06 <@CntrlAltDel> that ban... was a failure 
15:06 <@ruche> i thunk
15:12 <@brie> mexicatl - you did an amazing job translating last night
15:12 <@brie> thanks
15:13  * zapATIsta is very thankful for pseudo's help as well!
15:13 <@brie> and luna
15:31 <@gdm> roundup now of the events of 'day of the dead' in oaxaca
15:31 <@zapATIsta> yes luna. Thanks!!!
15:47 <@assata> ei
15:47 <@assata> algum pode checar pq a imagem nao sobe?
16:09 < AltDel> the stream is working again :D
16:10 <@XaViER> :-) can someone translate again?
16:11 < AltDel> my spanish is too bad :( ...
16:13 <@brie> at 12 there will be a popular assembly, please come
16:15 <@brie> There were bullets that were fired at the walls outside the radio, but no one was shot
16:15 <@brie> we need the presence of the people of Oxaca in the barricades
16:17 <@brie> its very important that all of you that can come to the march to day against the murderers of our companeros and to ask for the liberty of our people 
16:17 <@brie> thereis a mobilization to pressure the corrput government
16:18 <@brie> the dissapreared folks from yesterday that haven't called home, 5 or 6 people, we still haven't had contact with them
16:18 <@brie> yesterday was a victory for our movement and we are very proud -  the people are very brave
16:19 <@brie> Radio Universitaria - the Radio of the Truth
16:19 <@brie> \
16:20 <@brie> *if anyone can help translate that would be great - I can't type that fast*
16:21 <@brie> (musical break) 
16:22 <@brie> hello and welcome back
16:23 <@brie> there is an assembly to day at noon
16:23 <@brie> *I can't hear it very well - anyone know of another feed???*
16:24 <@brie> Woman children men, old people , everyone, whatever your capacity please come out and support
16:24 <@brie> we're happy to be back in communication with you, dear people
16:25 <@brie> The radio and university if of the people and for the people'
16:26 <@brie> Here there are children that are dying of hunger, people don't know how they can live, how thery can eat. Children that are forced to go to the US to work and are exploited
16:26 <@brie> this is how it is - for this reason we need to go into the streets and fight for economic and labor rights
16:27 <@brie> We know that the future "president elect" is going to be giving even more repression
16:27 <@brie> Anther dissapeared person, a woman
16:27 <@brie> Amanda Pina Martintez
16:27 <@brie> we are asking for your cooperation in finding a 45 year old professor
16:28 <@brie> short, chubby, with dark hari
16:28 <@brie> Gerardo Jimenez Vasquez
16:28 <@brie> Marco Antnio - another dissapeared person
16:29 <@brie> If you are one of these people or know where they are, please contact your families and let us know that you are safe
16:29 <@brie> It's important  to delever specific imformation when reproting dissapear people - age, name, scars, hari color, etc
16:30 <@brie> These dissapearances are a violation of human rights
16:30 <@brie> There were 4 soliders who brutally beat a young man who was coming to support the fight - he was in the mobilization and he was brutally beaten. We don't know his name.
16:31 <@brie> He was taken away - if you know who this person is, please call the radio - give is name and charactieristics
16:31 <@brie> The PFP is picking off suspicious looking people
16:32 <@brie> Be careful walking in groups of more than 2 or 3 because PFP are coming in trucks and picking people up - it's dangerous, be careful
16:33 <@brie> If you come in big groups- be careful - remember that these people (the PFP) are professionals 
16:34 <@brie> Here in the radio we have the help of the International Human Rights Leaugue - you can call here to talk to them if you need hepl. If you have someone that is dissappeared or detained, they can help
16:34 <@brie> Thank you for having us here and giving us the space to speak - what we want is that the people of Oaxaca 
16:35 <@brie> are able to have control of their governmant
16:35 <@brie> the are tired of being lied to, expoited
16:36 <@brie> Ruiz has to account for millions of pesos that he has spent in the past 2 years
16:36 <@brie> it's not only Oaxaca that's hungry - the entire country has been ransacked for years
16:36 <@brie> People are looking for work and there are no resources
16:37 <@brie> The people are fed up that the government has liscence to kill, to lie
16:37 <@brie> We want the education   of 300,000 children
16:37 <@brie> why can't they provide classed, education>
16:37 <@brie> because this is not their priority
16:38 <@brie> Lastly, citizens of the oaxaca nd the world, cause this going all over the owrld - this the hour
16:40 <@brie> This is not the time to abandon our brothers and sisters 
16:40 <@brie> and wants his people to live with dignity in this world
16:40 <@brie> This fight is not only of Oxaca, because Oaxaca is not the only place that is hungry
16:40 <@brie> This is a pacific fight - the people are seeking justice and god is with us
16:40 <@brie> we are creating the true history of oaxaca
16:40 <@brie> we have a god that wants and looks for justice
16:41 <@brie> Thank you to the university and to the young people who are setting an excellent, brave example
16:41 <@brie> Ruiz- get out of Oxaca
16:41 <@brie> If you know of people that have been dissapeared or detained by the PFP, please call
16:42 <@brie> Thank to the companera for her commentaries
16:42 <@brie> We want to say hello to all the people there in Oaxaca who have been fighting and are our inspiraction
16:43 <@brie> Here is a companero from Vancouver, Canada
16:43 <@brie> PFP get out!!
16:43 <@brie> We want to wish you good luck in the actions you are doing - the power of the people is stronger than the lies that they spread
16:45 <@brie> We are doing actions as well - there was one yesterday and today at the Mexican consulate
16:45 <@brie> There was a shootout around 6 this morning
16:45 <@brie> (in Oaxaca)
16:45 <@brie> This radio is the true heart of the resistance in Oaxaca - we support you!
16:46 <@brie> All of our hearts are with you
16:46 <@brie> ***I can't hear very well - the signal is beaking up - does any one have another feed they know of??**
16:47 <@brie> Thank you for communicating with us from vancouver, we'll be in touch
16:48 <@brie> When *a lot os being missed here - he is talking about making masks to protect against the gas, and is being funny, giving "gossip"*
16:49 <@zapATIsta> ***brie are ytou listening through? http://radio.indymedia.org:8000/appo.mp3.m3u  ?  ***
16:50 <@brie> People that were hurt yesterday, we got them cured up and they went back into the streets to confront the police 
16:51 <@brie> thank you and I'll be back in a bit with more jokes
16:51 <@brie> Thanks companero for making us laugh, because our laughter is another way to fight the PFP
16:51 <@brie> We're checking the signal to see if things are coming though
16:53 <@brie> Yesterday when the battle with the PFP ended, there was alot of food that was brought to our companeros
16:53 <@brie> that is wonderful - people brought food, wood, stones
16:54 <@brie> we have reserves now - thank you for bringing supplies to the resistance
16:54 <@brie> also, we can forget that the struggle is against the horrible government, against Ruiz
16:55 <@brie> we need to make the PFP understand that they are also victims of bad governent and of dictatorship - we are all affected
16:55 <@brie> In 40 minutes we are asking that people who have family members missing listen to the list of dissapeared folks 
16:56 <@brie> that they listen and let us know if people have been found
16:56 <@brie> Please everyone - do NOT pass on information that is not confirmed
16:57 <@brie> all of the people that are in the barricades - be VERY cafreful of infiltrators
16:57 <@brie> those that are they know who they are
16:57 <@brie> we will avoid acts of vandalism 
16:57 <@brie> please control people who are provocing thing
16:57 <@brie> do not loot any business
16:57 <@brie> we need to keep things calm
16:58 <@brie> the death squads in the neightborhood are more dangerous in this moment than the PFP
16:58 <@brie> We urge you to, where ever you are and can hear us, please act with much responsibility
16:59 <@brie> we are going to take care of our companeros, our business, our streets
16:59 <@brie> BE very cafeful of the death squads
16:59 <@brie> we are soon going to be giving the names of the first people that have been freed
16:59 <@brie> *names of people that have been dissapears - all between 18-22 years old, all students*
17:00 <@brie> If you can hear this all, of you please communicate with your families or call here
17:00 <@brie> Everyone that can take videos, recordings etc. please do so - it;s very important
17:01 <@brie> we have an announcement:
17:01 <@brie> watch out for people that are coming in trucks they are unmarked and of many different colors and models - they are picking people up
17:01 <@brie> the people inside are dressed in black
17:02 <@brie> This is a person that is calling from the US(?)
17:02 <@brie> All of humanity sulutes those that are fighting for freedom - your names are writing the true hustory of our people
17:03 <@brie> There are men and woman, the teachers, that are fighting to plant the seeds of a new society 
17:03 <@brie> One day humanity will understand
17:04 <@brie> we know that all of the good in the world, everyting we respect and hold dear, has been brought to us by our teachers
17:04 <@brie> they have always moved forward and cleared the paths for us
17:04 <@brie> what can I do as a young girl? I can't allow this injustice to pass and I will fight
17:05 <@brie> I am certain that we will not forget this fight and that we will arrive with the white dove of peace
17:05 <@brie> Thank you for your words companera
17:05 <@brie> We going to have a short musical break
17:05 <@brie> and we'll be right back
17:06 <@brie> *Public service announcement for the radio*
17:06 <@brie> (musical break)
17:07 <@brie>    ---- is anyone else able to step uo and translate? I can do it for another 20 mins or so-------
17:12 <@brie> hello, we are back
17:12 <@brie> At 11 in the morning, it's important to go to the march to unite the people of Oxaca
17:13 <@brie> If you can help us with materials, please do
17:13 <@brie> Please remember to be care of provocators, they may be priista
17:13 <@brie> we invite you o the march at 11am and to the assemby at 12
17:14 <@brie> everyone that is interested, 12 in Jaurez
17:14 <@brie> Acitizen is here to speak
17:14 <@brie> Good morning everyone
17:14 <@brie> yesterday was a difficult day, but a big experience 
17:15 <@brie> I want to tell you that the sturggle isn't easy, but luckily
17:15 <@brie> the majority of our oaxacan people has foud conciousness
17:15 <@brie> I ask - who are the Priistas?
17:15 <@brie> Those that recieve a pension?
17:16 <@brie> We shouldn't call these poor people Priistas - they are people that have not yet found conciousness - we should better call them animals that go behind the Priistas
17:17 <@brie> These people are not Priistas - the reality is that, these people with ambitions, with dreams of power and fascits attitudes, they will end with these ideals
17:17 <@brie> they will not understand that they have contributed to the disgrace of their people
17:18 <@brie> but today, thanks to this movement, people have found consciousness - for this reason
17:18 <@brie> I ask that the people who think that they want to be Priistas - to reflect a little bit
17:18 <@brie> to the victory of the people
17:18 <@brie> that they be with the people, their people
17:19 <@brie> After many injuries and struggles, the people of qaxaca are glorious
17:19 <@brie> we are learn how to political in Oaxaca
17:19 <@brie> they are teaching us the reality of our national - not only Oaxaca bu the entire country
17:19 <@brie> All of our resources are going into the pockets of the powerful
17:20 <@brie> we heard from Ruiz mouth that 7 million pesos were lost
17:20 <@brie> and where did it go? to the pockets of these people
17:20 <@brie> But now we are organizing
17:21 <@brie> Although, some of you are still half asleep - open your godamn eyes
17:21 <@brie> Citizens - I invite you to reflect, to struggle, and to come to the barricades
17:21 <@brie> Why? because in the place where we didn't have barricades, this is where the forces of corruption entered
17:22 <@brie> I want to say hello to the people taht are out there, supporting this struggle, out there in the barricades, in the marches - you all have been with us
17:22 <@brie> We will shout out in the air taht we have won
17:23 <@brie> We will start new projects for work that will benefit everyone
17:23 <@brie> You all know that truly, this is what we want to do
17:23 <@brie> We will reconstruct what they have destroyed
17:24 <@brie> this isn't is the job that we want, but as consious people, this is what we have to do to
17:24 <@brie> So, I invite the people in neighboring places to join our stuggle
17:24  * luna yo brie- go go go go :)
17:25 <@brie> Professors that are at home, those with out jobs, all of those that are at home resting
17:25 <@brie> waiting for us to win
17:25 <@brie> come into this fight!
17:25 <@brie> we have to win all together
17:25 <@brie> also I want to say to the people with jobs
17:26 <@brie> those that are in oaxaca they know very well what the situacion is
17:26 <@brie> many of them are also poor that have recived government salaries
17:26 <@brie> these shit wages don't reach what they need to to pay for everything you need
17:27 <@brie> the government wants theese people to be quiet, to not have time to speak up
17:27 <@brie> speak up! React!
17:27 <@brie> The laws are not made for us - the laws are made for those in power - reflect please - how many are 
17:27 <@brie> swimming in ignorance and poverty??
17:28 <@brie> There is a huge ignorance about what is happening in Oaxaca, it is everyone
17:28 <@brie> so, one more time, please reflect
17:28 <@brie> step up - 
17:28 <@brie> we are exploited
17:29 <@brie> we need to understand taht it's in the air, the sun, the cold
17:29 <@brie> when these people are there in their nice hotels with good foos
17:29 <@brie> food
17:29 <@brie> Enough of this - enough of the governor filling thier purses on our backs
17:29 <@brie> As long as there is misery, there will be protests
17:30 <@brie> Reflect please - on our force as a people
17:30 <@brie> what kind of sadness do we live in when fathers have to leave their houses because of bombs going off?
17:31 <@brie> take advantage of this to denounce this to the commission on human rights
17:31 <@brie> because cameras didn't capture everything
17:31 <@brie> they don't care if they kill kids, whoever
17:31 <@brie> so, I yell out - any person who has any problem, we've seen some we can't fix, tell it directly to the government
17:32 <@brie> what can we hope for from these government people??
17:32 <@brie> we have to look to the power that we have in our hands
17:32 <@brie> Today Oaxaca has stood up to fight the oppressor!
17:32 <@brie> Reflect please, join this struggle
17:32 <@brie> thank you for letting he express this - good luck
17:33 <@brie> Thank you for your words - hopefull many people have heard this messege
17:33 <@brie> ***luna, can you take a turn?**
17:34 <@brie> There are 5 men who are thought to be Priistas in the barricades and are provoking things - if you see them, please report it
17:35 <@brie> If you know of people that have been dissapeared or who have been freed, please call the radiop
17:35 <@brie> *list of names of dissapeared people*
17:35 <@brie> If the priest from the chruch here can here us, please report
17:36 <@brie> Good after noon - I want to say to the teachers and to those who have been supporting this struggle - please listen for a minute
17:36 <@brie> Many teachers have been working for the past week  - I don;t know if they are afraid??
17:37 <@brie> I urge these teachers to not to the dirty side of the governemtn
17:37 <@brie> 2nd thing - get out to the protests
17:37 <@brie> they have been many people who have bravely fought
17:38 <@brie> those that are sitting at home on their couches - have some conciousness and a little shame for not doing anything
17:38 <@brie> These people that are fighting are teachers that really know that meaning of dignity
17:38 <@brie> 3rd thing
17:39 <@brie> I oblige those that started this fight to finish it, and with dignity
17:39 <@brie> I want to reflect with the teachers
17:40 <@brie> it a consequence od the stupid decions of the government that we are in this situations
17:40 <@brie> but there is alot of support, inlcuding international support
17:40 <@brie> Ruiz- we renounce you
17:41 <@brie> Ruiz is being shown to already be a dead man
17:42 <@brie> Now more than ever, we need to react to these leaders who have sold us out
17:42 <@brie> * need to step back - can someone step up please?**
18:18 <@stacy> any agression against oaxaca is agression against all mexico
18:18 <@stacy> there is a hunger strike in DF
18:19 <@stacy> there is a march starting in oaxaca
18:19 <@stacy> look out for agent provocateurs
18:21 <@stacy> there will also be a meeting of representatives from the barricades and colonias
18:21 <@stacy> we need to have agreement on the agenda to be strong and united
18:22 <@stacy> music and then we will talk about the events of today and yesterday
18:24 <@stacy> boompa boompa boompa...
18:30 <@stacy> i't
18:30 <@stacy> s important to go to the march
18:31 <@stacy> to represent the disappeared and the dead
18:31 <@stacy> it will be a peaceful protest
18:31 <@stacy> there are international people there
18:32 <@stacy> a message to the international press
18:32 <@stacy> respect the stories the people tell you
18:39 <@stacy> we don't have a music or theatre school in our state
18:39 <@stacy> who will be the artists to represent mexican culture?
18:41 <@stacy> since the 30th we've been living in the radio station with blankets
18:41 <@stacy> because the police won't give up
18:43 <@stacy> we call on all of the students to gather and demand a school
18:43 <@stacy> for the arts
18:44 <@stacy> there are caravans in support coming from DF tomorrow morning
18:45 <@stacy> the phone line is open
18:45 <@stacy> thanks for the support of the pueblo
18:48 <@stacy> 'i think she said that URO is going to change his education minister, but i could be wrong about the title
18:50 <@stacy> 70-80% of the state are indigenous people
18:52 <@stacy> ' a woman talking about how the PRI military threatened her
18:53 <@stacy> ' before she didn't agree, but now she supports the movement
18:54 <@stacy> it was always the pri, but now we need a change
18:54 <@stacy> 'thanks the woman
18:55 <@stacy> list of the disapeared
18:55 <@stacy> 22 people
18:56 <@stacy> ' sorry... its a list of prisoners
18:57 <@stacy> we demand their immediate liberation
18:58 <@stacy> if you know of disapeared people, bring us a recent photo
18:58 <@stacy> give us the details of their clothes, weight, everything
18:58 <@stacy> it is important to have this information
18:59 <@stacy> a caller
18:59 <@stacy> i'm with radio 'predia'
18:59 <@stacy> we want peace
18:59 <@stacy> but they're shoting at us
19:00 <@stacy> the pri is our enemy
19:00 <@stacy> but it is also our relatives
19:00 <@stacy> how can there be peace?
19:01 <@stacy> we are going to remove these insect in power
19:01 <@stacy> for 70? 76? years
19:01 <@stacy> we want them gone
19:01 <@stacy> we want peace
19:01 <@stacy> we will unite for everyone
19:01 <@stacy> ' he's ranting a bit now
19:03 <@stacy> ' he hung up
19:03 <@stacy> we will not allow Calderon as our president
19:03 <@stacy> music
19:08 <@stacy> 'the PFP have bought up all of something... i don't know what
19:08 <@stacy> if anyone knows why, please call
19:08 <@stacy> ' "canicas"
19:09 <@stacy> ' "marbles"
19:11 <@stacy> ' **I have to go now... anybody else want to take over?  Sweeper?**
19:22 < brie> we have to ask people to please be breif b/c we don't have much signla
19:22 < brie> please, please come to radio, people of oaxaca, we have to organize ourselves
19:22 < brie> even though we don't have much of a signal, we're goingto keep going
19:23 < brie> if you are in an area that we haven't heard from, please call in
19:23 < brie> in one of the zones they are no longer recieving our signal
19:23 < brie> we should know that our signal might be lost
19:24 < brie> we are not going to let the PFP take one step closer 
19:24 < brie> we please come! we need to organize ourselves, calmly and with disciple
19:24 < brie> we are winning - we need to continue to demonstrate unity and solidarity
19:25 < brie> wherever you are - we need to creat a phone chain to report news to places that are no longer recieving the signal - call them to come her eto the radio
19:25 < brie> as fast as they can
19:25 < brie> but be careful -
19:25 < brie> don't run, be calm
19:25 < brie> people are still being detained
19:25 < brie> careful, careful - we're going to get there
19:26 < brie> we ask that Perdo Servantes Dios - your mom can find you here in the radio
19:26 < brie> The studients from the Centro and artists - that they renunciate the enterance of the PFP
19:27 < brie> we are asking for companeros that have technical experience
19:27 < brie> we needa  "mededor de campo" of A M
19:27 < brie> as quickly as possible
19:27 < brie> people wth technical electrncic skills - please
19:28 < brie> Here are some compas from Toronto Canada
19:28 < brie> We just came back from a n action here at the Mexican Consulate
19:28 < brie> for our part here - our love, energy and luck to you all
19:28 < brie> thank you for your support
19:28 < brie> We'll be here at the radio until Ruix falls
19:29 < brie> We need to know if the 5 Men are still recieving the signal
19:29 <@yuri> 5 Senhores
19:29 < brie> this is our sounds of alarm:  ring the bells, bang the pots
19:29 < brie> for those that are online ---
19:30 < brie> it's urgent that you alart your neighbors
19:30 < brie> it is urgent!
19:30 < brie> we come back with a call -
19:30 < brie> the people that are hearing this on the internet
19:30 < brie> We need a "mededor de campo" de A M
19:31 < brie> we need this please, from those with technical skills
19:31 < brie> this voice (our radio) is alive - we will not be quiet 
19:31 < brie> before there wasn't radio or telephones
19:32 < brie> but now companeros, we have it - but we need to make phone chains (trees) to alert our neighbors that might not have signal - this is urgent!
19:32 < brie> now, we are having a musical break, but we will return
19:32 < brie> (Musical break)
19:34 < Radio_Lablanqueadafm> hola soy Aldux de la blanqueada Fm de Montevideo
19:34 < Radio_Lablanqueadafm> ustedes están transmitiendo en Fm
19:34 < Radio_Lablanqueadafm> Streaming de Web
19:34 < Radio_Lablanqueadafm> Me pregunta gente que no tienen internet
19:35 < Radio_Lablanqueadafm> si están transmitiendo en Onda Corta
19:35 < Radio_Lablanqueadafm> en alguna Banda
19:35 < brie> this is for transation only- please use the  general indymedia room for chat
19:35 <@salaud> Radio_Lablanqueadafm: este canal es solo por el traducion
19:36 < Radio_Lablanqueadafm> ah
19:36 < Radio_Lablanqueadafm> cual es el canal de la radio
19:36 < brie> por favor k usas el cuarto indymedia general para plactear
19:36 <@salaud> ... #radio
19:36 < Radio_Lablanqueadafm> para contactarse entre radios sin ser ·radio
19:38 < Radio_Lablanqueadafm> gracias y chau
19:44 < brie> Mededor de campo = AM transmitter
19:51 < brie> This song is Amanda by Victor Jara
19:54 < brie> Advertisement for Radio Universidad
19:57 < brie> Citizens of Oxaca and those that are listening 
19:57 < brie> please, it's urgent
19:58 < brie> this is a message for technical people 
19:58 < brie> We desperately need you to find us an AM transmitter
19:58 < brie> please, all of you that are listening, we need to create a phone change to keep in contact with family members, co workers, etc, to ask them to here to the radio
19:58 < brie> we are going to be here contunially recieving message
19:59 < brie> this fight is in each one of our hands - we all have to do everything we can
19:59 < brie> right now, we need to call our friends, family, etc. and ask them to come here to the radio
19:59 < brie> also, be as loud as possible - with your voices, pans, whatever in the street
19:59 < brie> let people know they need to come out
20:00 < brie> Were going to keep going with music because it seems that our signal is better when we have music
20:00 < brie> but we need everyone's help and support
20:00 < brie> (cut signal - no sound at all)
20:01 < brie> do other people hear anything????
20:02 < brie> *I'm not hearing any sound)
20:02 <@jebba> ! brie upstream appears down
20:54 < mommy> brie????
20:56 < rUUd> radio is down?
20:56 < brie>  - antena is being fixed - has been tampered with-
20:56 < rUUd> ok
20:57 < mommy> aha....I'm  going toswithc I'puters...givemeafew
20:57 <@jebba> brie, where are you getting this info? 
20:57 < brie> only from the general indymedia room
20:58 <@niko> the antena needs some chili ;-)
20:58 <@stacy> folks, can we not chat in here please?  Go to #indymedia for commentary
20:58 <@jebba> ! me doesn't see this in #indymedia, but oh well....
20:59 <@niko> stacy: this is not commentary.. we are trying to figure out what is going on... bye now
21:00 <@niko> stacy: and please post verified tech updates (antena stuff, etc) in #radio
22:31 < NorthStar> # radio appo is finally back
22:33 <@toya> 24 companheiros arrested on teh 31th
22:33 <@toya> will probably be release today or tomorrow
22:34 <@toya> they are giving the names of the ppl is detainned
22:34 <@toya> all the days - that they know till now
22:50 <@gaba> (music)
22:55 <@gaba> we invite you to continue movilizasing in the barrikades. here is a companiero from the universidty. he is inviting us to something.
22:55 <@gaba> "good afternoon. i want to invite you for the next november 5th to be at 10am in the monument juarez because from there we will be marching"
22:55 <@gaba> because the appo had decide to do this march and we are part of that then we invite you all to participate in this march
22:56 <@gaba> November 5th at 10PM in the Monument Juarez
22:56 <@gaba> the students of university repudiate the use of violance and we dont think is the way to resolve this conflict
22:56 <@gaba> we will defend all the possible the university autonomy
22:56 <@gaba> with discussion and talk
22:56 <@gaba> is a lie from the secretary that they are not trying to disturb our autonomy
22:57 <@gaba> the pfp was trying to go in through their vehicles in the university
22:57 <@gaba> they were throughing in tear gas in the university
22:57 <@gaba> it is weird that the media did not show how the pfp through the helicopter was arrivent
22:57 <@gaba> (the transmission stopped)
22:58 <@gaba> (it continues)
22:59 <@gaba> ...
22:59 <@gaba> we are calling everybody to march on november 5th at 10am
22:59 <@gaba> to kick out ulises...
22:59 <@gaba> for oaxaca to come back to the peace
22:59 <@gaba> we dont caracterize to be violent
23:00 <@gaba> we think that when ulises ruiz leave then the peace will come back
23:04  * SadeClown is providing a stream from his server: http://nwoserver.myftp.org:8000/listen.pls
23:55 < psuedo> Radio universididad signal is beeing sabotaged, there is plenty of interference
23:56 < psuedo> radio universidad is trying to redirect their signat to another radio station, Radio gelatao
23:57 < pseudo> we are now going to send the list of comrade on jails
23:57 < pseudo> 5 peorsons on jail
23:58 < pseudo> 17 more persons on another jail,
23:59 < pseudo> (Radio universidad may go out of air soon)
23:59 < pseudo> were a going to list the persons who will be realeased ...
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--- Day changed Sat Nov 04 2006
00:00 < pseudo> 20 peersons are a the jail of miahuatlan, and are going to be released
00:00 < pseudo> 2 more persons will be released from another jail
00:01 < pseudo> We make a call to all persons, neighbors to jion our struggle
00:02 < pseudo> Priistas are amazed because we are one step forward
00:02 < pseudo> The interference is being caused by an engineer of the SCT, (secretaria de comunicaciones y transportes)
00:03 < pseudo> One USB memory device is missing, the brand of the device is LG, please if you find it bring it to radio universidad
00:03 < pseudo> (Music)
00:11 < pseudo> we ask that given the interference, you move your antenna, go outside and try to tune the radio better
00:12 < pseudo> if we experience bigger interference, we may have to communicate more directrly, you may come to the university
00:13 < pseudo> in case of an attack fron the PFP, the alram signal will be making noise, by churchs jingles, horns, fireworks
00:13 < pseudo> we must stay alert...
00:14 < pseudo> If PFP tries to enter our university, we ask you to come and help us
00:15 < pseudo> its amazing the amoutn of persons that where arrested on this brutal police operation
00:15 < pseudo> please call us to report any missing persons
00:16 < pseudo> The PFP attacked by words a 15 year old girl who did nothing but to walk around
00:16 < pseudo> They are trying to frigteen us
00:16 < pseudo> they threaten us
00:17 < pseudo> The are defending thieir privileges of power and money, the are capalbe of selling their souls and killing anyone who opeses them
00:18 < pseudo> we have no money, we have no weapons, all we have is our brains, and knowing that we are right
00:18 < pseudo> we are not after any personal beneffit
00:19 < pseudo> you can help os with your precense at the barricades at the univeristy too
00:19 < pseudo> but you can aslo suppurt us with money, with supplies
00:19 < pseudo> our struggle is for a piece of food
00:20 < pseudo> our people has nothing to loose
00:20 < pseudo> the goverment is not interested in our situation
00:21 < pseudo> UROs servants, without money, are making the dirty job
00:21 < pseudo> we have to stay united
00:21 < pseudo> rich people is always fighting to stay in the power
00:22 < pseudo> lets react...
00:22 < pseudo> we have no time to think about what is good and what is wrong, the need makes us act
00:22 < pseudo> (The signal has been lost)
00:24 < NorthStar> :S
00:37 < pseudo> ( radio universidad seems to be back)
00:37 < pseudo> (please stand by)
00:38 < pseudo> (some music playing)
00:52 < pseudo> (Radio universidad is back on air) (They are now reading a letter)
00:54 < pseudo> Radio mapache is still transmitting
01:32 < NorthStar> only music on radio appo...and it doesn't sound like an AM transmition anymore
01:41  * luna THE FASCIST STATE OF ORTIZ AND FOX HAVE TAKEN DOWN OUR STATION
01:41  * luna RADIO UNIVERSIDAD IS OFF AIR
01:43 < NorthStar> omg :S
01:44 <@yuri> shit!!!
01:44 <@yuri> how that happened
01:44 <@yuri> ??
01:44 < elaine> estoy escuchando
01:45 < elaine> http://icecast.v2v.cc:8000/appo1.mp3
01:45 <@yuri> ué
01:45 <@yuri> foi ou não?
01:45 <@yuri> elaine, tá funcionando?
01:46 < elaine> um spot agora
01:46 < elaine> mas parou derrente e ficou uma voz no fundo, agora estrou um spot
01:48 <@yuri> luna
01:48 < luna> they are broadcasting 4m internet
01:48 < luna> hi yuri
01:48 <@yuri> what's goin on?
01:48 < luna> but not from the university anymore
01:49 < luna> they wana say to you
01:49 < luna> in the world
01:49 < luna> YOU
01:49 < luna> that 1400 FM
01:49 < luna> has been blocked
01:49 < luna> by the forces of darkness
01:49 < luna> so now are streaming 
01:49 < mexicatl> 1400 AM
01:49 < luna> from asambleapopulardeoaxaca.com
01:49 <@yuri> shit
01:50 < luna> he he
01:50 < luna> AM
01:50 < luna> AM
01:50 < luna> AM
01:50 < luna> and there is an email address
01:50 < luna> radio@
01:50 < mexicatl> it's surprising it lasted so long
01:50 < luna> asambleapopulardeoaxaca.com
01:50 < luna> to that you
01:50 < luna> can get in touch
01:50 < luna> and say hello
01:51 < luna> and send solidarity wishes
01:51 < luna> and now
01:51 < luna> our "song"
01:51 < luna> vencereeeeemos
01:51 < luna> vencereeeeemos
01:51 < luna> the only thing
01:52 < luna> `ppl?
01:52 < luna> `any ideas?
01:53  * luna keep in mind that it might be that oaxaca is going to be attacked now that apporadio is out
01:55 < pseudo> any any ideas for what???? luna
02:19  * luna radio zapote explaining what is happening http://radio.indymedia.org:8000/radiozapote-alta.mp3
02:20 < luna> the signal of appo radio 
02:20 < luna> has been intervened by the secretary
02:20 < luna> of coms and tranports
02:20 < luna> that means
02:20 < luna> the have lowered
02:21 < luna> the signal
02:21 < luna> -
02:21 < luna> anyway they are 
02:21 < luna> saying tht appo radio is off air
02:22 < luna> cuz they screwed with their equippment
02:22 < luna> the state is saying that
02:22 < luna> but it is not true
02:22 < luna> it is the statethat as messed with their signal
02:22 < luna> there is no attack
02:22 < luna> on the building
02:23 < luna> but we have this signal coming from the people of radio university
02:23 < luna> that is broadcasting
02:23 < luna> music
02:23 < luna> but not the ususal voices
02:23 < luna> the situation is calmed
02:23 < luna> tho tense
02:23 < luna> -
02:23 < luna> -
02:23 < luna> the signal 
02:24 < luna> from AM
02:24 < luna> and the stream
02:24 < luna> are sepparated
02:24 < luna> for security reasons
02:25  * luna and so that we can preservere our hearing
02:25 < luna> but the state is attacking the am signal
02:25 < luna> may be with a van near the station
02:26 < luna> of they might be broadcasting over the radio appo frecuency 
02:26 < luna> like a pirate over apporadio
02:26 < luna> or a number of other thing
02:26 < luna> we can
02:26 < luna> call them in university radio
02:26 < luna> and tell them we are listening and are keeing alert
02:27 < luna> and two
02:27 < luna> listen to stream
02:27 < luna> -
02:27 < luna> -
02:27 < luna> we have a constant stream of information from oaxaca
02:27 < luna> `zapote talking
02:27 < luna> and they say
02:27 < luna> that there isnt a violent sotuation in oax
02:27 < luna> the situation is tense
02:27 < luna> but at the mo 
02:28 < luna> "nothing" happens
02:28 < luna> it is true 
02:28 < luna> uni radio
02:28 < luna> is down
02:28 < luna> and it was really important for independent
02:28 < luna> news sources
02:28 < luna> but 
02:28 < luna> there are other ppl
02:28 < luna> getting info out
02:28 < luna> and they know what is happening
02:28 < luna> someone
02:29  * luna uufff
02:29 < luna> was asking wether there was an attack
02:29 < luna> on apporadio
02:29 < luna> or whether the apporadio broadcast
02:29 < luna> was being
02:29 < luna> "subverted"
02:29 < luna> and the message changed
02:29 < luna> but this wasnt real
02:30 < luna> appo radio need a field transmittor
02:30 < NorthStar> # Electromagnetic Field Meter
02:30 < luna> to see how they can get out of this situation
02:30  * luna cheers
02:30  * luna anyone has one?
02:31 < luna> can someone type the last thing they said?
02:31  * luna someone beeped us
02:31 < luna> everyone thinking about
02:32 < luna> going down to oaxaca
02:32 < luna> it is really important that you keep
02:32 < luna> organised
02:32 < luna> so bring a radio reciever
02:32 < luna> and a phone with plenty credit
02:32 < luna> and keep people at home informed about your
02:32 < luna> whereabouts 
02:33 < luna> someone you trust
02:33 < luna> back at home in DF
02:33 < luna> and dont go there "a la loca
02:33 < luna> so its been happening tha ppl have been worrying back at home
02:34 < luna> cuz they wherent hearing from ppl that went to oaxaca
02:34 < luna> -
02:34 < luna> -
02:34 < luna> check kehuelga radio in mexico.indymedia.org
02:34 < luna> and there are others like us
02:34 < luna> trying to pick radioappo
02:34 < luna> and that is zapote's priority too
02:34 < luna> check
02:35 < luna> zapote.radiolibre.org
02:35 < luna> vientos.info/clm
02:36 < luna> http://vientos.info/cml/
02:36 < luna> boom booom 
02:36 < luna> boom booom 
02:36 < luna> boom booom 
02:36 < luna> boom booom 
02:36 < luna> boom booom 
02:36 < luna> boom booom 
02:36 < luna> boom booom 
02:36 < luna> boom booom 
02:36 < luna> boom booom 
02:36 < luna> boom booom 
02:37 < luna> boom booom 
02:37 < luna> boom booom 
02:37 < luna> boom booom 
02:37 < luna> boom booom 
02:37 < luna> boom booom 
02:37  * luna over 4 a bit, if anyone want to be more responsible than myself... please go ahead
02:38 < pseudo> I will cover you luna
02:41 < Prax01D> adrenaline...
02:48  * luna you cover yourself, pseudo-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizontalism
02:49  * luna pseudo
02:49  * luna what stream are you listening to?
17:05 < MM> choppers this morning at cinco señores: http://www.wradio.com.mx/nota.asp?id=352892
17:06 < MM> APPO remains maximum alert because of this
17:07 < luna> we also remain in read alert
17:07 < luna> innit
17:09 < luna> rz	!!!!!ATENCIN!!!!!!!!
17:09 < luna> 	kwadronaut	?
17:09 < luna> 	rz	six busses packed with PFP cops haveleft Parque del Amor, aparently heading for the University
17:09 < luna> 	kwadronaut	:-(
17:12 < MM> source? PFP cops left Parque del Amor?
17:13 < MM> Maybe they leave and ome back *after* the megamarcha
17:15 < MM> Otherwise they have a big problem sunday, very hughe if they would dare to attack today
17:32 < MM> I found your source: http://vientos.info/cml/
17:35  * Topic is 'Oaxaca stream http://radio.indymedia.org:8000/appo.mp3.m3u - APPO is now transmitting again (the stream will switch back to other radios if APPO becomes unavailable) - no talking in here, ONLY radio transcripts | join #indymedia for general conversation, #mexico #oaxaca #nyc for coverage '
19:16 <@stacy> song: "long live the fight, we are millions, they are just a few dogs" :)
19:22 <@stacy> song: "the people rise up to defend their hope"
20:46 < zapATIsta> Here's a secondary archive to go along with iteration.org :
20:46 < zapATIsta> http://flag.blackened.net/ati/radioAPPO-transcripts.txt
21:01 < pseudo> Its all joy at radio universidad after the good news of big support from UNAM, La otra campaña, Convencion Nacional Democratica, etc...
21:20 < guest-en> how come there are reports of PFP movement (this morning?) and radio appo has been saying nothing about it?
21:21 < guest-en> Is the AM signal in Oaxaca the same as the internet signal?
21:22 < NorthStar> guest-en: i'm afraid it isn't :|
21:29 < guest-en> hello
21:30 < guest-en> is AM signal in Oaxaca the same as internet?
--- Log closed Sun Nov 05 00:00:52 2006
--- Log opened Sun Nov 05 00:00:52 2006
00:47 < jazz> one
01:21 < MM> INDYBAY & ITERATION.ORG: PLease start covering IRCchannel #transoaxaca -the action is there
01:22 < MM> PLease note the one involved there!
01:24 < XaViER> #oaxacatrans
01:29 < XaViER> can someone log the channel  #oaxacatrans like this one on www?
01:31 < MM> contact democratic underground; they do the iteration.org list & Indybay relays the last part of the list
01:32 < XaViER> I can't do this now, cos I have to leave, so I hope that someone will log the channel
03:04 < brie> Today hundreds of companeros, from over 35 different organizations
03:05 < brie> we asking that everyone keeps sending their messages
03:06 < brie> hello to everyone that is listening to us from all over the world, and here in the state of Oaxaca
03:06 < brie> (musical break)
03:18 < ttx> :)
03:18 < brie> (sarcastic commerical about gloablization and neoliberalism)
03:21 < brie> (sarcastic commerical about the US and Free Trade - NAFTA, specifically)
03:32 <@stacy> venceremos... yet again
03:44 <@mtopper> hey i'm logging oaxacatrans now
03:44 <@mtopper> www.iteration.org/oaxacatrans.txt
03:44 <@mtopper> i dont know who democratic underground is, i run iteration.org though :)
03:47 < MM> PEFECT: I pass this on! I thought d.u. was making that iteration??!
03:51 < brie> (poem)
04:36 < Coyote^> a song about mole, which is yummie
04:48 < luna> hola Coyote
04:48 < yuri> oi
04:54 < Coyote^> hi luna, hi yuri
05:02 <@mahtin> chat should happen elsewhere, cuz this channel still gets archived
05:06 < yuri> you're mahtin.
05:07 < yuri> *right
13:06 < prm> ha habido tiroteos en las inmediaciones de la universidad
13:06 < prm> hay un herido
16:34 < martis> buenashablo de radio onda rossa de roma 
16:34 < martis> eastamos escuchando radio universidad desde unos dia
16:34 < yuri> hola, martis.
16:34 < mexicatl> buenas martis
16:35 < martis> hasta mandamos la senal en directo en los il 2 nov.
16:35 < martis> el 2
16:35 < mexicatl> que chido martis
16:36 < mexicatl> saludame a manolo si sigue por esas partes
16:36 < martis> y esto fue repetido por dos otras radios comunitarias en naplik y brescia y torino tambien
16:36 < martis> o sea que estabamos con ud
16:37 < martis> :)))))))
16:38 < martis> nos gustarìa seguir la marcha de hoy
16:40 < martis> y nos gustaba comunicarselo
16:40 < martis> que uno se siente mejor...
16:42 < XaViER> no talking in here, ONLY radio transcripts | join #indymedia for general conversation, #mexico #oaxaca #nyc for coverage 
16:43 < XaViER> and #oaxacatrans for translation work
16:44 < martis> ya ;)
16:45 < martis> saludos
17:31 < luna> appo radio reports shot wounded universitay student this morning
17:31 < luna> university
17:33 < MM>  This morning a student from the Technologcal Institute in front of Radio Universidad was shot in the chest. His name is Marcos Manuel Sanchez Martinez. He is still alive and receiving medical care. La Doctora says that the shooters are establishing an early morning pattern of attacks.
17:34 < MM> <MM> Meanw3hile, supporters are on the road toward Oaxaca for the march which is scheduled to convene at 10:00 AM in front of the monument in Colonia Viguera. According to La Jornada about 700 people left Mexico DF to come here. They were stopped by the military roadblock (reten), made to get off the bus, searched, the bus was searched, but then permitted to continue. Last night other busloads were sited  also, coming from Nochitzlan and other main roads.
17:34 < jolly> j #oaxacatrans
17:34 < luna> MM can we feed snipplets to #indymedia?
17:35 < luna> and #mexico
17:35 < MM> <MM> source: La Doctora, translation: Nancy from oaxacastudyactiongroup
17:36 < MM> Luna: dont know how to open channel with you; plse contact, or discus at oaxacatrans?
17:36 <@mtopper> MM: /msg luna message here
18:35 < kev> radio universidad is back:  http://200.53.239.15/radio.m3u
18:52 < skep> <mexicatl > 12:36 This march is one of the most attended marches since the beginning of the movement, with nearly half a million participating. It extends from Vigueras to Canal 9 in Santa Rosa. People from all neighborhoods have come out and joined the march, the people clamoring to reach downtown. The march is more than twelve kilometers long.
18:56 < pseudo> (radio appo seems to be down again)
18:56 < Coyote^> planton is up
18:56 < kev> http://streaming.com.mx:8006/
18:56 < kev> listen there
18:56 < pseudo> (Ty, I will translate now)
19:02 < pseudo> People of oaxaca, we know that even thogh our people has been arrested, we wont quit....
19:02 < pseudo> wWe have a Call.....
19:03 < pseudo> I want to say that TV show(lolita de la vega).....
19:03 < kev> r universidad: http://216.240.136.6:8000/radiouniversidad.mp3.m3u
19:03 < kev> is back!
19:03 < pseudo> this TV show was totally in favor ofUlises Ruiz
19:03 < pseudo> and agianst the people of oaxaca
19:03 < pseudo> they said, that there has been plenty of law violations
19:04 < pseudo> The tv show was manipulated in order to support ulises ruiz
19:05 < pseudo> Lolita de la vega, once charged Roberto madrazo 400,000 pesos for making an interview for him
19:05 < pseudo> This kind of tv shows only makes us more angry....
19:07 < pseudo> I know that people all around mexico wont believe what these tv news program shows
19:08 < pseudo> THe force that comes from our people hearts will succed
19:08 < pseudo> a better future for us is comming
19:09 < pseudo> We now Lolita de la vega (televisa) is the lover of Ulises ruiz brother
19:10 < pseudo> The mega marcha is arriving downtown oaxaca
19:10 < pseudo> Another Call...
19:12 < pseudo> (sorry I couldnt get these call, )
19:12 < pseudo> Another call....
19:12 < pseudo> We are now at the place of the mega marcha
19:12 < pseudo> we are arriving at santo domingo
19:13 < pseudo> the mega marcha is growing, more people is joining us
19:14 < pseudo> They joy and the discipline rule this mega marcha
19:15 < pseudo> Thank you people of oaxaca, we are still on air...
19:15 < pseudo> a revolutionary greeting to all our listeners
19:16 < pseudo> (music)
19:29  * luna can opps change the topic http://216.240.136.6:8000/radiouniversidad.mp3.m3u as it changes! or give opps 2 ppl?
19:33 < MillaRussi> ???
19:33 < pseudo> (sorry I am on a phone call)
19:36  * luna ok,join #apporota 4 translation rota of radio appo. if we have no full rota, we dont have full coverage=consumption is over. discuss #apporota
19:38 < MillaRussi> Where can I have the things you are translating?
19:39 < zapATIsta> http://www.iteration.org/radioappo.txt
19:40 < pseudo> http://flag.blackened.net/ati/radioAPPO-transcripts.txt
19:40 < pseudo> (Im sorry guys, I was on a long distance call)
19:46 < pseudo> we have a call from the mega marcha
19:46 < pseudo> ...
19:47 < pseudo> downtown oaxaca if filled with people
19:47 < pseudo> there is not enough room for all of us
19:47 < pseudo> The PFP has been rounded by us
19:49 < pseudo> There is not enough room for all of us, the zocalo is already packed, and the tail of the mega marcha is far at the tecnoligico
19:50 < pseudo> This mega marcha is to demmand federal govermment to remove Ulises Ruiz, and for us to stay united
19:51 < pseudo> we are trying to calculate how many people are there at the mega marcha
19:52 < pseudo> We demmand the inmediate removal of the PFP and Ulises ruiz
19:53 < pseudo> This marcha has been greater than any other demonstration we ever had
19:54 < pseudo> We have lived for more than 77 years under the power of PRI
19:54 < pseudo> we now still suffer from this PRI power
19:54 < pseudo> There are surely more than 1 millon people at the mega marcha
19:55 < pseudo> For our town, for our children, for our rights, for our parents, for our natural resources....
19:56 < pseudo> no step back
19:56 < pseudo> we have to recover what belongs to us
19:56 < pseudo> (music)
19:57 < Prax01D> Are we having a revolution yet..?
19:58 < Prax01D> sorry wrong channel.
20:08 < mahtin> dj: i am going to go grab some sleep, but please, oaxacans, wake up
20:12 < pseudo> Well, comrades, we are here back at radio universidad
20:13 < pseudo> we are waiting to our comrades to establish communication from the mega marcha
20:13 < pseudo> MArio perez morales is missing
20:14 < pseudo> We are going to read one last time a message regardign we calling people from la sierra
20:15 < pseudo> assambly today at 4 pm at hotel magisterio, ( to all teachers)
20:16 < pseudo> Jose Mario perez, please call home
20:17 < pseudo> The curch is asking ulises to leave....
20:22 < mahtin> caller: please watch out for infiltrators
20:22 < mahtin> i think he said he's att he plaza de santo domingo, which is totally full of people
20:24 < pseudo> They estimate some 1,200,000 people at the mega marcha, its a 4 Km long marcha
20:34 < mahtin> lots of speakers, people from different sectors of society
20:34 < schock> the people of oaxaca open their doors to everyone
20:34 < schock> there's food, water
20:35 < MillaRussi> You are translating or just talking?
20:35 < schock> our valient women are cooking in the community kitchen
20:35 < schock> [translation]
20:35 < mahtin> we are also asking for people to bring prepared food
20:35 < schock> we're calling on everyone to come when the manifa ends, you're welcome
20:36 < schock> there's a medical report on the student who was hurt this morning at the university
20:37 < schock> ruptured pancreas
20:37 < schock> lung
20:37 < schock> need blood donations
20:38 < schock> we need help for the family of this compañero
20:38 < schock> we can't leave them alone
20:38 < schock> for all the families of the fallen
20:38 < schock> panfilo, alejandro, [and others]
20:41 < mahtin> they will attack us from the air, and try to destroy our radio station...
20:41 < mahtin> they are also made of flesh and bone
20:41 < mahtin> we are going to defend the radio...
20:42 < mahtin> our ancestors gave us the will to defend what is ours, what belongs to the people
20:42 < mahtin> we also ask that the community bring more food to feed us and our comp@s
20:42 < mahtin> music
20:43 < mahtin> this is one of the favorite songs in cuba
20:44 < mahtin> about che guevara
20:53 < mahtin> be careful of attempts to provoke you
20:54 < MillaRussi> Rádio: seja cuidadoso com tentativas de te irritar
20:54 < mahtin> reminding people from pueblo that altho uro talks about autonomy/indep that in the senate/house of reps, they are talking about citizenship, but the pfp...? lotso f puebla police are in our state, this violates our sovreignty
20:54 < MillaRussi> sorry!
20:54 < mahtin> we are still demanding that URO get out of our state
20:54 < mahtin> immediately
20:55 < mahtin> they had a chance to clean up but now we see them as traitors (my stream fell or is buffering)
20:56 < mahtin> thank you compas for reporting about the thousands and thousands of people out there in the street
20:56 < mahtin> more and more people are coming, we hope the march will reach all the way to ther adio station (?)
20:56 < mahtin> (station id- we are the people of oaxaca)
20:58 < MillaRussi> Lembrando as pessoas do povo que a URO  fala de autonomia e independencia e que no senado eles estão falando de cidadania, mas e a pfp?? a polícia do povo esta em nosso estado. isso viola nossa 
21:00 < mahtin> this song is dedicated to the students, it started out: teacher, you always told me to pay more attention...well, i promise that when you come back, i will try harder
21:02 < mahtin> sending shout-outs to different groups of people,e specialyl students, who are out there in teh streets, also to women, youth, etc
21:03 < schock> ulises no longer has support from anyone, not even the federal government. we're close to victory
21:04 < schock> short musical break
21:04 < schock> they destroyed radio planton
21:04 < schock> now who will inform us?
21:04 < schock> [it's a PSA]
21:05 < schock> [music]
21:07 < schock> interview from the street
21:09 < schock> [another PSA]
21:10 < schock> [woman's voice: radicals are distributing flyers in my factory!]
21:10 < schock> [man: damn agitators, communists!]
21:10 < schock> [music]
21:12 < schock> in this mass movement we have demonstrated the struggle of the people of every state
21:12 < schock> [this is an older recording]
21:12 < schock> [music]
21:13 < schock> [lyrics: with marches and mobilizations, teachers demonstrate the struggle for liberation]
21:15 < schock> [announces phone numbers at the radio]
21:15 < schock> [did anyone who caught the numbers, please post them]
21:16 < schock> from plaza santo domingo where the march ended
21:16 < schock> the march was more than 1 million 300 thousand people
21:16 < schock> it doesn't matter how many there were
21:16 < schock> there is a call for unity and solidarity
21:16 < schock> all the people of oaxaca in solidarity
21:16 < schock> there were a lot of people 
21:17 < schock> it began at 11am
21:17 < schock> ended at plaza santo domingo
21:17 < schock> this megamarcha had a lot of people who came from outside oaxaca, all over oaxaca
21:17 < schock> we don't want the police, or URO
21:17 < schock> thousands of people came out
21:17 < schock> oaxaca is advancing politically 
21:17 < schock> people who thought we'd be stopped have been proven wrong
21:18 < schock> the federal forces couldn't stop us
21:18 < schock> we're in the fight for unity
21:18 < schock> [my stream keeps cutting]
21:19 < schock> call us and tell us where you can hear our signal 
21:19 < schock> and where you can't
21:19 < schock> it's very important
21:19 < schock> welcome to the different companeros
21:19 < schock> there is a companero wounded
21:19 < schock> 22
21:19 < schock> [22 what?]
21:20 < schock> what kinds of arms they were using
21:20 < schock> there were shots here at the university
21:20 < schock> fortunately there was just the one wounded
21:21 < schock> the state government and all the bureaucrats are responsible
21:21 < schock> today we were shot at in the morning
21:21 < schock> by gunmen
21:21 < schock> please come support us
21:21 < schock> stay alert to this situation
21:21 < schock> this is why we are here, for you
21:22 < schock> we have to come every day, day after day
21:22 < schock> no one has the right to take our lives, our liberty
21:22 < schock> we have the right to act
21:22 < schock> to move freely
21:23 < schock> don't have fear
21:23 < schock> they won't move us
21:23 < schock> we won't take a step back
21:23 < schock> 95111041
21:23 < schock> [is that right?]
21:23 < schock> call us
21:24 < schock> [PSA for the oaxacan revolution]
21:24 < schock> [the radio of truth!]
21:24 < schock> [music]
21:27 < schock> it's no 2 days that we've had interference
21:27 < schock> [my stream just dropped]
21:29 < schock> [i lost the stream, can someone else cover?]
21:33 < Ben> anyone still got the stream?
21:33 < mahtin> tanks, bazookas, etc - even with all that technology, (they can't beat us)
21:33 < mahtin> please discuss in #indymedia
21:36 < mahtin> we have to arrive at some very general agreements, support each other, we didn't really know each other before
21:36 < mahtin> as far as the gov't, provocateurs, etc- they are trying to divide us
21:36 < mahtin> some of us have been disappeared...
21:36 < mahtin> as much as they try to divide us, our movement, but we have to come together once again
21:37 < mahtin> again we demand that URO get out
21:37 < mahtin> (inaud)
21:38 < mahtin> they can't figure out a concrete solution
21:38 < mahtin> we have to remember that they, weather with riots or whatever, they can't solve it and we have to remember that at the end, the people have the final word
21:38 < mahtin> we are going to a musical break
21:44 < schock> there are police dressed in grey
21:44 < schock> there were people provoking people who participated in the march
21:44 < schock> careful at street 5 de mayo
21:44 < schock> that's where there are grey dressed police provoking people
21:45 < schock> people are sick of the bad government
21:45 < schock> 2 november was day of the dead
21:45 < schock> reading the coverage from la Opinion
21:46 < schock> list of detained, dead,
21:46 < schock> the PFP was hit by a rain of stones
21:46 < schock> [this is the Opnion article]
21:46 < schock> the university was bombarded by tear gas
21:46 < schock> you can hear the explosions
21:47 < schock> the fact is that peopel never stopped informing and talking
21:47 < schock> despite the gas
21:47 < schock> another important element is that there's a video that shows
21:47 < schock> [?]
21:47 < schock> the federalas tried to violate the autonomy of the university
21:48 < schock> we have to take advantage of the moment to organize ourselves
21:48 < schock> the organized people who defended the radio
21:48 < mahtin> (we have to rebuild the barricades, etc)
21:48 < schock> even the PRI said they were opposed to the police intervention in the university
21:49 < schock> the national and international solidarity is important
21:49 < schock> both legislative chambers have denounced URO
21:50 < schock> this battle of the 2 november will never be forgotten
21:50 < schock> the people of oaxaca have demonstrated their strength
21:50 < schock> we repelled the riot police
21:50 < schock> it is now clear that the movemet is alive
21:50 < schock> oaxacan people can redefine our triumph
21:51 < schock> the people decide who will govern
21:51 < schock> we can create a new project of the state
21:51 < schock> economic, political, and cultural power 
21:51 < schock> call us at in the radio station
21:51 < schock> [music]
21:52 < schock> [PSA]
21:52  * luna Sunday, November 5, 2006 at 4:02:39 PM CST
21:58 < schock> [music ends]
21:58 < schock> please let us know whether you can hear our signal
21:58 < schock> remember that today in the megamarch
21:58 < schock> starting at 12
21:58 < schock> ended near the zocalo
21:59 < schock> its against the repression
21:59 < schock> against the measures taken by the PFP
21:59 < schock> and by URO
21:59 < schock> this is the poeple of oaxaca on our feet in struggle
21:59 < schock> we're not alone
21:59 < schock> many hearts minds and ears are listening 
21:59 < schock> to what we are doing
21:59 < schock> imagine how many more people at the regional level mobilized
22:00 < schock> the march was just here in this region
22:00 < schock> imagine if all the people who really support us had been able to arrive at the megamarcha
22:00 < schock> we would have had more than 2 million people
22:00 < schock> we know that all oaxaca is united
22:00 < schock> there were young kids, adults, elders
22:00 < schock> we're going to continue resisting until the exit of URO
22:01 < schock> and until the PFP leave
22:01 < schock> the government is trying to divide us
22:01 < schock> and to create confrontation
22:01 < schock> the people of oaxaca are pacific
22:01 < schock> peaceful
22:01 < schock> we call one more time on the bad government of assassins and theives
22:01 < schock> to recognize the megamarch and get out
22:01 < schock> people from all regions of oaxaca cam
22:02 < schock> the renunciation of URO, the exit of the PFP, is what we are going to achieve
22:02 < schock> we thank the marchers
22:02 < schock> collaborate in this information
22:02 < schock> lots of people are helping us with info
22:02 < schock> there are grey dressed police trying to provoke us to respond to aggression
22:02 < schock> but we are peaceful
22:02 < schock> we are marching against this fascist government
22:03 < schock> the federal police are provoking, but we are peaceful
22:03 < schock> our form of struggle is multitudinous, peaceful
22:03 < schock> now we have daily insecurity 
22:03 < schock> based on the so called arrival of the 'security' forces
22:04 < schock> some comment that there are federal police provoking demonstrators
22:04 < schock> if you have a camera or videocamera
22:04 < schock> take images of them, it's important
22:05 < schock> some people can come here to the radio
22:05 < schock> this tuesday at 3pm in the university
22:05 < schock> there will be a meeting of youth and students
22:05 < schock> and others who are part of this movement
22:05 < schock> this is a call to people to participate
22:06 < schock> it's also youth who have put their shoulders to the wheel
22:06 < schock> we know that the means of communication are important
22:06 < schock> we know how important is the role
22:06 < schock> we're fighting for the young people as well
22:07 < schock> those in [preparatoria = high school?]
22:07 < schock> for a better future
22:07 < schock> we know that the federal government wants to privatize the university
22:07 < schock> don't privatize the university
22:08 < schock> fight and struggle so that we get more people in school and so that it gets less expensive
22:09 < schock> tuesday at 3pm in front of the radio is the meeting
22:09 < schock> 7 november, tuesday, 3pm, in front of the radio at the university
22:09 < schock> also the 11th and 12th in the national student encounter we will be there
22:10 < schock> students, and young people who are not students, have proposals too
22:10 < schock> just like the march of today
22:10 < schock> the young people are reflected in the situation
22:10 < schock> we should march to strengthen the movements
22:10 < schock> and to put our own proposals
22:10 < schock> don't let the federal government breakit up by sector
22:11 < schock> we remember what happened in chiapas 
22:11 < schock> they were attacked and repressed
22:11 < schock> [someone get the detail of that?]
22:11 < schock> in the national student encounter we will call for the students to support the movements and have our own proposals
22:12 < schock> also a shout out to the women who have helped with food
22:12 < schock> the 11th and 12th of november
22:12 < schock> the national student congress
22:12 < schock> will be held in the faculty of law
22:13 < schock> 11th and 12th in the auditorium of professor jimenez in the house of teachers oaxaca city
22:13 < schock> in the law school
22:13 < schock> also on tuesday the 7th in front of the radio
22:13 < schock> assembly
22:14 < schock> we look for your presence compañeros
22:14 < schock> now we go to a short musical break
22:14 < schock> [music]
22:16 < brush> [sounds like an ode of the lacandon]
22:17 < proudje> hey
22:20 < schock> good afternoon citizens of oaxaca
22:20 < schock> for those who are listening
22:20 < schock> especially for the mothers of families
22:20 < schock> its important that you go to the hospital of social security
22:21 < schock> to support the mother of the compañero 
22:21 < schock> injured this morning at radio appo
22:21 < schock> he's a student of technology
22:21 < schock> in the morning at the hospital
22:21 < schock> analuisa flores
22:21 < schock> director of the [?]
22:21 < schock> asks that our wounded compañero be taken to a different hospital
22:22 < schock> but first place
22:22 < schock> who is she to ask that our wounded be taken [?]
22:22 < schock> but we want them to be where we can be with him
22:22 < schock> this is suspicioius
22:22 < schock> mothers should be there
22:22 < schock> to support his mother
22:22 < schock> and don't let him be taken away
22:23 < schock> if we have to pay to keep him here, we will pay
22:23 < schock> but will not let our compañero be taken to another hospital
22:23 < schock> mothers, please support this mother
22:23 < schock> please
22:23 < schock> come and support this mother
22:23 < schock> this is the urgent message
22:24 < schock> those who are listening to us, please come help her
22:24 < schock> and students of the tecnologico
22:24 < schock> also come to support this compañero
22:24 < schock> [recording]
22:24 < schock> [PSA: we have to fight against the bad government]
22:26 < schock> [music]
22:29 < luna> 1400
22:29 < luna> am
22:30 < luna> ppl take picture
22:30 < luna> there are police on roof tops in zocao
22:30 < luna> zocalo 
22:30 < luna> throwing ball barings at people
22:31 < luna> we'd also invite ppl in the march
22:31 < luna> all the people that came here from mexico
22:31 < luna> unam, etc
22:31 < luna> to come down here to radio universidad TO EAT
22:31 < luna> because we have money
22:31 < luna> sorry
22:31 < luna> food
22:33 < luna> we want to denounce
22:33 < luna> a praty in tutzla
22:33 < luna> that they are organising to raise funds
22:34 < luna> to help the murderer of brad will
22:34 < luna> we saw them in the footage how they shot him
22:34 < luna> and yet they are trying to help him
22:35 < luna> we ca see from pictures on the net
22:35 < luna> how the police are shooting these balls at people 
22:35 < luna> from the hotels and building , national palace, etc
22:35 < luna> from the roofs
22:35 < luna> if they want to provocke us
22:35 < luna> they have to be carefull
22:36 < luna> cuz the people are going to respond
22:36 < luna> if we are provocked
22:36 < luna> as has happened in the past
22:36 < luna> and we call to people to keep filming
22:36 < luna> the people who are
22:37 < luna> holding hostage oaxaca is the pfp and ULO
22:37 < luna> it is theirs the barbwire
22:37 < luna> and the tanks
22:37 < luna> and who are kidnapping people
22:38 < luna> or searching people;s houses without court orders
22:38 < luna> etc
22:38 < luna> they are abusing people's basic human rights
22:38 < luna> the malandrines del retiro
22:39 < luna> report "all quiet"
22:39 < luna> they are our compas that named their
22:39 < luna> own barricade 
22:39 < luna> los malandrinos del camino
22:39 < luna> -
22:40 < luna> hello
22:40 < luna> id like to thank 
22:40 < luna> peoples support to my family
22:40 < luna> my family has felt the pain during these days
22:40 < luna> thanks to the movement
22:40 < luna> ramiro aragon the biologist
22:41 < luna> my son is now free
22:41 < luna> and he'd like to thank the movement for not 
22:41 < luna> leaving us alone
22:41 < luna> for supporting us
22:41 < luna> and it is important that he goes back to work
22:42 < luna> as a biologist, monitoring changes in ur environment
22:42 < luna> everyone knows that as a biologists
22:42 < luna> he's never hurt a fly
22:42 < luna> and he says thank you all
22:42 < luna> and that he is free and in good health
22:42 < luna> -
22:43 < luna> he couldnt come himself here to give us that message
22:43 < luna> for security reasons
22:43 < luna> but tell him that we will always be with you and yuor family
22:43 < luna> -
22:44 < luna> that was the voice of the people of oaxaca
22:44 < luna> another one of us
22:44 < luna> and we'd like to hear from everyone
22:44 < luna> that has dissapeared of been arrested
22:44 < luna> and is now free to come and talk in the radio
22:44 < luna> and we demand to see and to know where all our people
22:45 < luna> that dissapeared in the hands of the government are
22:45 < luna> -
22:45 < luna> >music<
22:50 < luna> so some mesagges have arrived here
22:51 < luna> some demo calls
22:51 < luna> about priista radio
22:51 < luna> against radiociudadana and for radio universidad
22:51 < luna> -
22:51 < luna> pri ppl 
22:51 < luna> have contracted 20 buses
22:52 < luna> to go to their demo on tuesday
22:52 < luna> see if we can block their way
22:52 < luna> a woman from tijuana
22:52 < luna> sent messages of support to the ppl of oaxaca
22:52 < luna> oaxaca listen tijuana is with your struggle
22:52 < luna> -
22:53 < luna> and we know that these ppl, the PRIistas 
22:53 < luna> are desperate
22:53 < luna> that people are going out on the demos
22:53 < luna> cuz they are being forced
22:53 < luna> -
22:53 < luna> ppl we need your support 
22:53 < luna> again
22:54 < luna> to people in the social security hospital
22:54 < luna> dont move him
22:54 < luna> analuisa flores
22:54 < luna> we hold you responsible 
22:54 < luna> if he is moved to another hospital
22:54 < luna> our compa has the right to be in the socia security
22:54 < luna> hospital
22:54 < luna> he is from the university
22:54 < luna> so do not take him away
22:54 < luna> -
22:55 < luna> we know that once
22:55 < luna> they wanted to take him too to the specialist hospital
22:55 < luna> and then left him there and the specialist never arrived
22:55 < luna> the only ppl with the right to decide he is moved here of there
22:55 < luna> is his family
22:56 < luna> not people in nurse of doctor customes
22:56 < luna> trying to get rid of him
22:56 < luna> -
22:56 < luna> we need to record the cops throwing balbarings from the roofs in zocalo
22:56 < luna> -
22:57 < luna> we ask ppl that went to the megamarch
22:57 < luna> to go down the social security hospital 
22:57 < luna> to protect our compa?ero
22:57 < luna> -
22:58 < luna> id like to call out to the neighbourhood of 5 se?ores
22:58 < luna> to keep alert
22:58 < luna> there are police going around on a white nissan car
22:58 < luna> bothering people and pciking em
22:58 < luna> people support and give cover to eachother
22:58 < luna> -
22:59 < luna> if anyone has seen cars and vans
22:59 < luna> doing this kind of stuff, write down their numberplates
22:59 < luna> and how many people are inside, etc
22:59 < luna> so we can warn our compa?eros around the city
23:00 < luna> this is how the government opperate
23:00 < luna> lets take pictures and video if we have the equipment
23:00 < luna> -
23:00 < luna> jose baritas
23:00 < luna> police director
23:00 < luna> participated in the agression to the student in the university
23:00 < luna> he is a thieves and is corrupt
23:01 < luna> and we have to warn people from this local cop
23:01 < luna> -
23:01 < luna> one of the Pri that shoot
23:01 < luna> today at our students
23:01 < luna> has been identified
23:01 < luna> we lives in santacruz
23:01 < luna> and is calle pedro _
23:01 < luna> called
23:02 < luna> check his house
23:02 < luna> -
23:02 < luna> 25 buses
23:02 < luna> to carry people that they are paying, to the prii demo on tuesday
23:03 < luna> again
23:03 < luna> lets try to stop them
23:03 < luna> -
23:03 < luna> always same thing
23:03 < luna> trying to show that there is business as usual here
23:03 < luna> -
23:03 < luna> in SF tuztla 
23:04 < luna> there that party to raise funds
23:04 < luna> to protect the killer of brad will 
23:04 < luna> from being prosecuted for it
23:04 < luna> this is the murderer of the indymedia journalist
23:04 < luna> and if you know more about this party
23:04 < luna> let us know
23:05 < luna> they keep the money for themselves
23:05 < luna> -analuisa flores, again
23:05 < luna> we hold youresponsible 
23:05 < luna> if you move marcos from the hospital
23:05 < luna> it is nothing to do with you
23:06 < luna> and we know that as a student he has a right to be 
23:06 < luna> treated in that hospital
23:06 < luna> and that he woulddnt be treated properly
23:06 < luna> in the other hospital
23:06 < luna> and if we'd have to pay, even that as students
23:06 < luna> we have a right to be treated there free
23:06 < luna> we'd pay
23:07 < luna> but we know that in the other hospital he wont get the treatment he needs
23:07 < luna> -
23:07 < luna> to remind people
23:07 < luna> that at 7am
23:07 < luna> we were shot at
23:07 < luna> and marcos got hurt
23:07 < luna> is wounded
23:07 < luna> and we say hello to his mother
23:08 < luna> who is in hospital
23:08 < luna> this fascist mafiosos
23:08 < luna> the shooter lives in a primada in santa cruz
23:08 < luna> and, pedro , we know you and we know where you live
23:09 < luna> who is provocking
23:09 < luna> it is like you want to make us react
23:09 < luna> with lead
23:09 < luna> -
23:09 < luna> we hold those in power for supplying with weapons to this bastards
23:09 < luna> who are not brave enought to tell us what they 
23:09 < luna> disagree with
23:10 < luna> to our faces, but have to hide with their weapons
23:10 < luna> >music<
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00:50 < pseudo> We make a call to the SCT to stop putting interference in hour radio frecuency
00:50 < pseudo> ?           pseudo otherwise we will have to act against you
00:50 < pseudo> ?           pseudo We have a call....
00:50 < pseudo> ?           pseudo (Sorry, audio is too bad)
00:52 < pseudo> We have comrades from puebla...
00:52 < pseudo> (once again, sorry, audio is too bad)
00:54 < pseudo> a girl from pueblas university is expresing their support
00:55 < pseudo> the girl is impressed about the real situation in oaxaca, she used to listen to radio universidad, but in real life the movement is much more impressive than in the radio
00:56 < pseudo> we invite people from all over mexico to come and see by your own eyes oaxacas situation....
00:56 < pseudo> Another call...
00:57 < pseudo> All my respect to the youth of oaxaca
00:57 < pseudo> today we laghed at the PFP
00:57 < pseudo> they were hiding behind their shields
00:58 < pseudo> today we showed our power to move people
00:58 < pseudo> çI have heard the courage and angrer from the people of oaxaca
01:00 < pseudo> Its ashaming that still today they are arresting our teachers
01:00 < pseudo> Mr Rueda Pacheco may have nice new cars, plenty of money, but he lacks respect from the people
01:02 < pseudo> I invite all teachers to make a reflexion...
01:03 < pseudo> today we showed how much people we are definding our rights, and we will continue to do it until we die
01:04 < pseudo> Money comrades may seduce us, but el pueblo will always give you a tortilla to eat, we must always have dignity
01:05 < pseudo> We must show Ulises ruiz and vicente fox that we are united...
01:07 < pseudo> Important message: Ulises ruiz has stolen15,000 square meters of land from some people
01:08 < pseudo> Carlos slim, wants to buy this land at a very low price of 4 pesos per meter,
01:09 < pseudo> We need 10 people to donate blod for the guy that was shot today
01:09 < pseudo> (music)
01:16 < pseudo> 5110848 is the phone number if you want to go on air at radio universidad
01:17 < pseudo> We make responsible the federal goverment for puting interference at our signal
01:17 < pseudo> they are violating our autonomy
01:18 < pseudo> we demmand that SCT removes the interference
01:18 < pseudo> otherwise we will take the SCT
01:19 < pseudo> Mr abascal said that they would respect our university autonomy...
01:19 < pseudo> We all know they didnt
01:19 < pseudo> We also had a mirine helicopter flying over the sky of our university, throwing gas
01:20 < pseudo> How come they sent a marine helicopter, if we dont even have sea in oaxaca
01:21 < pseudo> Well, we have comrades from puebla
01:21 < pseudo> Im roxana luna, im a lawyer...
01:21 < pseudo> Today more than ever we must stay united as university students
01:23 < pseudo> Mario Marin, (pueblas governor involved on kids violations) must be punished,
01:23 < pseudo> We cant allow that they continue to make such brutallity acts...
01:23 < pseudo> we have to go back to our homes and tell the people what is really happening in oaxaca
01:24 < pseudo> I cant be possible that comercial media is manipulating the reality in such a terrible way
01:24 < pseudo> We must awake...
01:25 < pseudo> they are killing our comrades
01:25 < pseudo> I leave amazed by the great organization that you have
01:25 < pseudo> Our compromise is to keep informing, and keep our struggle
01:26 < pseudo> And we will fight to take Mario Marin to law
01:26 < pseudo> Congratulations comrades, we have to take care of each other
01:26 < pseudo> We will come back next saturday, we will show Ulises that what he has achieved is to unite us
01:27 < pseudo> We calculate some 2 millon people, we will tomorrow give a more exact number
01:27 < pseudo> We have to educate all people around mexico
01:28 < pseudo> Ulises is robbing camera, but we wont forget about Mario marin
01:28 < pseudo> Mario Marin lend police forces to ulises ruiz
01:29 < pseudo> Brad will, our comrade...
01:29 < pseudo> gave his life for our struggle
01:31 < pseudo> What happens in chiapas, atenco, oaxaca is a show of how bad this political system is
01:31 < pseudo> Education is the base to transform our world
01:33 < pseudo> (music)
01:42 < pseudo> (Im sorry Im experiencing problems with the stream)
04:38 < psuedo> We have a call...
04:38 < psuedo> go ahead comrade...
04:39 < psuedo> good night
04:39 < psuedo> Im a teacher, we have not been paid
04:39 < psuedo> regarding interference....
04:40 < psuedo> I put my radio transmitter upside down, and its working better
04:40 < psuedo> (Radio reciever sorry)
04:40 < psuedo> people have to move their radios for a better tune
04:41 < psuedo> or you may connect your radio to your air antenna
04:41 < psuedo> We must not call traitors to the teachers that are going back to school
04:42 < psuedo> there is a nice publication on the internet...
04:42 < psuedo> on la jornada....
04:42 < psuedo> where they show police forces from mario marin, governor of puebla
04:43 < psuedo> PFP is going to throw us marbles
04:43 < psuedo> whith resorteras....
04:43 < psuedo> be carefull of the provocadores....
04:44 < psuedo> If we see people throwing rocks at the PFP, they may be provocadores
04:44 < psuedo> so the PFP can apply more power, even fire guns
04:44 < psuedo> Its the militaty and marines who are taking care of the zocalo, dressed as PFPs
04:45 < psuedo> a person that I know, who has a brrother in the army told me that...
04:45 < psuedo> there are some military that do care about our situation
04:46 < psuedo> Its not PFP, its military
04:46 < psuedo> THEthe military forces are not our enemy...
04:47 < psuedo> Priistas are our enemys, not all priistas, just the leaders
04:47 < psuedo> wwe refer to senators, congress man
04:47 < psuedo> and not the people that they pay to support them
04:47 < psuedo> Ulises ruiz must be watched better by all cameras....
04:48 < psuedo> we will demand a psychiachrist test...
04:48 < psuedo> in ecuador, there was a crazy governor who was removed
04:49 < psuedo> jail or a psychiatrist hospital to URO
04:49 < psuedo> because he is putting in danger plenty of lives
04:50 < psuedo> some of the military are willing to go back home
04:50 < psuedo> It would be nice if you could put a speaker near the zocalo to inform the military
04:51 < psuedo> to make them understand the situation
04:52 < psuedo> Be aware of the provocadores....
04:52 < psuedo> we are not going to fall on their trap
04:53 < psuedo> we must stay united, and we must respect the descition of the teachers to go back to school
04:54 < psuedo> Teachers going back to school doesnt mean they are traitors
04:54 < psuedo> they can also make great work at the schools
04:55 < psuedo> they may serve as information media, at those pleaces where our radio signal couldnt reach
04:55 < psuedo> tomorrow at 4 pm will take place the assambly at the university
04:56 < psuedo> Its a good idea to record this ugly sound that is interfiering our signal, and then play it at the SCT offices out loud
04:57 < psuedo> We are not negotiatiating with the goverment with our signal interfeared, because they are still violating our right
04:57 < psuedo> the eyes of the world are right now on oaxaca
04:58  * luna try this at home
04:58  * luna LUNA OROZCO ALBERTO
04:58  * luna alunaoro@sct.gob.mx
04:58 < psuedo> we are not going to negotiate if they keep violating our rights, without our political prisioners, our signal beeing sabotaged, and we keep being shot at the university
04:58  * luna 9515236069
04:59  * luna extension ( 8 19 ) 15110
04:59 < psuedo> (Nice luna)
04:59  * luna fax:9515236077
04:59  * luna address:Av. de Las Telecomunicaciones Tlacochahuaya Tlacolula, s/n,
04:59 < luna> CSCT_Oax_Estacion_Rad_Oaxaca,SECCION: Oficinas
04:59 < luna> Oaxaca, Oaxaca
05:00 < psuedo> lets reinforce our barricades....
05:00  * luna if you are reading this,in a transcript log, etc
05:00 < psuedo> they are really pissed of after seeing all the people, over a million, who came to support us
05:00 < psuedo> (Music)
05:01  * luna that are the detail of the guy in charge of the radio monitoring station
05:02  * luna of the secretary of communications and transport, responsable for the jamming of radio appo, the voice of those without a voice
05:02  * luna  http://portal.sct.gob.mx/SctPortal/appmanager/Portal/Sct?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=sct_book_68
05:02  * luna give them hell
05:03  * luna and the guys name really is > LUNA OROZCO ALBERTO < not taking the piss
05:09 < pseudo> Lets stay alert at radio universidad
05:09 < pseudo> if you hear an alert from radio universidad, please notify all people by phone
05:09 < pseudo> we need organization and discipline
05:10 < pseudo> unders the sky there is nothing more beautyfull than freedom, and nothing more powerfull than unity
05:11 < pseudo> you may cut all the flowers, but you cant help the spring
05:11 < pseudo> (music)
14:49 < faradway> Hi
19:10 < Prax01D> Again --lack of a Plan.
19:11 < kev> ya esta radio universidad: http://streaming.com.mx:8006/
21:33 < mahtin> there will be an APPO plenary (meeting) at 4pm in "university city"
21:37 < mahtin> apparently around 5 sen~ores, a young man is robbing people's belongings and saying he is from appo
21:37 < mahtin> we have to keep an eye on the people who are with us, because they could be provocateurs or have motives other than the kind that we have
21:38 < mahtin> there was a lot of other stuff they announced, but i wasn't listening very closely
22:21 < mahtin> maximum alert- the pfp is approaching cinco senores
22:21 < mahtin> (intersection)
22:22 < mahtin> get in touch wtih the colonias and keep your eye on what is happening, we don't want them near university city
22:22 < mahtin> again, people at the barricade at 5 sen~ores please pay attention
22:23 < mahtin> we call upon the high command (pfp) to stop this advance on 5 sen~ores
22:23 < mahtin> (giving out phone numbers_
22:24 < mahtin> we also want to say, to the communication people, that you should stop interfering with the signal of radio universidad
22:24 < mahtin> you are violating the university's autonomy
22:25 < mahtin> we will continue monitoring this red alert over at 5 sen~ores
22:25 < mahtin> the pfp has no reason to be here, they are committing a series of grave actions...
22:25 < mahtin> the pfp doesn't guarantee the governability of oaxaca
22:26 < mahtin> as a dignified people, we will not allow them
22:26 < mahtin> we continue here at the microphones of pfp, and we have a guest)
22:26 < mahtin> (i am missing most of this)
22:27 < mahtin> over 14 men have died at the hands of this government
22:27 < mahtin> they were assassinated, fighting for a just cause
22:28 < mahtin> ...
22:30 < mahtin> we will continue to demand a oaxaca where our human rights are not violated with impunity...
22:31 < mahtin> a lot of these pfp/paramilitaries are from around here, they don't respect women, community values, etc
22:32 < mahtin> for those who die in this struggle, know that it is a valiant death, etc etc
22:32 < luna> theare are moving towards parque del amor
22:32 < luna> not in 5 senyores yet
22:33 < luna> not confirmed yet
22:33 < luna> we are monitoring the situation
22:33 < luna> we have some compas that have gone that way
22:33 < luna> to check the situation
22:33 < luna> wed like to say...
22:33 < luna> >music<
22:40 < luna> we are monitoring the pfp
22:41 < luna> it is confirmed now
22:41 < luna> by the appo security team
22:41 < luna> but they report
22:41 < luna> that they will be basing themselves in the parke del amor
22:41 < luna> so keep calm
22:41 < luna> but stay alert
22:42 < luna> the pfp is now positioned in parke del amor, the airport and zocalo square
22:42 < luna> -
22:42 < luna> we also have reports of provocator
22:42 < luna> s
22:42 < luna> going round oaxaca
22:42 < luna> so check it
22:43  * luna ok, ui have to go
22:43  * luna i have to go
23:42 < TimberWf> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf6H_sxCx3k La victoria del pueblo de Oaxaca el 2 de noviembre
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04:41 < yuri> ahahaha
04:41 < yuri> ops
04:44  * Pestilence rains down on yuri for ahahah'ing
04:45 < yuri> hehe. thanks for paying attention on me :)
13:38 < guest-en> hi
19:30  * sKoLaRi is back() Sai as() Voltei as(17:42:01) [RuLez]
21:07 < shogunx> is this the channel logged here:
21:07 < shogunx> http://www.iteration.org/radioappo.txt
21:10 < shogunx> ack.
21:46  * sKoLaRi Is away(nao to) (Log!ON) Mail(N/A) Uin(N/A) [RuLez]
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00:46  * sKoLaRi`0ff Is away(nao to) (Log!ON) Mail(N/A) Uin(N/A) [RuLez]
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08:03 < luna> Wednesday, November 8, 2006 at 0:13:31 AM CST
08:04 < luna> Announcement of gun shots near the Soriana barricade and there are 6 arrests in the Carrillo Puerto barricade. There is a callout for support and information.
08:05 < luna> correction
08:05 < luna> Wednesday, November 8, 2006 at 0:13:31 AM CST
08:05 < luna> Report of an attack by Ministerial ( Oaxaca State Police - URO's Private Army) Police of Santa Lucia del Camino. they shot live ammunition at people in the Carrillo Puerto barricade, near Cinco Se?ores. There are no injuries. PRIi suporter and Municipal President, Manuel Martinex Feria is held responsible.
08:06 < luna> Wednesday, November 8, 2006 at 0:53:48 AM CST Announcement of gun shots near the Soriana barricade and there are 6 arrests in the Carrillo Puerto barricade. There is a callout for support and information.
09:46  * sKoLaRi`0ff Is away(nao to) (Log!ON) Mail(N/A) Uin(N/A) [RuLez]
10:55  * luna Wednesday, November 8, 2006 at 5:06:21 AM CST
11:03 < luna> before closing down, for the day radio univeridad makes a call out 2 local oaxacans to help the struggle by mirroring the FM signal to internet stream so more people around the world can find out about their struggle. rompamos el silencio.
11:14 < luna> and then they throw a first cry to the silence of a new day, is anyone listening? a cry to struggle to find ways to self-organise, and 4 autonomy by the people and for the people of oaxaca and mexico. " multinational corporations, take our natural resources, exploit us, like in the campesino situation, where cash crops, corporate controlled agribusiness is forcing peasants out of the land bringing in imports and GMO tinned products.
11:14 < luna> "we need to find ways to stop these fascist mechanisms to mash our dreams, the dreams of our indigenous peoples, our poor, put the people of the bottom at the top, and those of the top" ... get rid of them?. hopefully there are still people in the barricades with their radios next to their ears. this is all of our problem they say. the problems are real and objective, they are not phantom problems, flying in the sky there are people in this world and in this stat
11:14 < luna> e suffering, now, there are plenty of us with plenty of skills and capacity to stop this. it is not fair, we can stop a few thieves and murderers at the top, tho they are kidnapping us and beating us up, and we can change this, go to the demo tomorrow, lets be more proactive in these marches, the march leaves at 11 am from here, radio universidad, good night. 
11:15  * luna yeah, HEY anyone out there really still listening?get up, stand up.
11:17 < Prax01D> I'm here.
11:17 < luna> cue "venceremos" song
12:46  * sKoLaRi`0ff Is away(nao to) (Log!ON) Mail(N/A) Uin(N/A) [RuLez]
13:19 <@toya> oii
20:23 < mahtin> today the radio station is taking phone calls
20:25 < mahtin> (i think they said that wounded people are being charged 1000 pesos at the hospital)
20:25 < mahtin> they were denouncing the pfp's march of shame
21:00 < mahtin> they are calling for people to be out at the barricades, because it is a symbolic and (real) form of resistance, as well as cultural and political expression
21:00 < mahtin> update about the disappeared comp@s
21:01 < mahtin> they are trying to keep a list of the names of the disappeared
21:01 < mahtin> 8 people were disappeared early this morning at a barricade
21:01 < mahtin> (inaudible)
21:02 < mahtin> we ask you to tell us how these peopel (or the other 5) were detained, exactly
21:02 < mahtin> we will be here for an hour, taking down pertinent info, working with lawyers, etc
21:03 < mahtin> host: with the pfp here, we don't have guarantees of (safety)
21:03 < mahtin> thank you for your collaboration, in helping to get a list together of the disappeared/incomunicados
21:17 < mahtin> they are listing names and info about when people were last heard from
21:21  * sub is away: into the fourth dimension
21:21  * sub is back (gone 00:00:00)
21:26 < mahtin> we have to pay attention to what is going on around us, with our comrades, and with the trucks that are driving around town
21:27 < mahtin> neighbors, please keep track of where the trucks are and what repression is going on, and call us
21:30 < mahtin> if you don't have the money to call about people who haven't returned home, go to the (human rights commission) table
21:31 < mahtin> today at 6 there is a meeting of the committee of assassinated, detained, disappeared, etc- bring whatever info you have
21:32 < mahtin> some 76 people have been freed up to today
21:33 < mahtin> (host reads a list of the people who were freed)
21:45  * sKoLaRi Is away(nao to) (Log!ON) Mail(N/A) Uin(N/A) [RuLez]
21:48 < mahtin> at 5pm women's plenary in santo domingo- important that all women attend
21:49 < mahtin> appo plenary at 12 in....university
21:49 < mahtin> tomorrow
21:51 < mahtin> 5145298 - human rights commission/lawyers (she read it really fast, but i think that is the number)
21:52 < mahtin> the freedom of expression is linked to freedom to protest, to hold meetings, to move about...
21:53 < mahtin> this citizen's radio...shows what you can accomplish when you get a microphone...
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09:43 <@toya> jebba ?
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03:44 < yuri> the streaming of radio appo is ok?
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17:23 < blitz> someone had a link to radio appo that works
17:23 < blitz> '?
17:24 < luna> not me, sorry
17:24 < luna> try http://www.kehuelga.org:8000/radio.mp3
17:24 < luna> kehuelga, for the moment
17:24 < luna> radio uni is on air in am
17:27 < blitz> ok ;) thx alot
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03:27 < medianoche> radio universidad, interrumpe su programaciòn normal, disculpe las molestias que la revoluciòn oaxaqueña le ocasiiona
03:51 < medianoche> 10:02 hay lesionados en radio universidad heridos, e incluso un muerto, que està siendo llevado a donde ellos estàn siguiendo el caso
03:52 < medianoche> hemos recibido mensajes de algunas personas que nos comentan que en cadena, en multivision y canales de cable, pasaron el dìa de ayer que la policìa, la pfp habìa entrado a las instalaciones del 1400 de am y que ya había una gran cantidad de muertos y heridos
03:52 < medianoche> a través de la cortina de los medios de comunicación están generando una noticia que genere incredibilidad cuando la noticia real se esté dando
03:53 < medianoche> nos preocupa esta situación, les hacemos esto de su conocimiento, por que no estamos exentos, que en cualquier momento pueda accionar la pfp o los paramilitares de ulises ruiz
03:56 < medianoche> "nos preocupa que la procuradurìa este diciendo que haya un muerto que saliò de radio universidad y de que hay heridos" 
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22:54 < faradAW> faradway
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00:23 < alduXX> hola
00:24 < alduXX> radio La blanqueada Fm envia desde Uruguay
00:24 < alduXX> a Radio Appo saludos
00:24 < alduXX> gracias y Chau!!!
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00:27 < Coyote^> <Coyote^> 17:33 the PFP continue firing tear gas directly at the people to cause injuries
00:27 < Coyote^> <Coyote^> 17:33 people are asked to bring water, vinegar and coca-cola  attenuate the effects of tear gas
00:27 < Coyote^> <Coyote^> 17:46 PFP continues firing gases and cannisters at people
00:28 < Coyote^> 17:56 PFP is advancing slowly on the parallel streets to Aldama, the resistance follows very hard
00:29 < Coyote^> long sentence after that i can't follow about gas drifting into barrios
00:29  * luna 7th megamarch minute by minute 25th nobember 2006 oaxaca ciudad rebelde
00:32 < Coyote^> 18:08 reports from eastern districts of the city people are experiencing burning eyes and throats, indicating that PFP gas is drifting, causing potential respiratory problems for children the elderly and ill
00:34 < Coyote^> 18:05 strong confrontations continue in the city center, PFP attacks are strong but the people resist
00:37 < Coyote^> 8:07 people are called to build barricades, to support the University City environs where the PFP is advancing
00:40 < Coyote^> 8:04 confrontations continue in several streets around the zocalo, people report so much gas it is impossible to see or breath
00:41 < Coyote^> 18:13 PFP  surrounding Santo Domingo, compa injured in arm by projectile
00:45 < Coyote^> 18:53night has come, ask for foods. There are several injured, the complete list shortly. Report by Radio University of Oaxaca to the air.
00:46 < Coyote^> 18:54 mobilizations of PFP in el cerro del fortín
00:49 < Coyote^> Oaxaca Libre: 18:52 PFP advances to  cinema club El Pochote, the members of  APPO fall back. people in taxis are firing gas at the protestors as they retreat
00:50 < Coyote^> 18:59 "we saw  approximately 30 compassurrounded by pfp and gassed" reports from Oaxaca via msn
01:01 < Coyote^> 19:08 rumors are circulating that  the preventive federal police will try to enter radio oaxaca university
01:02 < Coyote^> 19:09 many prisoners reported. The count forthcoming,  demanding the presentation alife and in good health
01:04 < Coyote^> 19:14 Radio Universidad de Oaxaca: confrontation reported in  calle Miguel Cabrera near the market 20 de noviembre
01:14 < Coyote^> 19:21 the tear gases that are being fired in the historical center of the city of Oaxaca at this moment are are drifting to all the city of Oaxaca.
01:16 < Coyote^> 19:21 reports that people are advancing to 5 señores.
01:17 < Coyote^> video:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExWFPoEikqI
01:17 < Coyote^> fotos:   http://www.oaxacalibre.org/oax06/main.php?g2_itemId=840
01:19 < Coyote^> 19:29 Report from Santo Domingo: attack of the PFP continues, throwing and shooting tear chemical projectiles.
01:20 < leo> the PFP took over santo domingo
01:20 < leo> the radio is calling for the "colonies" to take to the streets
01:27 < Coyote^> 19:31 PFP has surrounded people and are advancing from the different intersections
01:32 < Coyote^> 19:39 four trucks at  the barricade of 5 señores, leading pfp and ministerial police
01:34 < Coyote^> 19:40 PFP rounding up people in the zocalo, firing weapons and making arrests
01:35 < Coyote^> 19:41 Report by radio university of Oaxaca on the air: there are wounded by tear gas grenades and shootings
01:35 < zapATIsta> this may be old news but I think a bus was rammed into a police line.
01:36 < Coyote^> 19:46 radio university from oaxaca calls the people to the streets  because the demonstrators are surrounded in the center of Oaxaca and the PFP is shooting firearms.
01:38 < Coyote^> 19:47 señor Taurino Ojeda, 45 years of age, also has been injured by a bullet in the left leg
01:38  * luna ppl please can you have conversations on the indymedia channel? this one is meant for coyote translating the minute by minute events! thnka!!
01:40 < Coyote^> 19:48 Report by radio university of oaxaca on the air: security commision of APPO reports that the comrades in South part of Santo Domingo regroup and harass the pfp in the North part 
01:52 < Coyote^> 19:52 radio  requests food, drinks  and vinegar be brought to the sites where people are being attacked. Also support for all positions is requested
01:54 < Coyote^> 19:55  calls to reinforce the confrontation, to rescue the streets. To take vinegar.  red taxis throwing gas at protestors
01:56 < Coyote^> 19:52 medical aid requested at all points
01:59 < Coyote^> 20:08 PFP returned to corner of Alcala and Abasolo, four shots fired
02:04 < Coyote^> 0:23 Radio University of Oaxaca: at this moment a large number of trucks of PFP and ministrial police on Avenida del Ferrocarril
02:08 < Coyote^> 20:17 confrontations continue, PFP using gasses, ministerial police shooting (phone report from Oaxaca)
02:09 < Coyote^> 19:51 barricade gone up near social security building in Oaxaca
02:11 < Coyote^> 20:20 man  with gun shot to leg reported stable, but many other seriously injured, burning cars exploding
02:15 < Coyote^> 20:20 many arrests reported
02:18 < Coyote^> 20:27 8 compañeros taken in PFP continue shooting directly at people, many wounded
02:20 < Coyote^> 20:31 radio asks people to open their doors to people being attacked by cops
02:23 < Coyote^> 20:32  PFP advances on bus station with light tanks. radio calls for people to not disperse
02:24 < Coyote^> 20:35 the churches of the oaxaca center are closed
02:26 < Coyote^> 20:36 people of the world called to Mexican Embassies and Consulates to stop the slaugter
02:28 < Coyote^> 20:37 reports that the Ministry of Foreign Relations burning in Oaxaca
02:29 < Coyote^> 20:39  Radio Universidad calls for people to puncture tires of patrols 
02:37 < Coyote^> 20:46 house searches by PFP reported
02:39 < Coyote^> 20:48 police in plain clothes in "el biche pobre" restaurant
02:43 < Coyote^> 20:54  attacks on the compañeros near the social security building
02:44 < Coyote^> 20:54 In avenue chapultepec (Oaxaca) are burned cars and trucks
02:45 < Coyote^> 20:56 arrests at social security building
02:46 < Coyote^> 20:57 On avenue chapultepec many arrests and beatings (telephone report)
02:47 < Coyote^> 20:58 police in plain clothes attack bus station, tourists and others running for safety
02:53 < Coyote^> 21:03 in the social security hospital, police in white gowns detaining injured
02:56 < Coyote^> 21:05 APPO asks the people to retire
03:00 < gus> from streets?
03:00 < Coyote^> 21:08 Department of Interior warns APPO that any violent resistance will be met with the Army, warning send via Catholic Church
03:01 < Coyote^> 21:10 Radio University calls to fall back to the University
03:09 < Coyote^> 21:18 five PFP trucks leave Channel 9, probably patrolling to kidnap people in the area
03:11 < Coyote^>  21:21 Priistas reorganizándose en la fuente de las siete regiones
03:11 < Coyote^> <medianoche> 21:21 En la colonia _______ vienen levantando de manera indiscriminada a todos los ciudadanos
03:11 < Coyote^> eeks
03:12 < MillaRussi> english x_x
03:12 < Coyote^> 21:21 PRI members reorganizing in foutain of las siete regiones
03:15 < Coyote^> 21:24 people in Neza city call demonstration of protest for tommorow
03:15 < Coyote^> Peoples of the world called to action tommorow
03:16 < MillaRussi> what?
03:20 < pseudo_> Im going to translate....
03:21 < pseudo_> isnt this a war act mr abascal????
03:21 < pseudo_> where is the priest of oaxaca, he must be happy now
03:22 < pseudo_> please stay united
03:22 < pseudo_> avoid isolated groups
03:22 < MillaRussi> is this the translation?!
03:22 < pseudo_> and knock on peoples doors
03:23 < pseudo_> to search for protection
03:23 < pseudo_> (yes this is the translation milla)
03:23 < MillaRussi> tnx
03:23 < pseudo_> to our comrades downtown... retrieve, go to the churches, to homes
03:24 < pseudo_> we have been informed that the army is on its way
03:24 < pseudo_> 6 trucks from the pfp are going to 5 señores
03:24 < pseudo_> if you cant stand the barricade, retrieve to radio universidad
03:24 < pseudo_> A call....
03:25 < pseudo_> radio universidad is the safest place to be now... eventohgh the army may enter our university
03:26 < pseudo_> you may not be able to reach radio universidad, please try to hide inside the houses and churches
03:26 < pseudo_> the army is comming
03:26 < pseudo_> please find a place to hide
03:26 < pseudo_> we dont want any more tourtured, killed, arrested comrades
03:26 < pseudo_> we have not been defeated, its a tactical retrieve
03:27 < pseudo_> please hide our comrades on your homes, show solidarity
03:27 < pseudo_> if they find our comrades outside on the streets they are going to have a very bad time
03:27 < pseudo_> (a poem)
03:28 < pseudo_> (music)
03:33 < pseudo_> we ask people to call secretaria de governacion 015550933400
03:33 < pseudo_> to inform them about the violations agains the people of oaxaca
03:34 < pseudo_> please ve carefull because pfp is entering private homes
03:34 < pseudo_> we ask red cross to help in the zocalo area
03:35 < pseudo_> we have information that there are PFPs dressed as doctors on the hospital
03:36 < pseudo_> people all over oaxaca, if you have a missing family member, please inform it to radio universidad
03:36 < pseudo_> people is beeing beated in the zocalo
03:36 < pseudo_> my head has now a price...
03:36 < pseudo_> they have ofered money for my head, how cowards
03:37 < pseudo_> (Sorry about the cut translation, im experiencing problems with my stream)
03:38 < pseudo_> (music)
03:38 < Coyote^>  21:36 people who came from District Federal asked to come to University City
03:43 < pseudo_> salomon diaz, call your sisters house
03:43 < pseudo_> pedro ignacio cervantes, call home
03:44 < pseudo_> we have been informed, that one of the arrested comrades is mario aquino silva
03:45 < pseudo_> 9330 police patrol has arrested and beated comrades
03:45 < pseudo_> a group of comrades has been rounded near downtown
03:45 < pseudo_> they wont let them out
03:45 < pseudo_> near pochote
03:46 < pseudo_> julio morales call home
03:47 < pseudo_> felipe calderon well done...
03:47 < pseudo_> you are not still president and you have already showed your rage against us
03:47 < luna> pseudo
03:47 < pseudo_> thats your peace, the peace you always talk about
03:48 < pseudo_> we are not talking the same lenguage....
03:48 < pseudo_> this is not peace
03:48 < pseudo_> thats the way it is
03:48 < pseudo_> people from oaxaca please inform us if you have missing persons
03:49 < pseudo_> people from APPO consejo, please stay in contact with radio universidad
03:50 < pseudo_> im amazed about the braveness of our people from oaxaca
03:51 < pseudo_> Congratulations to PFP for they braveness that they showed when attaqued our women, our children
03:51 < pseudo_> attacking our unarmed people
03:51 < luna> pseudo_look at the private message
03:52 < pseudo_> I wish you were as brave as you where today to go against armed people
03:52 < pseudo_> to go against narcos
03:52 < pseudo_> you should be fighting crime
03:52 < pseudo_> but you do nothing....
03:53 < pseudo_> somehow, rebels like us are much more dangerous than organized crime
04:09 < MillaRussi> ?!
04:12 < Coyote^> just music at the moment, milla
04:12 < Coyote^>  Topic is 'no talking in here, ONLY radio transcripts 
04:12 < MillaRussi> tnx ;)
04:22 < Coyote^> 22:09 shooting that lasted two minutes by the medicine faculty, firing came from light trucks. Shouts were heard in the colony
04:24 < Coyote^> 22:38 Radio University of Oaxaca reports 8 full trucks of the military who left 28th military zone on course to the socle of the city of oaxaca
04:26 < Coyote^> 22:36 In the fountain of seven regions the ministerial police regroups, in bunker, cascade, attacking  people they see in the street and shots in the reform (source: via msn from oax
04:29 < Coyote^> 22:40 another gunshot injury reported by radio universidad
04:34 < Coyote^> 22:41 report of the commission of press of the APPO according to the resolve of the council of APPO to make the SEventh Megamarch a peaceful wall, we now ask all organizations of human rights to put there eyes in Oaxaca
04:36 < Coyote^> 22:43 "we make a call to the organisms, to the national and international organizations, to make mobilizations in the consulates of Mexico in the world, to condemn this action of the federal government in  support of the government of Ulises Ruiz Ortiz"
04:36 < leo> 3 deaths reported at the school of medicine
04:38 < Coyote^> 22:44 We consider it very important to have a concentration in the university city and  see there that next activities we can undertake in the coming days: construction of barricades, to show with the dignity of the town oaxaqueño that we are not going to allow to more aggressions against the oaxaqueño people
04:41 < Coyote^> 22:51 sixty comrades being held in zocalo being lead  towards Tlacolula
04:44 < Coyote^> 22:53 PFP makign arrests in homes
04:49 < Coyote^> 22:54 Humberto de la Peña  independent lawyer of the D.F., denounces  on radio university of Oaxaca the halting of three young people who are being tortured
04:50 < Coyote^> 22:58: eight armed police enter hospital after shootings in front of the medical facility, forced out by medical personel
04:52 < Coyote^> 23:01 trucks with heavily armed civilians patrol the entire city
04:55 < Coyote^> 23:03, reports that workers of the department of health arrested and taken away in city busses
04:57 < Coyote^> 23:08 many comrades missing
05:00 < Coyote^> 22:46 radio universidad confirms the death of three at the medical facility
05:07 < Coyote^> 23:16 Amapolas 1429 is where three people are being tortured who were taken yesterday
06:01 < Coyote^> 00:08 testimony of the medicine faculty: "We went to see, 3 boys went towards the medicine door on the sidewalk"   3 light trucks of police stopped "the people who went towards them began to run"
06:09 < Coyote^>  we we put to the entrance of urgencies "the only thing that we reached to listen was an interval of 2 minutes of shots, of shots" there was a boy thrown in the door "nobody went see if  the police remained there in the source of the seven regions" were reviewing the people who happened that way
06:12 < Coyote^> "the comrade was assassinated? -"he was unconcious and nobody wanted to go to see with the police  there
06:26 < Coyote^> list of the disappeared:
06:26 < Coyote^>  Humberto VAzquerz Hernandez
06:27 < Coyote^> Miguel y Manuel Cruz Cruz
06:27 < Coyote^> Justino Juárez Martínez
06:27 < Coyote^> David Melchor Cervantes de la facultad de derecho
06:28 < Coyote^> señor procoro pascual
06:28 < Coyote^>  ignacio tablada galindo 
06:29 < Coyote^> lost track
06:29 < Coyote^>  Javier Sosa Martínez desaparecido, se le vió por última vez a las 8:30 en la colonia herrera
06:38 < User48> Hola
06:40 < Coyote^> 00:50 In the Ejido Guadalupe Victoria there is a large truck, the police seem to be taking people there to torture them
06:42 < Pablo> I;m listening to the AMLO's Radio
06:43 < Pablo> this chat room is English only?
06:45 < Coyote^> no talking in here, ONLY radio transcripts 
06:45 < Coyote^> por favor
06:45 < Pablo> ok
06:47 < gus> ( Pablo that nick is already registered, change it, pls)
06:49 < Coyote^> lawyers statement on the air: people of the world, please help us. in oaxaca we are alone: there are no human rights, no civil rights, without courts, without justice, 
09:06  * luna is away: ido
14:27  * luna is back (gone 05:20:47)
14:59 < Coyote^> radio is back on
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01:10 < sharpie> is there anyone here to translate?
01:10 < sharpie> if not, how do we contact them
01:10 < sharpie> i left the university approximately 1 hour ago
01:10 < sharpie> and there were trucks and trucks of security forces within blocks of the university
11:35 < [celia]> is the radio working?
16:51 < [celia]> did the radio stopped?
16:56 < Coyote^> http://216.240.136.6:8000/radio1400.mp3
16:56 < Coyote^> works with a good bit of static
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01:23 < [celia]> hola
05:31 < dean> okay I am going to dump translation in english from Radio zapote, http://zapote.radiolivre.org/node/1745 time stamped 17:49 to 19:41, sorry for the delay.
05:31 < dean> 17:49 Forty minutes ago, the ministerial police have detained Alberto Cilia Campo, of Mexico City, brother of David of contralinea (report vía mns from Oaxaca)
05:32 < dean> 17:58 Three compañeros were caught just a little while ago, two blocks from City University, and were transferred to the deputy attorney's office, south zone. There name are Mille Sarah Ilich Weldon (french, naturalized mexican). Omar Rodriguez Camarena and Alberto Silia (nicknamed: Tobe and Bigos of ENAH: Esc Nacional Antropologia e Historia).
05:32 < dean> 18:20 Very strong interference with RU, The web page of the Center of Free Media in DF (Centro de Medios Libres-DF), that has been giving coverage on Oaxaca is no longer functioning today. During the last weeks journalists, independent media and communication media in general have been subject to repression in Oaxaca.
05:32 < dean> 18:39 The rumour continues that the PFP could enter UABJO.
05:33 < dean>  18:39 At Chedraui (super market chain) there is a PFP pickup.
05:33 < dean> 18:40 RU calls on parents of families to be attentive tomorrow to protect schools and prevent the detention of teachers.
05:33 < dean> 18:43 A woman at RU is talking about the risk of taking children to school. La Doctora calls on parents to avoid returning them to classes.
05:34 < dean> 18:45 Today a red Neon (car) shot at medical students at the beginning of their meeting.
05:34 < dean> 18:52 bring paint and oil and balloons to UABJO.
05:34 < dean> 19:05 Continuing to register acts of violence by goons; take photos and video of the faces of these aggresors.
05:35 < dean> 19:07 A teacher from section 22 is speaking on air from RU, and says that in the past assembly they considered themselves a part of APPO and that they will keep on fighting the struggle until the fall of Ulises Ruiz.
05:35 < dean> 19:10 A report by RU at approximately 16:40 that three people were detained on the Salado river bridge, a young women of approximately 21 years old, a young dark skinned man with features of someone from the coast, and another dark skinned man with straight hair, they were picked up in a red Tsuru and are those who are pointing out people participating in the movement.
05:35 < dean> 19:29 One more time it is announced by RU that at the neighbourhood level, small well organized actions are happening, to stop the "cowboys of death" that have been sent by the government.
05:36 < dean> 19:40 RU: 6 trucks of the PFP going towards to Xoco.
05:36 < dean> 19:41 RU: in the (community) Tekio 8 helicopters have arrived.
05:36 < luna> great dean - keep it up, ask if you need help
05:36 < luna> in mexico channel and indymedia
05:36 < dean> that's it, thanks luna
05:36 < luna> or here
05:36 < luna> cool
05:41 <@Alster> is it known why the center of free media website is no longer working?
05:41 <@Alster> int he report abov eit only states _that_ it is no longer working
05:42 <@Alster> also, are they looking for a replacement (if you can find out)
05:42 < dean> all previous posts were from RU.
05:43 <@Alster> RU=?
05:43 <@Alster> UABJO=?
05:43 < LuP> aparently, its an administration matter, as weve got that kind of mesaage before when the server cannot support so many visits r something like, something to do with the broadband allowded..
05:43 < dean> RU=Radio Universidad
05:44 < LuP> cml web page, its beeing searched for get reconnected and fixed, but no answers from our technical guy yet..
05:44 <@Alster> LuP: mirrors would help fixing this. if you need any, i suggest you send email to imc-tech@lists.indymedia.org or ask in channel #tech
05:44 <@Alster> thanks dean 
05:44 < dean> UBJO= Universidad Autonamo Benito Juarez de Oaxaca
05:45 <@Alster> ah :)
05:46 < LuP> we know.. someguys have already get into it.. but its them are tring to getit up, not me..
05:46 < dean> RU= Radio APPO
05:46 <@Alster> LuP: ok cool
05:47 < LuP> thanx anyway!
05:47 <@Alster> dean: ok, thank you
05:51 < dean> Alster, section 22= section 22, state local of the national teacher's Union.
05:51 < dean> PFP= federal police
05:52 <@Alster> i know this part, but it may be good to repeat it for others
05:52 < luna> LuP	mediasnoches.. simoon voy a traduxir de las 2031 lo q falta..
05:52 < luna> got this dean?
05:57 < dean> yup
05:58 < dean> I assume 20:31 follows 19:41...
06:28 <@Alster> <luna> "radio appo" - the university campus is being surrounded by the police in oaxaca
06:28 <@Alster> any news on this?
06:32 < MM> yes, many taxis passing by tonight, instead of PFP patros
06:32 < MM> but now one 3 cars PFP and they stop here
06:33 < MM> halted at he corner and probably moved on. Then another taxi
06:34 < luna> news is that there are PfP troop movements in the streets arround the University
06:34 < MM> other taxi; exceptional
06:34 < LuP> hey.. im posting here the min xmin translation updated till now..
06:34 < LuP> 20:31 University Radio (UR) reports that "Ministerial Police" is moving around near Soriana (departamental store).
06:34 < LuP> 20:32 (RU): 1500 PFP policemen arrived tequio area besides of 8 helicopters that were already there.
06:34 < luna> noone is confirming that this translates into the execution of a concerted operation
06:34 < MM> otra explosion
06:34 < LuP> 20:38 Oaxaca pp, via chat, reports some explotions around Santo Domingo area.
06:34 < LuP> 20:40 RU asks to bring color oil painting and mid size ballons to UABJO (Benito Juarez Autonomous University of Oaxaca).
06:34 < LuP> 20:46 (RU): Rosa Maria Martinez has now appeared and reported to the radio station, let her relatives know she`s fine.
06:35 < LuP> 20:46 RU asks for every food ppl can bring to gather there at the university (UABJO).
06:35 < LuP> 21:21 While Ardelio Vargas Fosado, former chief lieder of Preventive Federal Police, states through mass media that special armed forces have arrived to Oaxaca city to acomplish and to make formal arrests orders against people from the APPO and to take the place of the PFP in regular operations, 149 appo ppl already arrested at the march this weekend have been taken and shipped to the CEFERESO No. 4 Northeast, before known as "Rinconcito",
06:35 < LuP> 21:22 Reports from Veracruz state saying that two from three compañer@s came out free from jai, a french girl and a guy, the 3rd guy police argumented he couldnt go cause his charge was different. more info at: 
06:35 < LuP> http://imc-yucatan.espora.org/news/2006/11/768.php
06:35 < LuP> 21:50 Tomorrow an action in Mexico city will be a one day hunger strike outside the major cathedral in downtown, starts 14 hours there. 
06:35 < LuP> 22:26 UR: calling for Human Rights Organizations all around the world to make brigades in solidarity with Oaxaca to observe, document and state the brutal police harassment over there.
06:35 < LuP> 22:40 Acording to UR reports they got a message saying about by this time there should be a Federal Police attack to the University and the Radio in there, so they keep transmision with a consecutive alert state. There has been a lot of police convoys movement around UABJO during the day
06:37 < luna> there have been these moves for days, they are intensifying, there are calls to defend the university, calls to bang pots and pans in the neighnourhoods as well as light beacons
06:41 < luna> every night is like this,however today we are told again that this is the night. people are tired and wether it is today or not, be prepared it will be one night
06:42 < luna> ther i a tactic of desgaste going on. its 1am in oaxaca everynight is 1am in oaxaca with a call for people to saty up, go down to support, be aware.
06:42 < luna> know what i mean?
07:06 < LuP> ay les va la ultima actualizacion translated to englich lang..
07:07 < LuP> NOVEMBER 28th:
07:07 < LuP> 00:19 Once more UR reports PFP trucks are moving towards the University, right now they are near Soriana store.
07:07 < LuP> 00:25 UR: PFP goups are showing up trough a UABJO´s fence. UR is calling now the ppl to come support and to defend the radio!!
07:07 < LuP> 00:33 UR: Today APPO ppl made a counting of police firearm´s pellets found in the streets after this last massacre on november 25th´s marching. And they found: 223 pellets, 45 automatic gun, 38 automatic gun and 9mms.
07:07 < LuP> Some of this shells were found in some class rooms in the Medicine College at the UABJO.
07:07 < LuP> 00:47 Police guards are moving from Santa Lucia, world wide famous now because of its´ paramilitaries and assasins.
07:07 < LuP> 00:48 UR: This maybe the most critical night since the beggining of this social movement of Oaxaca.
07:09 < LuP> EEEEYY..!  y bueno las dos ultimas lineas no estan en la pag del zapote ehh.. y habria q subirlas.. por ay si alguien ya sta ahi pos dele no?
08:14 < luna> Repression Report in Oaxaca. 27th of november
08:14 < luna> post by krutaay 
08:14 < luna> On the night between the Sunday 26th and the early morning of today monday there was a wave of house searches carried out by the ministerial police in the neighborhood of San Juanito, Santa Cruz Xoxocotlan. These happpend in private houses, mostly of people who participate directly or indirectly in the movement, having been identified and denounced by their PRI supporting neighbours.
08:14 < luna> This afternoon, teachers belonging to the 22nd section (branch) who work in the schools of the Viguera colony where arrested by AFI police and their names broadcasted live on air in the proPRI radio, "Radio Mapache" ( aka radio ciudadana radio murderers ).
08:15 < luna> information provided  by Radio Universidad reported that a driver of oaxaca's public transport company was gunned down and murdered by Ministerial police agents in Antiguo Aeropuerto , in the Las Flores Colony. Minutes later it was reported that in this very same place an Urban Transport bus that was transporting people to the University Campus and the square occupation in Santo Domingo was attacked with live ammunition, there where people wounded and arrested.
08:15 < luna> there are now circulating legally issued house search warrants. once again rumours by the security forces are also circulated abouth the imminent eviction of Radio Universidad.
08:15 < luna> Many people arrested during the repression on Nov 25th are being transported to the San Jose del Rincon, in the State of Nayarit. One of them is Luis Javier Pacheco Vasquez, a  Surgery and Medicine 5th year student in Oaxaca's Autonomous University Benito Juarez , who was first held in the Miahuatlan prison after being arrested in Oaxaca's historic centre. His mother was not allowed in to visit him and he is now held 1300km away from Oaxaca city and his friends a
08:15 < luna> nd family.
08:15 < luna> At the Press conference held by the University's Medicine Students, they demanded guaranteed security for the students, respect to the Autonomy of the University and an end to police harassment as well as security guarantees to the S.O.S Posts: commenting on this point, the SOS post in IAGO where the Federal Preventive Police did prevent them from leaving the area on Saturday leaving volunteers bearing the CS gas that the PFP threw.
08:15 < luna> Another first aid point located in the faculty of medicine  was attacked at 10 pm. the bullets impacted the walls in classrooms 2 and 3 in the "A" building, as well as other prominent buildings of said faculty. moreover the wounded or dead of this event are missing and the SOS point that was in the Siete Principes Church was also attacked by paramilitary groups.
08:15 < luna> During the time when Mrs Gabriela Vasquez Martell, the mother of Luis Javier Pacheco, one of the students arrested,  was giving her testimony, a gun shot was heard and the students got out to try to rescue their compa?eros. primary school pupils were witness to this attack and they told how they saw a red car without registration plates and three people on board. one of them brandished a long weapon and then struggled with one of the students who although was in
08:15 < luna> jured in his hand, could escape, but they pointed their gun to another pupil and they took him away. it is not known where to. In a University Assembly they decided to suspend classes until the next monday 4th of decembre.
10:29  * luna is away: ido
12:12  * luna is back (gone 01:43:27)
12:21 < [celia]> hola
12:31 < Prax01D> czesc
18:31 < eo> alguien puede traducir? por favor? 
18:42 < mahtin> idon't hear anything other than interference....they had been airing some carts or public service announcements...
18:44 < mahtin> that sounded like part of a station id, maybe they are having technical problems
18:44 < mahtin> now there is music playing, the "huelga nacional" (national strike) song
18:54 < mahtin> now they are playing manu chao
18:56 < WW> I don't think this is the same RU. I think pssibly a coup?
18:57 < mahtin> no, please take discussion to another channel
19:01 < mahtin> right now someone is translating int he #oaxaca channel and someone needs to get this person to translate here, i tried and they are ignoring me
19:02 < blitz> ?
19:02 < mahtin> if someone could go to the #oaxaca channel and ask luPe to translate here instead of in #oaxaca
19:03 < luPe> ill be here now
19:03 < luPe> pfp lot conrol over their troops on atenco and severaly times in oax
19:03 < luPe> well the order was to atack?
19:04 < luPe> anyway and so they arrased the whole area
19:04 < luPe> giving terror..
19:04 < luPe> and also the radio pri were calling to burn homes of appo ppl
19:04 < luPe> and so no police corp did anything
19:05 < luPe> and ulises ruiz showed up still like the unity gobernor
19:05 < luPe> and his also the presentatio card for felipe calderon
19:05 < mahtin> (from before: <luPe> oaxaca  .... beggining xxi centry
19:05 < mahtin> <luPe> fox answers the oaxaca pl
19:05 < mahtin> <luPe> sending the prisoners to nayarit
19:05 < mahtin> <luPe> ardelio vargas pfp chief says oaxaca is over
19:05 < mahtin> <luPe> his dogs are on the streets
19:05 < luPe> appo has a lot of resistance
19:05 < mahtin> <luPe> fucking up ilegally ppl and places all over
19:05 < mahtin> <luPe> in the streets young ppl are arrested 
19:05 < mahtin> <luPe> and abused
19:05 < mahtin> <luPe> not allowing their parents to visit nor doctors nor nothing
19:05 < mahtin> <luPe> pri shoters by ulises ruiz
19:05 < mahtin> <luPe> ges all over unpunished
19:05 < mahtin> <luPe> graving ppl and assasins
19:05 < mahtin> <luPe> so this conflict ... yep
19:05 < mahtin> <luPe> sy..
19:05 < mahtin> <luPe> so pfp.. is gona be present
19:05 < mahtin> <luPe> next december 1st 
19:05 < mahtin> <luPe> to stop the caravans to df 
19:05 < mahtin> <luPe> when felipe calderon takes oer mexicos gov..
19:05 < mahtin> <luPe> but appo will keep on
19:05 < mahtin> )
19:05 < luPe> callinr on air now
19:06 < luPe> yep they said that they expected
19:06 < luPe> most important thing now is to be open for the voice of oaxaca ppl
19:06 < luPe> not got the call
19:06 < luPe> so this was a opinion
19:07 < luPe> from luis hernandez navarro
19:07 < luPe> from la jornada news papaer
19:07 < luPe> and now this locutor analyze..
19:07 < luPe> patience all over mexico is over
19:07 < luPe> we are not onto handle that
19:08 < luPe> and they gob thinks that we should be harrassed
19:08 < luPe> and giving us dirty war
19:08 < luPe> the federal gob does not recognize her are roiubles
19:08 < luPe> and they give violence with no justifying
19:08 < luPe> onli for being oaxaqueños
19:09 < luPe> and they keep sending us to nayarit jail saying we are highly dangerous
19:09 < luPe> constant repression in oax is still what hapens
19:09 < luPe> we keep alert
19:10 < luPe> about assasins and paramilitaries
19:10 < luPe> from ulises ruiz
19:10 < luPe> we are watching about next 1st dec
19:10 < luPe> and we should movilize through mexico for breaking the media walls about this shit
19:11 < luPe> we kepp informing about the police detention of young ppl that walks in the street
19:11 < luPe> we call you not to be so much in the street or to take care god
19:11 < luPe> we keep receiving you messages
19:12 < luPe> well be back with the informative newsbreak for today.
19:12 < luPe> any questions now plis..
19:14 < luPe> appo declares on max alert
19:14 < luPe> abd calls to defend radio
19:15 < luPe> this monday police moved on fast and constantly
19:15 < luPe> to arrest appo ppl
19:15 < luPe> serach and rrest orders were done
19:15 < luPe> ths was an operation from pfp police
19:15 < luPe> so we called pacificly to defend radio
19:15 < luPe> we have no choice
19:16 < luPe> they called to get another speaking table to fix the whole truble
19:16 < luPe> yestrdy were arrested aropund 60 ppl
19:16 < luPe> tey were 1st into oaxaca jail
19:16 < luPe> but after they were tyooked some to jail in matamoros
19:17 < luPe> and so police are in 7 vehicles minimun
19:17 < luPe> 24 addicts police said were caught at 5 señore barricade
19:17 < luPe> appo were told by gobernment to set a table for today tuesday to deal about truble
19:18 < luPe> chief lieder pfp.. sai.... urgent meesage
19:18 < luPe> to limmhed
19:18 < luPe> bed 129 is a dessapeared guy porfirio dominguez
19:18 < luPe> police wants to take him
19:18 < luPe> he esi at the civil hospital balmerio something.
19:18 < luPe> bed 129.
19:19 < luPe> human right get there!!
19:19 < luPe> he s ounded
19:19 < luPe> and they are taking him
19:19 < luPe> RADIO calls for LIMHED
19:19 < luPe> MEXICAN LEAGUE FOR HUMAN RIGHT DEFENSE
19:20 < luPe> ..so detentions keep. torture and so..
19:20 < luPe> today the ppl 16 at nayarit and the other goes to tamaulipas..
19:21 < luPe> all gobernment levels are coperating to violate human rights now
19:21 < luPe> and also next days arrested ppl ll be taken to maximun security jail in tamaulipas..
19:22 < luPe> when police took 160 ppl to nayarit no one was allowed to see them and so we dont know
19:22 < luPe> how are they
19:22 < luPe> the rrepressive ultraright hand is taking over now..
19:22 < luPe> supported by fox and then by felipe caderon
19:23 < luPe> and so we are gonna be changing the mexican social economic and so system cause this cannot be happening
19:24 < luPe> supossed last elections showed their democracy is false and only to keep with neoliberal projects in here like all around the globe
19:24 < luPe> hurting the whole nature sources from the world
19:25 < luPe> inforsm arives.. ppolice outside schools have been blocking ppl and young to get into classes and also
19:25 < luPe> occupying some schools
19:25 < luPe> there are many and so we are alert
19:26 < luPe> again callin for LIMHED to go to civil hospital cause police wants to arrest a guy hurted now
19:26 < luPe> we ask 4 info in there to know how is he?
19:26 < luPe> the grafico reporter arrestd esterday was released now..
19:27 < luPe> no more tolerance from bnoth sides
19:27 < luPe> pfp chief lieder.. went through a park called el LLANO..
19:27 < luPe> were pri radio were set
19:27 < luPe> and there he oficialized the order detentions for appo ppl yesterday.
19:28 < luPe> jumping up oer judges authorities and the whole laws in mexico..
19:28 < luPe> he said pfp never wanted to get into the university..
19:28 < luPe> and never wanted to take 5 señores barcades
19:28 < luPe> the pnly still holded by appo ppl
19:29 < luPe> from yestrdy there was planned a marching to recover santo domingo plaza..
19:29 < luPe> but we decided to suspend this for security reasons before repression risk since last days
19:30 < luPe> to avoid more arrested ppl. and so on..
19:30 < luPe> our city is a military based now..
19:30 < luPe> there are 2 trucks from pfp now outside the university
19:31 < luPe> and they keep exercising militry movements all through oaxaca
19:31 < luPe> yestrdy appo called so defense of the university in a pacific way
19:32 < luPe> we have to keep going with our movement.. wich is also supported by many leftyst orgs through our nation
19:32 < luPe> and we have still goiing with about next dec 1st.. against this politic stupid that mexico ppl wont tollerate no more
19:33 < luPe> we have also had many warnings of violence against us
19:33 < luPe> so we keep alert from pfp, paramilitaries and such kinds of agreessions
19:34 < luPe> segob have been working on whom to blame from us about the whole movement..
19:34 < luPe> and thruth is there are also "porros" crash brigades here from ulises ruiz
19:35 < luPe> the ppl that had arrest orders are acused for vandalism and such things ..
19:35 < luPe> the appo will give a answer to this but pacificly..
19:36 < luPe> not allowing masked ppl from now on also to prevent infiltrated ppl
19:36 < luPe> inside our movement
19:39 < luPe> appo say they didnot burned some cars on sats night in public ..
19:39 < luPe> some teacher is wner from a store and she alouded some car burnings that day around er place to let provocations and so onto appo ppl
19:40 < luPe> also some other comercial places owners gave autorization to pfp to get into their roofs that day 
19:41 < luPe> in santa lucia del camino..
19:41 < luPe> and some other school principal same thing but in a school..
19:42 < luPe> so they are acting within civil ppl against the movement
19:42 < luPe> music now
19:52 < luPe> today starts the forum of indigenous ppl here in oax
19:53 < luPe> and police installed all through the higways and so to stop and bloke the assistans
19:54 < luPe> we repeat that oficial security sites are saying the last detentions have been from ppl of highly risk kind
19:54 < luPe> 27 men and 34 women
19:55 < luPe> ministry of public said monday that also AFI police corp were there to get over with this arrest orders..
19:56 < luPe> so de charges are motin damages in public shit.. and they were arrsted las 24 and 25 only ..
19:56 < luPe> so gob says that appo ppl arrested were toked to anothr jail cause of high danger ppl
19:57 < luPe> next days detentions wiill keep on to chse these criminals
19:58 < luPe> in nayarit the PRD party asked at jail to get in to get to speak with a couple of PRD members from ax and they were not allowded..
19:58 < luPe> and also a radio massive chain radio formula journalist even got pointed with a machinegun by police oofficers
19:58 < luPe> just for trying to get in
19:58 < luPe> at that jail
19:59 < luPe> and so the whole ppl caught were taken from airpot in nayarit to ths jail.. and were hided by police convoys
20:00 < luPe> so this last other detentions that occurs from now on will be taken to that jail in nayarit state
20:01 < luPe> and we want to know if those ppl of ours are ok only.. and know how is the legal process proceed
20:01 < luPe> a women that called asks only to get in there only to know if her daughteris ok
20:02 < luPe> a man couldnt hide his sadness to know about his brother
20:03 < luPe> another man inside oax jail said: they re tooked beaten already and head down watched by military en
20:05 < luPe> a guy from medicine college was caught and he was dissapeared.. until now no one knows where is he.. naarit jail, jalisco jail, tamaulipas jail..?
20:06 < luPe> there are many irregularities in the detention process and that is clear to us..
20:07 < luPe> they have been beaten, tortured and so on.. and police and gob dont want to show em up cause they might be pretty harmed
20:08 < luPe> some indymedia guy was reported to b caught... (this was false, guy was from a cultural collective at southeast mexico.)
20:08 < luPe> "why ulises makes this, why gob fed allows this to hapens"
20:09 < luPe> this are the questions in oax now.. 
20:09 < luPe> this capitalist model is showing to be the commander behind alll this.
20:23 < luPe> (dudes, need to go out for couple mins..  llbback)
20:28 < luPe> (back now)
20:28 < luPe> lucio cabañas barrienntos.. manifest
20:29 < luPe> invitation next sat 2 dic death anniversarry of lucio cabañas barrientos
20:29 < luPe> teacher from guerero fron atoyac social fighter
20:30 < luPe> we Univ Rdaio are gonna make presence in here about that celebration
20:30 < luPe> -caling entering_
20:30 < luPe> u r on air.. technical stuf..
20:31 < luPe> call us and well trannsmit it!
20:32 < luPe> its 32nd felt in combat luciocabañas death aniversary..
20:33 < luPe> (they r announcing artists that will show up at that celebration.)
20:34 < luPe> (okey.... pals, i gotta go out the screen.. sorry, SOMEONE ELSE WANTS TO KEEP TRANSLATING RADIO HERE??? CYA)
21:55 < sharpie> any further status on the university and cinco senores area?  Is it safe to travel?
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05:25 < luna> .
05:25 < luna> min by min golpe a golpe 27th nov
05:25 < luna> .
05:25 < luna> 13:30 It is reported in the official report of the Secretary of Public Security that 141 prisoners have been moved to the federal prisons in San Jose del Rincon in Nayarit, La Palma, Matamoros and Islas Marias
05:26 < luna> .
05:26 < luna> 13:35 A bus from EDUCA was shot at on its way to the march, leaving many hurt and detained near the old airport
05:26 < luna> .
05:26 < luna> 13:45 According to sources on Radio Universidad, it is confirmed that the ministerial police assassinated the driver of a city bus in the colonia antigua aeropuerto. Furthermore in various colonias PRIistas are pointing out houses that pertain to the movement to elements of AFI and the
05:26 < luna> .
05:26 < luna> 14:15 Radio Universidad is reporting that a red Tsuro, model 68, is picking up people off the streets of Oaxaca
05:26 < luna> .
05:26 < luna> 14:16 Radio Universidad reports that it is confirmed that 107 men and 64 were taken to the San Jose del Rincon prison at the request of the Secretary of Citizens Protection, Lino Celaya Lur?a
05:26 < luna> .
05:27 < luna> 14:24 Members of the College of Social Sciences of UABJO read a communiqu? over Radio Universidad, denouncing the detentions of compa?eros from the University, and demand the presentation of Alonzo Palomares, held prisoner in Tlacolula until yesterday when he was transferred to another jail, they denounce that he was held without communication with family or lawyers, and that neither medics, lawyers or members of human rights organizations were allowed to see h
05:27 < luna> im, making them think that he was tortured, and they demand freedom for prisoners and the presentation of all of those who have been disappeared.
05:27 < luna> .
05:27 < luna> 14:26 It is announced over Radio Universidad that compa?ero Manuel Samuel Centeno Gonzales was last seen yesterday morning, and they ask that he contact his family or Radio Universidad, if anybody has any information about him, please communicate it.
05:27 < luna> .
05:27 < luna> 14:42 In Notimex, it is reported that the PFP has taken control of all police forces in Oaxaca and that groups of elite forces are preparing to carry out the arrest warrants, which supposedly number over 200.
05:27 < luna> .
05:27 < luna> 14:44 It is reported that a cultural journalist from Oaxaca and the Luna Zeta collective, Juan de Dios G?mez Ram?rez, detained on saturday, was also moved to Tlacolula.
05:27 < luna> .
05:27 < luna> 15:22 A red Neon has just detained somebody near the University, it is asked that the neighbors of colonia reforma indentify its destination, the vehicle is driving by somebody with a yellow shirt, and the chavo was detained in the facultad de medecina, shots were fired there at the moment that there was going to be a press conference
05:27 < luna> .
05:27 < luna> 15:27 Radio Universidad is calling for small peaceful actions to be organized, making flyers and posters demanding the departure of URO to put up and hand out, carefully
05:27 < luna> .
05:27 < luna> 15:34 En hornos street in Santa Luc?a, they are detaining and beating various compa?eros, they ask that it be confirmed whether compa?eros from the University are taking the facultad de medecina after the shooting.
05:27 < luna> .
05:27 < luna> 15:40 The shooting in the facultad de medecina was with high powered firearms, nobody is wounded, just the one compa?ero that was detained who is from the facultad, it is being confirmed that the facultad de medecina is being closed and support is requested to shut down Ciudad Universitaria
05:27 < luna> .
05:28 < luna> 15:42 Radio Universidad is calling for a national strike and demonstrations repudiating the taking of power of Felipe Calder?n (FECAL)
05:28 < luna> .
05:28 < luna> 15:58 On Radio Universidad, they ask that people have photo and video cameras ready in order to register attacks by these assassins
05:28 < luna> .
05:28 < luna> 15:58 15 trucks are heading towards Rosario from R?o salado, escorted by a black car of politicians, and they are detaining various people at the R?o Salado bridge, RU is calling for people to be alert. Four more detentions are reported near CU
05:28 < luna> .
05:28 < luna> 16:05 Radio Universidad is reporting that the Unidad Mixta de Atenci?n al Narcotr?fico in Oaxaca City is detaining and torturing people.
05:28 < luna> .
05:28 < luna> 16:07 It is reported that 3 cars, red Nissans and a white pickup and another that was unable to be distinguished in Amapolis street.
05:28 < luna> .
05:28 < luna> 16:09 Radio Universidad: Two helicopters are circling over Santa Mar?a Coyotepec; also in pickups near Rosario, assassins have various young people trapped in that area.
05:28 < luna> .
05:28 < luna> 16:13 Radio Universidad: The committe of family and friends of those imprisoned will give a press conference today at 16:30, the location of the conference will not be given, since early today assassins fired at the facultad de medicina and detained one compa?ero where there was going to be a press conference.
05:28 < luna> .
05:28 < luna> 16:18 Radio Universidad: Radio Universidad remains under the imminant threat of being taken, in the face of the cover that the Federal Preventative Police are giving to the assassins and paramilitaries so that they can attack the people of Oaxaca
05:28 < luna> .
05:28 < luna> 16:22 Radio Universidad: asking that the young man Samuel Centeno Rosales report back to his house.
05:29 < luna> .
05:29 < luna> 16:29 La Doctora, the presenter at Radio Universidad: peoople are calling cell phones using the voz of la Doctora Berta, in these calls the Doctora is supposedly yelling 'help' and calling for people to come to the radio.
05:29 < luna> .
05:29 < luna> 16:33 Radio Universidad: to once again clarify, la Doctora is NOT personally making these calls for people to come to RU to guard it
05:29 < luna> .
05:29 < luna> 16:38 It is reiterated in Radio Universidad: diesel, cohetones, pipes, cigarettes, buckets and tubs, and if the station goes off the air, it is proposed that a phone network be set up
05:29 < luna> .
05:29 < luna> 16:39 Radio Universidad: Two PFP helicopters are flying over ciudad universitaria and they are calling that people remain attentive to the situation.
05:29 < luna> .
05:29 < luna> 16:40 Radio Universidad: calling for donations of cohetones, gasoline, diesel, a water pipe and is inviting everyone, the neighbors of CU to go to ciudad universitaria to protect the radio station
05:29 < luna> .
05:29 < luna> 16:42 Fredy Carmona is the name of 'el gato', the compa?ero that was detained by 4 armed men in a red car outside of the facultad de medecina
05:29 < luna> .
05:29 < luna> 16:42 Radio Universidad: In CEBETIS, Santa Luc?a, a white Nissan pickup was seen leaving with four detainees
05:29 < luna> .
05:29 < luna> 16:59 A woman denounced on the air on Radio Universidad that while walking towards the facultad de derecho she was stopped by police, who asked her name and what she was doing, further along she saw the violent detention of two compa?eros and further along she found another compa?ero with a bullet wound in the leg.
05:29 < luna> .
05:29 < luna> 17:05 In an interview, a chief of the PFP, Ardelio Vargas Fosado rejected claims that the federal forces were going to invade the university campus.
05:29 < luna> .
05:30 < luna> 17:35 Radio Universidad: the APPO Council is currently in session, and in a few hours there will be some resolutions.
05:30 < luna> .
05:30 < luna> 17:49 Forty minutes ago, the ministerial police have detained Alberto Cilia Campo, of Mexico City, brother of David of contralinea (report v?a mns from Oaxaca)
05:30 < luna> .
05:30 < luna> 17:58 Three compa?eros were caught just a little while ago, two blocks from City University, and were transferred to the deputy attorney's office, south zone. There name are Mille Sarah Ilich Weldon (french, naturalized mexican). Omar Rodriguez Camarena and Alberto Silia (nicknamed: Tobe and Bigos of ENAH: Esc Nacional Antropologia e Historia).
05:30 < luna> .
05:30 < luna> 18:20 Very strong interference with RU, The web page of the Center of Free Media in DF (Centro de Medios Libres-DF), that has been giving coverage on Oaxaca is no longer functioning today. During the last weeks journalists, independent media and communication media in general have been subject to repression in Oaxaca.
05:30 < luna> .
05:30 < luna> 18:39 The rumour continues that the PFP could enter UABJO.
05:30 < luna> .
05:30 < luna> 18:39 At Chedraui (super market chain) there is a PFP pickup.
05:30 < luna> .
05:30 < luna> 18:40 RU calls on parents of families to be attentive tomorrow to protect schools and prevent the detention of teachers.
05:30 < luna> .
05:30 < luna> 18:43 A woman at RU is talking about the risk of taking children to school. La Doctora calls on parents to avoid returning them to classes.
05:30 < luna> .
05:30 < luna> 18:45 Today a red Neon (car) shot at medical students at the beginning of their meeting.
05:30 < luna> .
05:30 < luna> 18:52 bring paint and oil and balloons to UABJO.
05:30 < luna> .
05:31 < luna> 19:05 Continuing to register acts of violence by goons; take photos and video of the faces of these aggresors.
05:31 < luna> .
05:31 < luna> 19:07 A teacher from section 22 is speaking on air from RU, and says that in the past assembly they considered themselves a part of APPO and that they will keep on fighting the struggle until the fall of Ulises Ruiz.
05:31 < luna> .
05:31 < luna> 19:10 A report by RU at approximately 16:40 that three people were detained on the Salado river bridge, a young women of approximately 21 years old, a young dark skinned man with features of someone from the coast, and another dark skinned man with straight hair, they were picked up in a red Tsuru and are those who are pointing out people participating in the movement.
05:31 < luna> .
05:31 < luna> 19:29 One more time it is announced by RU that at the neighbourhood level, small well organized actions are happening, to stop the "cowboys of death" that have been sent by the government.
05:31 < luna> .
05:31 < luna> 19:40 RU: 6 trucks of the PFP going towards to Xoco.
05:31 < luna> .
05:31 < luna> 19:41 RU: in the (community) Tekio 8 helicopters have arrived.
05:31 < luna> .
05:31 < luna> 20:31 University Radio (UR) reports that "Ministerial Police" is moving around near Soriana (departamental store).
05:31 < luna> .
05:31 < luna> 20:32 (RU): 1500 PFP policemen arrived tequio area besides of 8 helicopters that were already there.
05:31 < luna> .
05:31 < luna> 20:38 Oaxaca pp, via chat, reports some explotions around Santo Domingo area.
05:31 < luna> .
05:31 < luna> 20:40 RU asks to bring color oil painting and mid size ballons to UABJO (Benito Juarez Autonomous University of Oaxaca).
05:31 < luna> .
05:32 < luna> 20:46 (RU): Rosa Maria Martinez has now appeared and reported to the radio station, let her relatives know she`s fine.
05:32 < luna> .
05:32 < luna> 20:46 RU asks for every food ppl can bring to gather there at the university (UABJO).
05:32 < luna> .
05:32 < luna> 21:21 While Ardelio Vargas Fosado, former chief lieder of Preventive Federal Police, states through mass media that special armed forces have arrived to Oaxaca city to acomplish and to make formal arrests orders against people from the APPO and to take the place of the PFP in regular operations, 149 appo ppl already arrested at the march this weekend have been taken and shipped to the CEFERESO No. 4 Northeast, before known as "Rinconcito",
05:32 < luna> .
05:32 < luna> 21:22 Reports from Veracruz state saying that two from three compa?er@s came out free from jai, a french girl and a guy, the 3rd guy police argumented he couldnt go cause his charge was different. more info at: http://imc-yucatan.espora.org/news/2006/11/768.php
05:32 < luna> .
05:32 < luna> 21:50 Tomorrow an action in Mexico city will be a one day hunger strike outside the major cathedral in downtown, starts 14 hours there.
05:32 < luna> .
05:32 < luna> 22:26 UR: calling for Human Rights Organizations all around the world to make brigades in solidarity with Oaxaca to observe, document and state the brutal police harassment over there.
05:32 < luna> .
05:32 < luna> 23:40 Acording to UR reports they got a message saying about by this time there should be a Federal Police attack to the University and the Radio in there, so they keep transmision with a consecutive alert state. There has been a lot of police convoys movement around UABJO during the day
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05:37 < luna> tuesday 28th nov
05:37 < luna> golpe a golpe
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05:38 < luna> golpe a golpe
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05:38 < luna> tuesday 28th nov
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15:51 < Dj-Xtrikz> alguien vivo ' ?
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01:15 < dean2> English dump, transcriptions from radio zapote (16:30 to 18:30)
01:15 < dean2> stand by
01:16 < dean2> ((i))
01:16 < dean2> 28 november 2006
01:16 < dean2> ((i))
01:16 < dean2> .
01:16 < dean2> 16:30 The installations of Radio Universidad (RU) were handed over, because the conditions didnt exist to continue transmitting after the dismantling of the 5 Señores barricade. The radio was handed over to the University Rector. Paramilitaries and all police forces were standing outside UABJO (the University). All the companer@s are all right up till now.
01:16 < dean2> .
01:17 < dean2> 17:55 People at UABJO have closed the University and are preparing for a possible attack.
01:17 < dean2> .
01:17 < dean2> 17:56 In colonia Santa Rosa a roadblock continues and the ministerial police are patrolling the immediate areas of Radio Universidad.
01:17 < dean2> .
01:17 < dean2> 17:58 At the roadblock of colonia Santa Rosa they are stopping everyone and checking their identity against a list of names (as well as making a list). This could confirm that arrest warrants have no names and those detained, their names are filled into the arrest warrant at the time of arrest.
01:17 < dean2> .
01:17 < dean2> 18:09 It is being asked to be attentive for possible detentions. The people of Radio Universidad are leaving the premises.
01:17 < dean2> .
01:17 < dean2> 18:30 Radio universidad has stopped transmitting at night, and will resume broadcasts in the morning (at 9 or 10am).
01:17 < dean2> .
01:17 < dean2> thank you....
01:26 < dean2> the original, http://zapote.radiolivre.org/node/1759
01:26 < dean2> The last, 18:30, I read from channel Mexico
01:28 < sharpie> thanks dean
01:44 < dean2> That translation was for today Novemeber 29, not the 28th. Sorry,
01:44 < sharpie> si
02:56 < luna> please dean2. sharpie chec http://www.indybay.org
03:00 < dean2> check what? the Oax story?
03:06 < luna> radioappotranscript
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17:56 < blitz> is radio appo transmiting?
17:56 < blitz> now, or before, or will
17:56 < blitz> ???
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14:40 < eamr> hi
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00:17 < yuri> people... radio se fuê
00:18 < yuri> nosotros no tenemos la radio appo.
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02:18 < zafa> hola cumpas alguien que edite audios y me pueda ayudar?
02:19 < zafa> Hello  I need help with audio Edition 
02:27 < zafa> he conseguido una grabadora digital de audio pero no se como bajar esos audios a la pc,
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01:06  * eamr wish you a gn8 
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15:55 < eamr> #ungdomshuset
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17:59 < kwadronaut> eamr: /join #channel
18:03 < eamr> i know ,-)
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02:37 < sin^guia> good night everyone
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15:57 < eamr> hi
16:40  * sin^guia this channel is getting logged eamr ;)
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